Monkeypox and Masks

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I read today that the CDC is taking about mask wearing to prevent contacting Monkeypox. I think I smell a rat. I did some reading on this earlier and saw that this disease is a 'contact' disease. You have to come into contact with someone infected with the virus to catch it. Below is one of the sources where I found direction to follow. Do your own research, but we are talking about a disease similar to Chicken Pox and anyone who has had a smallpox vaccination already has some immunity.

CLEVELAND CLINIC

How do you prevent monkeypox virus?

A smallpox vaccine can provide protection against monkeypox, but its use is currently limited to people who work in a lab with the variola (smallpox) virus. Prevention depends on decreasing human contact with infected animals and limiting person-to-person spread. You can prevent monkeypox virus by:
  • Avoiding contact with infected animals (especially sick or dead animals).
  • Avoiding contact with bedding and other materials contaminated with the virus.
  • Washing your hands with soap and water after coming into contact with an infected animal.
  • Thoroughly cooking all foods that contain animal meat or parts.
  • Avoiding contact with people who may be infected with the virus.
  • Using personal protective equipment (PPE) when caring for people infected with the virus.
 

The C.D.C. urges monkeypox patients to wear a surgical mask, “especially those who have respiratory symptoms.” It also asks other household members to “consider wearing a surgical mask” when they are in the presence of the person with monkeypox.

Monkeypox is assumed to behave much like its viral cousin, smallpox. In a 2012 review of smallpox transmission, Dr. Donald Milton, an expert on viruses at the University of Maryland, described several instances of airborne transmission.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/health/monkeypox-masks-cdc.html
 
I am still wearing a mask when out in public for Covid, may it will help with other things as well. There are not many cases of monkey pox in the USA yet but it was the same way when Covid first got here.
 

That was inappropriate and uncalled for, certain opinions should be kept to oneself.

It won't protect a man and women either.
 
Blessed said:
That was inappropriate and uncalled for, certain opinions should be kept to oneself.

It won't protect a man and women either.
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Read @Don M. 's link. He was referring to what medical experts are saying. There was a story about a guy in UK who has recently recovered from it and he's HIV positive which could explain the early disproportionate numbers.

From the CDC yesterday:

https://www.newsweek.com/monkeypox-cases-us-primarily-among-men-who-have-sex-men-cdc-1713307

An update by the CDC showed 31 confirmed cases in the U.S. as of Monday. "It's not clear how the people were exposed to monkeypox, but early data suggest that gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men make up a high number of cases," the CDC said regarding monkeypox in the U.S.

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AnnieA said:
Read @Don M. 's link. He was referring to what medical experts are saying. There was a story about a guy in UK who has recently recovered from it and he's HIV positive which could explain the early disproportionate numbers.

From the CDC yesterday:

https://www.newsweek.com/monkeypox-cases-us-primarily-among-men-who-have-sex-men-cdc-1713307

An update by the CDC showed 31 confirmed cases in the U.S. as of Monday. "It's not clear how the people were exposed to monkeypox, but early data suggest that gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men make up a high number of cases," the CDC said regarding monkeypox in the U.S.

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I did read the link he provided. Yes, the article did reference that there were gay men involved in this case. Your additional link, provides other information regarding the gay community.
AnnieA said:
Read @Don M. 's link. He was referring to what medical experts are saying. There was a story about a guy in UK who has recntly recovered from it and he's HIV positive which could explain the early disproportionate numbers.

From the CDC yesterday:

https://www.newsweek.com/monkeypox-cases-us-primarily-among-men-who-have-sex-men-cdc-1713307

An update by the CDC showed 31 confirmed cases in the U.S. as of Monday. "It's not clear how the people were exposed to monkeypox, but early data suggest that gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men make up a high number of cases," the CDC said regarding monkeypox in the U.S.

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Your article also says if can be spread by skin to skin contact, pus. They are still conducting tests to see if it can be spread by semen, ******l and other bodily fluids. That has not been proven yet, skin to skin spread is the proven cause at this time. Skin to skin contact can be made thru a handshake, a hug, healthworkers caring for patients. In other words by touching others in anyway that has it and has it present on their skin.

I stand by my statement I made to Don. It was inappropriate and uncalled for, it was very clear to me what he was doing.
 
Any type of skin contact with anyone who has chicken pox or monkeypox, would spread it (either gender, any type of close touching)

And, in addition, both of these illnesses can also be spread by respiratory droplets ....airborne, if fairly close to any infected person.

Spread from sharing a towel or sheets or clothing, is possible if there are secretions from the pox sores, on those fabrics.
 
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Don M. said:
A mask will Not protect a man who is having sex with another man.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220606/Monkeypox-virus-transmission-via-sexual-contact.aspx
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What a shame. I have always appreciated your balanced insight in this forum. I have especially appreciated your posts re: finances and other issues, but some topics always seem to bring out the "real person". I'm not belligerent about my sexuality, but I do take exception when it is disparaged. Thank you for showing me who you really are.
 
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Just read both links and it will be very clear that he was being rude. He did not say anything about all of the other medical information. He just wanted to state in some way something ugly about gay men. It is not called for and is inappropriate. He is not stating facts. I am not quick to jump on people.
I will say something when it needs to be said and some opinions or facts. as you say, do not need to be said on any open forum.
 
with monkey pox, especially because of the pandemic..

I would think that the governments and scientists are all primed and ready to fight...

so, I think it is highly likely that this one will resolve without extensive problems.
 
dseag2 said:
What a shame. I have always appreciated your balanced insight in this forum. I have especially appreciated your posts re: finances and other issues, but some topics always seem to bring out the "real person". I'm not belligerent about my sexuality, but I do take exception when it is disparaged. Thank you for showing me who you really are.
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Well, Excuuuuse me. I suppose I could have been a bit more "politically correct" in my post, but if You and Blessed read the article I referenced, and several others on the Monkey Pox illness, you would see that the vast amount of evidence points to homosexual activity, especially among men, as being the primary source of this illness.

