I will never understand some people

My gosh I'm very pleased we don't have any rules and regs here about what you can have on your home, or how long you can have a decoration up....or what colour your house should be ...
These type of rules aren't county, state or federal laws, they're Homeowners Association rules. If you buy a house in a subdivision that has a Homeowners Association, you agree to join it, pay the monthly membership dues, and abide by it's rules. The idea is to keep the neighborhood uniform and clean. Some have nice perks like lawn service, a "safe home" for your kids or your Amazon deliveries, private security, stuff like that.
 
Most Americans don't live where there are homeowner associations (HOA) along with their rules, regs, restrictions, boards and dues.

When DH & I started looking for a house some friends had just bought in a community with an HOA. It became a nightmare for them in short order. Based on their advice and experience we avoided HOA communities like the plague and have never regretted it.
True, but the numbers are growing. This article says 12% of us do.

Homeowners Associations – The New Local Governments​

https://tlfloridalaw.com/homeowners-associations-the-new-local-governments/
You guys type a lot faster than me.
 
The thing is we don't have any such thing called a sub-division in this country... so I'm not exactly sure what that is tbh...

I do know about HOA rules tho', because in the gated community in Spain we have that there... but not to the extent we'd be fined for keeping up decorations...
Basically it's a neighborhood where all the homes were built by one construction company and they're sold by a corporation, not a person. Some are very large, some only a few blocks.
 
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while HOAs can be overbearing................... it is better then putting effort into your home and have a hoarder live next door spilling into the yard etc. we have one of those move in next door after living the last 6 next to the most meticulous house on the block..

son has some houses around his in neighborhood of upper 700K houses................. that have cars/ campers / junk all around without ways to really encourage home owners to clean up.

Many people here just feel they have the right to put in their opinion on everything ...
my son and spouse bought a house and the yard was severely overgrown.................. and we took the clippers and saw and took down a lot ... trees/ shrubs/ branches etc
the neighbors all began pouring out asking why ? ......... son bought the house so he can change yard .......
I personally think it was because they felt better about yard with the overgrown one next door ,cleaned up..... makes their place look like it needs work.

The overgrown shrubs/ trees etc had become a spider paradise and once taken out his spider issue left too....

At my home we left lights up one year into February and we got all sorts of snide comments even though hubby was recovering from surgery and simply had not been ok to do the take down on ladder and i could not reach.
 
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Here if someone allows their property to become some kind of junk yard, particularly if it's likely to attract vermin .. then the council dept of Environmental Health will step in and give them an allotted time to clear it all up..or they'll face legal action or eventually a possible eviction..

However in some parts of the UK..and Ireland there are some huge housing estates ( that's what we call the 'subdivison' here , I've just discovered thanks to @Murrmurr ), which are very poorly looked after by the majority who live there .. generally no go areas for outsiders.. , and even the councils turn a blind eye to it.. most of those houses and flats in those areas tend to be rented ( public housing ) from the local authority
 
When I lived in Alaska, you would find an old rusty fisherman's trailer with
junk everywhere right next to a huge lovely mansion, beautifully landscaped.
The philosophy there was "your eyesight ends at the fence line".
or
in other words,
"What they do is their own business."
I liked that!
 
Christmas lights are suppose to be for the Christmas season. Keep them on all year and the "magic" of Christmas is over. If you keep them on for months on end or even worse, all year long, what is the point? Either you are too lazy to take them off or too dim-witted to understand that Christmas is over and so is Easter.

I live in one of them there 55 plus apartments. The lady across from me had her lights until March 7th. The day she shut off those lights I felt like going to the liquor store and buy a big bottle of "Sailor Jerry" to celebrate. Man Alive! Did this gal have ugly lights; as ugly as sin. They were not the beautiful tradition green or blue steady lights. Not a chance! Her lights flashed. They ran down and up and they ran from the right to the left. The circus or midway folks would have been jealousy. There are lights that are beautiful to behold and there are lights that are plain ugly. She chose plain ugly. Guess there is no understanding some people's tastes.
 
