Another attack: Such sweet dogs, NOT!

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These dog attacks are almost as frequent as gun violence.

"A mother fatally stabbed one of two dogs who attacked her 1-year-old daughter and other family members late Sunday in Pico Rivera. The toddler's grandmother, Margaret Morales, owned the two dogs, and the result of the attack on Sunday has been "traumatic" for the family, the toddler's mother said.

Ruby's mother, grandmother and aunt all then tried to wrestle the dogs in an attempt to get them off the little girl. Ruby's mother was bitten in the face, and her grandmother was bitten in the arm.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/dog-pit-bull-attack-pico-rivera/2877839/

"He had my granddaughter by the leg and when I tried to pull him off he bit my hand," said Margaret Morales. "The dog got her in the leg, her ankle and shoulder."

According to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, more than 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year in the United States and at least half of those victims are children."

https://www.foxla.com/news/mother-kills-dog-that-was-mauling-her-1-year-old-daughter-in-pico-rivera

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ack-baby-california-pico-rivera-b2065707.html
 

OMG, How horrible, it's totally heartbreaking.
I have always said that it depends on the owner on how they bring up their dog, however, when it comes to Pitbulls I am starting to change my mind.

About 6 years ago I lost my Abby a beautiful little Shih Tzu to a pit bull attack, I ended up shooting the bloody thing to get it off her, but it was too late.
 
What a shame! Sadly, many dog owners are careless about their dogs - how many times has someone said, "Oh, my little doggy is such a sweetheart, he'd never bite anyone!"

But the truth is, all too often parents are equally careless. Little kids and dogs - heck, even cats - do NOT mix well. Very few animals take kindly to hands grabbing their fur and skin, or tail or ears, and yanking HARD. It hurts, and the natural reaction of any animal is to defend themselves.

I love animals, and have had both cats and dogs. Pits are actually good tempered dogs by nature, and are not naturally mean. But many people have a poor understanding of the idiosyncrasies of different breeds.

Notice the story says the grandmother had owned the dogs for 4 months. Not easy to tell but those dogs look older than 4 months! No details on where she got them from, or how they were treated by previous owner(s). Unfortunately, too many folks get pit bulls and encourage them to be aggressive - that whole "macho" scenario.

So not really enough details to assess who's to blame. But for sure, letting unleashed adult dogs around a little kid is not a good idea.
 
My dog (see avatar) is very protective and leery of strangers, including children. After she becomes comfortable with someone she is very sociable but needs that get-to-know time.

We walk daily and she is always on a leash. More than once a kid has tried to approach us wanting to pet her. The hair stands up on her back and she will aggressively bark if they continue forward. She has never bitten anyone and I intend to keep it that way.

I command her to sit, grab her harness handle, and command no. Then inform the person, no, don't try to pet her, she doesn't know you.

I have asked parents to tell their child to stay back if they approach as unbelievably they sometimes don't seem to grasp that a dog can and will bite. The older human strangers get the bark message for themselves if they attempt to pet her.

My dog has never initiated an aggressive movement when someone is just walking along. The instinct kicks in when a unknown person approaches and wants to make contact.

I try to strike up a conversation with the person informing them that the dog just needs a few minutes to settle down and accept them.

Point is, don't approach strange dogs.
 
We've had all sorts of Breeds of Dogs, staffordshire bull terriers ', pitbulls, dobermans' etc rescue dogs.. all of those so called dangerous dogs we've had, have been badly treated yet, altho' very wary of people when they came to us.. after being cared for by my daughter, and her then partner, ( both dog trainers) those dogs never at any time acted in any way aggressively to our family or to strangers... However they did have problems with other dogs.. so for example the Dobie and the Pitbull were mortal enemies and had to be kennelled separately and exercised seprately... and no amount of training would make them act differently to each other..
 
