Watching Bob, Carol, Ted, and Alice: How do you feel?

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

Be what you is not what you what you ain’t
Location
Central NY
I recall watching BCTA at a movie theater, at the time I was more aware of the nudity than the message of communication. The movie theme was an invitation for people to speak openly and honestly about their feelings. Robert Culp announces to his wife Natalie Wood, Carol he had sex on a business trip. Trust and sharing honestly is the cure for any wrongdoings.

If you are honest about what you do, does honesty make things right?

Should people today be more in touch with their feelings? Has society regressed to a time unknown to social/psyche experimentation?
 

Mr. Ed said:
I recall watching BCTA at a movie theater, at the time I was more aware of the nudity than the message of communication. The movie theme was an invitation for people to speak openly and honestly about their feelings. Robert Culp announces to his wife Natalie Wood, Carol he had sex on a business trip. Trust and sharing honestly is the cure for any wrongdoings.

If you are honest about what you do, does honesty make things right?

Should people today be more in touch with their feelings?
Click to expand...

Mr. Ed said:
Has society regressed to a time unknown to social/psyche experimentation?
Click to expand...
Re: first question: Bunk. In situations like that, it'd be a matter of the "guilty" party unburdening himself at the cost of making his partner feel bad.

Second question: it's gone way overboard. Seems the Boomer Generation was the ideal candidates for the so-called self-help (excuse the word) crap. The average person knows what/how he/she 'feels' without having to make an issue of it.

Third question: not exactly sure what you're asking.
 
I remember a lot of hype about that film, but I can't remember if I saw it. So not much help here.
 
The world is a bunch of hype. Think about it. Why do humans invest so much to be like everyone else or to stand out like a peacock for the sake of identification? People used to have Sunday go to meeting clothes strangely enough to impress one another because. God isn't interested in how you look or how much money you have.

I read the Carlos Castaneda series because I thought i would learn from it. The other book was The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment by Thaddeus Golas that taught me the physics of life and living.

Do you recall the pet rock? An ordinary rock that was marketed as a pet and consumers bought it. Hype, it's all about the hype. I too am guilty about getting things I want or decide I should have. What is hype? According to Webster's dictionary, hype means -put on, deceive, to promote or publicize extravagantly, deception. Church and religion are hype.
 
I stopped wearing a suit to church probably 20 or so years ago. I wore a coat and tie everyday for work and on one Sunday morning, I decided no mas. However, I still shave before going to church.

As for your first question, I agree with Janice. The cheater only tells to unburden himself, but there are consequences to cheating.
 
I guess the question is:
If you have "secret", do you live with it, OR do unburden yourself by telling your spouse? Which is better.
I think it depends on how your secret affects your spouse, and how your spouse takes things. If a man had a one nighter years ago, how would her knowing that affect her. Might it be kinder not to tell her? Yet, if the man says " This is my other wife and kids" his spouse is definitely affected.
 
Mr. Ed said:
People used to have Sunday go to meeting clothes strangely enough to impress one another because. God isn't interested in how you look or how much money you have.
Click to expand...
How do you know it was to impress one another? God doesn't care how we look or how much money we spend but he does care about our priorities.

The way I looked at it, I thought I should wear my best clothes to God's house out of respect for the most important place I went. If I wore my nicest clothes to work, then I needed to ask myself why I cared more for the job than for my religion.

But that was just me looking at myself and my priorities. These days most of the men in my church are wearing khakis and polo shirts with some of them wearing jeans, or in summer shorts and shower shoes. The pastor wears jeans most of the time. Anything goes and that's fine with me.

I still feel guilty if I save back a new top for something else.
 
oldaunt said:
And no, confession does not make a wrong RIGHT, no matter WHAT the catholics think. Its STILL wrong.
Click to expand...
It's not just the Catholics who believe in confession.

1 John 1:9 " If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Protestants may not think a priest has to be present, but we believe we should admit we did wrong to God and ask for His forgiveness. It doesn't make the wrong right, God just gives us a chance to repent and go forward, trying to do better in the future.
 
My dad was a preacher. I hate the man he was. Christianity was a constant reminder of him. So much that all things related to church, religion, faith and the Bible made my life miserable. Last Sunday, I denounce Christianity and the Bible based on years and years of pain and discomfort. It makes sense that I stop punishing myself for the lie I was told to believe at birth.
 
I'm sorry your father made you miserable, Mr. Ed. and I'm sorry that he is mixed up in Christianity for you.

Jesus was all about love and forgiveness.

Unfortunately not everyone who chose to join the Christian church is a good person and some of the ones who declared themselves "called to preach" really just wanted a chance to stand if front of a captive audience and pontificate every Sunday.
 
It is paradoxical to believe in religion, the bible and god as a good thing when all three cause the amount of harm they do. Christian preachers are inept at dealing with spiritual matters because they have not the means or understanding to resolve issues in their life. Those issues are a deterrent to understanding what people need rather than biblical scripture.

The bible is a record of events from the Old and New Testaments, which are related in Scripture. I am told that God speaks to people who read the bible. I hated reading the bible not from spiritual conflict but because it was difficult for me to understand. A lot of speculation in finding truth. Most of the Bible is speculation by which you think you understand.
 
I agree the Bible is hard to understand, I like to read it online as part of a site where the passage is discussed to help me understand. I read a little bit every day of the, "Daily Prayer" web site and often find out a passage I thought I understood means something else. As far as I know God never literally spoke to me though.

Mr. Ed, your profile banner always makes me think of one of my favorite lines from Lily Tomlin;
"Reality is the highest form of stress, for those who are in touch with it." LOL It hit home for me, anyway.
 
Mr. Ed said:
My dad was a preacher. I hate the man he was. Christianity was a constant reminder of him. So much that all things related to church, religion, faith and the Bible made my life miserable. Last Sunday, I denounce Christianity and the Bible based on years and years of pain and discomfort. It makes sense that I stop punishing myself for the lie I was told to believe at birth.
Click to expand...
So glad you brought this up. I wanted to tell you myself. Religion/God/Christianity is a horrible nightmare for you and you should not only forget the whole thing but stop starting threads about it too. Yeah, stop punishing yourself. Let it go, live out your life without that which has harmed & damaged you. Start by not allowing yourself to think about it anymore. Stop trying to reconcile it or try it in new ways. Just quit it already. I'll remind you in case you forget. It's not for you, it's bad for your physical and emotional well being.
 
Perhaps I am wallowing in my own self pity. On that note I will try not to present those particular thoughts and feelings here to the forum. It’s hard to cut church and Christianity out of my life because my responsibility to my wife. I don’t like church but I attend because my wife enjoys church, my wife and I have different interests and although church/Christianity is not for me, my wife appreciates my support.
I’ll try to limit my posts regarding Christianity, church, religion, faith etc. ironically I am in church now and this tablet helps me with distraction.
 
I recall seeing that stupid movie when I was a young adult with my wife! We both thought it was stupid at the time. I never will see it again, so I still must know it is just plain stupid. Typical hollywood trash....
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top