I can't find anything on the web about people being arrested for not taking down Christmas decorations. Fines, yes. Forced removal of offensive decorations, yes. I'm thinking you probably have this right, @Jules. They were probably arrested for another reason.

Christmas lights out of season make me smile, just the same as they do when they're in season. Messages for peace on earth and good will toward others are welcome in my life year-round.
That well may be. I saw the story several years ago as part of an expose on ridiculous laws still on the books in the U.S. @Jules, you are right. Sometimes when a story is first printed, the details are omitted. I see that a lot with news stories in our local news venues. Sometimes they come back and update the stories though.
 
There are a few errant Xmas decorations still up and to be seen in my neighborhood. Paradoxically, the people who keep them up the longest often rushed to put them up in October. Then there are the fading, wind-torn “Trump 2020” yard signs slowly decomposing, and even a Confederate flag one street over… 🤪
 
We're seniors in this forum, so it shouldn't come as a big surprise that people are nuts It's not a well-kept secret. Why can stores have "Xmas In July" sales, and start "Christmas Shopping" beginning in August, but Xmas decorations still up February is when we called the cops on them?
If you watch the tv shopping channels, you will know that Christmas starts in July. For those who make Christmas cards and gifts, they need to buy the materials early.
Just a footnote....last Christmas, I bought a new tree....it looks so nice that I have removed the decorations but still have the tree out. Seems a shame to hide it away in a cupboard.
 
We live in a small subdivision (just 4 streets) in an older neighborhood. It's ranch houses for the most part, with large 1/2 acre plots. We're on a corner so we have almost an acre. Some folks don't keep up their yards as well as others, but there are no eyesores.....EXCEPT for our neighbor. :mad: It's a rental, and the people before them kept it very neat and tidy. These folks have trash spilling out of the trash bins, random stuff littering the front yard, there is an unoperational truck AND a boat in the driveway with parts and tools and detritus everywhere. The back yard has a swing set that is also broken, toys and bikes and a plastic playhouse for their 8 year old girl all randomly scattered and in various states of disrepair. The worst is the dogs. They have 4 and there are holes and toys and broken dog houses, and the POOP SMELL!!!:sick:

There is only chain link fencing (theirs) separating the yards, so we've started planting small, fast trowing trees in one section, and Ron's in the process of making a fence for the other section. It won't handle the smell, but it will at least mean we don't have to look at the mess every time we're outside. And also hopefully prevent the dogs seeing us when we're out, because they bark non stop.
 
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That well may be. I saw the story several years ago as part of an expose on ridiculous laws still on the books in the U.S. @Jules, you are right. Sometimes when a story is first printed, the details are omitted. I see that a lot with news stories in our local news venues. Sometimes they come back and update the stories though.
Corrections rarely come with the same level of enthusiasm as the original story though. Robin Williams' tragic suicide comes to mind. It was top of the news for a week, including interviews with many "experts" - doctors who'd never met him, but nevertheless speculated that it was due to depression, the roles he was being offered, an "inability to cope with" his (as it turned out, nonexistent) Parkinson's, old substance abuse problems rearing their ugly heads, and more.

I'm shocked at how many people never heard that he committed suicide because he was suffering horribly by (undiagnosed) Lewy Body Dementia, which was determined through autopsy. It made the news, yes. But for one day and with far less fanfare.

Original stories are broadcast at level 10, and corrections at level 1.
 