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So, the pandemic came and the lord said for all to stay home. The good people found out that staying home day after day sure brought on those lonesome blues because suddenly there was no one to have coffee with or to just chin-wag about whatever. Single folks found that there was nobody to talk to but themselves. Married folks had someone to talk to but often it was the same person 24/7 and sometimes that other person started getting on their nerves. After a long time, many of these people thought that a nice "doggie" would really be nice. So through out the pandemic more and more folks started getting more and more doggies.

Some of the doggies were cute and cuddly. Mostly ladies adopted these little doggies. Others were mean and nasty. They were adopted by young men with an ego problem who drove 4X4 pickup trucks. These big doggies themselves had an ego problem too. They disliked people and had the weight and sharp teeth to keep them away from "their territory." Being bullies, these doggies especially liked to bite little children who were smaller than they were.

The moral of my story: too much pandemic = too many big doggies = more and more social problems.
 
Packerjohn said:
So, the pandemic came and the lord said for all to stay home. The good people found out that staying home day after day sure brought on those lonesome blues because suddenly there was no one to have coffee with or to just chin-wag about whatever. Single folks found that there was nobody to talk to but themselves. Married folks had someone to talk to but often it was the same person 24/7 and sometimes that other person started getting on their nerves. After a long time, many of these people thought that a nice "doggie" would really be nice. So through out the pandemic more and more folks started getting more and more doggies.

Some of the doggies were cute and cuddly. Mostly ladies adopted these little doggies. Others were mean and nasty. They were adopted by young men with an ego problem who drove 4X4 pickup trucks. These big doggies themselves had an ego problem too. They disliked people and had the weight and sharp teeth to keep them away from "their territory." Being bullies, these doggies especially liked to bite little children who were smaller than they were.

The moral of my story: too much pandemic = too many big doggies = more and more social problems.
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This is becoming a big problem here now, where those people who bought a Dog.. not just for Chritmas but for the Pandemic, now have returned to work and to socialising, and the dog is now in the way.... it's infuriating to see this, but I predicted it ages ago... the rescue centres are full to the brim .
 
Who needs a dog to begin with? Aside from aggressiveness, there is crap and uncontrollable barking to deal with. I think people who grew up with dogs see that as normal. A lot of neighbors don't.
 
We're blessed with the neighbors nice little Beagle. When they go to work she quickly comes over to our place, and stays on her favorite spot on the front porch. She mostly naps, and wants a nice belly rub whenever we go out. So, we have pleasure of a nice friendly dog hanging around for much of the week, and they get the vet bills.
 
hollydolly said:
constant barking is not usual in a well trained dog, who isn't left alone for long periods of time ..nor are the majority of dogs aggressive..
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We had a dog for 5 years in one place. Then one day we had the dog and the kids and friends all out front playing. The mailman came by he said "oh when did you get the dog?" he was shocked to hear she had been with us well before we ever bought the house 5 years earlier. She did snap at a child one time, but said child was an undisciplined brat who hurt her, still she didn't bite the kid I'd say she warned him. It was her home but I sent her out into the back yard since I knew the kid would probably do it again. The kids parents never said no to the boy, they said when he was 5 they were going to send him to a boarding school in England and he would learn to behave there. Good luck with that!
 
Lethe200 said:
What a shame! Sadly, many dog owners are careless about their dogs - how many times has someone said, "Oh, my little doggy is such a sweetheart, he'd never bite anyone!"
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As a kid I delivered newspapers. Back in the day dogs ran loose and paper carriers were a favorite target. I tossed a paper in a woman's driveway. Out comes her dog barking and snapping. The owner walks up and tells me not to worry, he would NEVER bite. All the while he has me by the ankle. Then there was a scary German Shepherd that would obviously bite -- so the owner outfitted him with a sturdy wire muzzle. He would ram me with that muzzle, like being hit by a torpedo. Ouch!
 