We live in a small subdivision (just 4 streets) in an older neighborhood. It's ranch houses for the most part, with large 1/2 acre plots. We're on a corner so we have almost an acre. Some folks don't keep up their yards as well as others, but there are no eyesores.....EXCEPT for our neighbor. :mad: It's a rental, and the people before them kept it very neat and tidy. These folks have trash spilling out of the trash bins, random stuff littering the front yard, there is an inspirational truck AND a boat in the driveway with parts and tools and detritus everywhere. The back yard has a swing set that is also broken, toys and bikes and a plastic playhouse for their 8 year old girl all randomly scattered and in various states of disrepair. The worst is the dogs. They have 4 and there are holes and toys and broken dog houses, and the POOP SMELL!!!:sick:

There is only chain link fencing (theirs) separating the yards, so we've started planting small, fast trowing trees in one section, and Ron's in the process of making a fence for the other section. It won't handle the smell, but it will at least mean we don't have to look at the mess every time we're outside. And also hopefully prevent the dogs seeing us when we're out, because they bark non stop.
Does your city not have a bylaw enforcement unit ? I counted at least five reasons why you should be on the phone to both your city councilor AND the by law enforcement office and the animal control agency. You are paying property taxes to provide YOU with services like by law enforcement, health and safety inspections, and animal inspections. Get on the phone. JimB.
 
We live in a small subdivision (just 4 streets) in an older neighborhood. It's ranch houses for the most part, with large 1/2 acre plots. We're on a corner so we have almost an acre. Some folks don't keep up their yards as well as others, but there are no eyesores.....EXCEPT for our neighbor. :mad: It's a rental, and the people before them kept it very neat and tidy. These folks have trash spilling out of the trash bins, random stuff littering the front yard, there is an inspirational truck AND a boat in the driveway with parts and tools and detritus everywhere. The back yard has a swing set that is also broken, toys and bikes and a plastic playhouse for their 8 year old girl all randomly scattered and in various states of disrepair. The worst is the dogs. They have 4 and there are holes and toys and broken dog houses, and the POOP SMELL!!!:sick:

There is only chain link fencing (theirs) separating the yards, so we've started planting small, fast trowing trees in one section, and Ron's in the process of making a fence for the other section. It won't handle the smell, but it will at least mean we don't have to look at the mess every time we're outside. And also hopefully prevent the dogs seeing us when we're out, because they bark non stop.
I would complain to the City, the Board of Health...whomever you can find. The dog poop attracts flies that spread disease! Holes in the ground cause injuries. Injuries = lawsuits.

Could you also complain to the landlords? They might want to do an inspection...the inside may be as bad or worse than the outside; decreasing the value of their property.
 
In my subdivision, you are supposed to keep the trash out of sight until collection day. A few people prefer to put their trash on the curb as bags fill up. Some people only believe in what they want to do.

I just returned from NYC. Mainly Manhattan and trash is always piled on the sidewalk. My understanding is there's nowhere else to put it until the garbage truck shows up. The city was designed without side streets/alleys.

As for Christmas lights, the neighbor across the street put up Christmas lights about 6 years ago. She turned them on the first Christmas and not since. Yet, the lights are still up and drooping in spots. I don't let it bother me but it seems weird.
 
I would complain to the City, the Board of Health...whomever you can find. The dog poop attracts flies that spread disease! Holes in the ground cause injuries. Injuries = lawsuits.

Could you also complain to the landlords? They might want to do an inspection...the inside may be as bad or worse than the outside; decreasing the value of their property.
It's a good idea @RadishRose and we've talked about it before. Just not acted yet because of perhaps misplaced worries that it will repercus on us, that the neighbors will be vindictive in response. It wouldn't take much deduction to figure out who'd submitted the complaint. Everything I said is only visible on our side, becuase that's where the driveway and chain link is. Their neighbor on the other side has a tall fence, no driveway on their side, and both the houses just present a side wall with one window.

We've almost decided to at least talk to the landlord who would hopefully be amenable to keeping our names out of it, presenting it as a random idea on HIS part to come inspect.
 
@Ronni, considering the way sounds carry, the barking dogs could be an issue for all the neighbours. I’d try calling animal control for that one, because it could be anyone complaining and they wouldn’t know it’s you.
 
My hometown sets a bad example re: taking down Christmas lights in timely manner. Our Christmas lights stay up year round, year in and year out. It wasn't always this way either but for a few years now if you look closely at the trees in our town square, even on a bright summer morning, you will see Christmas lights in the foliage.

I think it helps us to prioritize.

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