mrstime said:
We had a dog for 5 years in one place. Then one day we had the dog and the kids and friends all out front playing. The mailman came by he said "oh when did you get the dog?" he was shocked to hear she had been with us well before we ever bought the house 5 years earlier. She did snap at a child one time, but said child was an undisciplined brat who hurt her, still she didn't bite the kid I'd say she warned him. It was her home but I sent her out into the back yard since I knew the kid would probably do it again. The kids parents never said no to the boy, they said when he was 5 they were going to send him to a boarding school in England and he would learn to behave there. Good luck with that!
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tell the parents that Prince Harry and Prince Andrew both went to Private school here, ..I'm saying nothing more... :LOL:
 
When I was a kid, one afternoon I was running around playing with friends. This neighbor was washing his car with his German Shepard nearby resting. For whatever, reason the dog ran after us and chose me to bite in the rear end. From that day forward, I swore off dogs of any kind.

Now, when I walk at the park and someone with a dog is going in the opposite direction, I ALWAYS step off the concrete path. Furthermore, I noticed there are two people who walk pitbulls. These dogs have a mean expression and a whole lot of muscle. I have a lot of respect for them. So I give them an even wider berth.

When I see people walking in my neighborhood, some carry a stick. It a defensive tool to make sure they don't get bite by someone's dog who is not fenced in as required by city ordinance.

Anyway, the law needs to do something about parents who expose their children to injury or death just so they can have mean dogs.
 
Don M. said:
Anyone who has a mean dog is taking a risk...especially if they have young children in the house. Some dogs are not much "tamer" than their wolf ancestors.
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Mean dogs must be treated as wolves.
They've gotta know who's the alpha.
There are a few ways of doing that.
One proven one is grabbing the sides of their head by the ears and shaking the crap outa their head.
There's other ways, I'm sure.

Anyone that let's a mean dog around kids is liable.
Just as liable as having a loaded gun sitting in the open.
 
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These were our staffie and pitbull and dobie, Cane Corso Mastiff & Belgian Malinios ( the latter is trained as a guard dog) .. almost all of them except the mali gone to rainbow bridge now... but mean as they might look, they weren't.. and they were rescues, except for the Malinois and had been badly treated at their first homes..

The staffie in particular was such a people dog, it was a nuisance sometimes because she just wanted people..to love her , so she'd lick people , swing her little old bootie in excitement when visitors came.. she was such a darling girl.

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this is rodders, he was extremely powerful..
This was the cane corso, and he had mental problems due to being badly treated.. and yet he never harmed our puppy labradoodle in the middle as you can see... and on the other side is Zeus the dobie..
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Zeus again, a super powerful dog who was trained as a guard dog too... alongside our sweet staffie Minky..

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..and Zeus again with my DD...
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...and last but not least of the 'dangerous dogs' in our family is the Belgian Mali.... not a rescue.. but trained to high level security , she was only 6 months old in this picture with my dd..
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Dogs should always be cautiously "introduced" to a new baby in the family. You don't just toss a kid out there and wait to see what the dog does. You hold onto the kid, nicely tell the dog who it is, let him sniff at it while someone holds onto both of them, then maybe put the kid down.

A trainer can teach your dog to protect all small humans, and that kids aren't a threat and aren't something they can have for dinner.
 
hollydolly said:
This is becoming a big problem here now, where those people who bought a Dog.. not just for Chritmas but for the Pandemic, now have returned to work and to socialising, and the dog is now in the way.... it's infuriating to see this, but I predicted it ages ago... the rescue centres are full to the brim .
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I don't know if I should laugh or not! When Covid19 started, I read this article saying that many people were now adopting dogs and cats as company. The same article said that there might be problems when the pandemic is over. Well, it is more or less over, people are getting back to normal and we have a glut of unwanted doggies. I suppose that the predication in that 2 year old article was "right on the nose."

You see, you get a puppy and you have a 14 plus year commitment to provide a "forever home." The 2 year Covid19 plan just is so short-sighted. Sorry for those canine creatures. No more love; no more home.
 

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