If comment "style" is more important to some, than "facts", so be it.
 
dseag2 said:
What a shame. I have always appreciated your balanced insight in this forum. I have especially appreciated your posts re: finances and other issues, but some topics always seem to bring out the "real person". I'm not belligerent about my sexuality, but I do take exception when it is disparaged. Thank you for showing me who you really are.
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It didn't come across to me as disparaging when I first read the post since medical news backs the demographics. However, I did just notice the capital N in Don's not which puts a different spin on it.

Waiting to hear why medical authorities are highlighting male sex so early on. My guess is that those who are contracting it are HIV positive since that lowers resistance to everything.
 
Don M. said:
Well, Excuuuuse me. I suppose I could have been a bit more "politically correct" in my post, but if You and Blessed read the article I referenced, and several others on the Monkey Pox illness, you would see that the vast amount of evidence points to homosexual activity, especially among men, as being the primary source of this illness.

If comment "style" is more important to some, than "facts", so be it.
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I respect you @Don M. so I will take your post at face value. I'm sure you meant no harm. I think the sensitivity on my part is that I am not promiscuous and have never had any gay-related diseases, so I am always sensitive when I see the gay community painted in this light.

I know you are a sensible, caring, intelligent human being so for my part... byegones. I always appreciate your insights and look forward to continuing to chat with you in various threads.
 
dseag2 said:
I respect you @Don M. so I will take your post at face value. I'm sure you meant no harm. I think the sensitivity on my part is that I am not promiscuous and have never had any gay-related diseases, so I am always sensitive when I see the gay community painted in this light.

I know you are a sensible, caring, intelligent human being so for my part... byegones. I always appreciate your insights and look forward to continuing to chat with you in various threads.
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I wish I had the grace to let it go as well. I tried until I saw another post by same party on a different thread regarding monkey pox. He added the same link as before but changed his wording to "Take" on the topic. I had a good long reflection. I was going to say thank you for his changed post but decided it was only a change he thought would be more PC accepted.

I am sure he is a nice man, just not as open to the real world, and the people who live in it. His actions still upset me in regards to the subject, we might get along very well in other areas. I can see that he has many pleasant and insightful views in other subjects. This is one he should avoid.
 
Blessed said:
That was inappropriate and uncalled for, certain opinions should be kept to oneself.

It won't protect a man and women either.
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I think it was important and necessary to point out.
Not necessarily an opinion either - just the facts please.

A search for "effectiveness of masks" over the last three years, and longer,
has shown over a hundred studies indicate the masks , mask mandates, and shutdowns, did much more harm than good.
They especially have harmed children.

LOOK for the studies, not the politically correct advertising which is opinions.
 
Just Jeff said:
I think it was important and necessary to point out.
Not necessarily an opinion either - just the facts please.

A search for "effectiveness of masks" over the last three years, and longer,
has shown over a hundred studies indicate the masks , mask mandates, and shutdowns, did much more harm than good.
They especially have harmed children.

LOOK for the studies, not the politically correct advertising which is opinions.
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I am sorry Jeff, I do not understand what you are telling me. Can you be more in depth. If you go back and review my post and the links in question and be very specific to all the medical information stated that would help me.

The fact that homosexual men were documented in one study does not indicate that this is the only way Monkeypox spreads. It is not medically proven that semen, ******l or other bodily fluids are involved. What is proven is that skin to skin contact by anyone, in any way (sex or not) the virus can be transmitted. To man, woman or child by any skin to skin contact. At this point, I think our health care workers should be the ones to be concerned.
 
Blessed said:
I am sorry Jeff, I do not understand what you are telling me. Can you be more in depth. If you go back and review my post and the links in question and be very specific to all the medical information stated that would help me.
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First, don't be sorry, just be/ continue to be/ honest and seeking the truth.

I'm not sure what medical information stated you are referring to - or if you mean something stated in your posts or in mine. Could you clarify that if you want to ?
 
Kaila said:
And, in addition, both of these illnesses can also be spread by respiratory droplets ....airborne, if fairly close to any infected person.
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"... can also be spread ...."
Does that make a difference ? Noting for example chicken px.... after a child -maybe an adult - had chicken px, they are immune for life. So there were a lot of times a sign was put on the door where children might be expected "CHICKEN POX PRESENT" , and guess what happened - MANY more children were brought to get them exposed and to catch chicken px while it was not dangerous at their age -for a normally healthy child with a normal immune system.

Over the last hundred years, it has been very frequently proven that a person with a strong immune system, and/or developed immunity , to a disease won't be in danger from the disease , and was realized also by medical care providers in hospitals and homes caring for many many who were ill or sick, and the providers with immunity and/or a strong immune system did not fall ill. Yes, a few might, but not as many as were damage by vaccinations or had their immune system compromised by toxins.
 
Why was it necessary that the OP took a shot to the gay community?

This is not a situation at this point that should focused on the gay community. Just because some men were intimate has no validity. The monkeypox virus has not yet been confirmed to be transmitted by semen, ******l or other bodily fluids. It is confirmed to be transferred by skin to skin contact. Men, Women and children. To me the people that are at risk the most are health care workers. They have to touch us everyday for normal medical care.

I am asking you to go back and read the OP post. Read his link, then read the other links by others that replied. I think that should clarify the matter. The last thing I will say is that the OP posted the same link in another monkeypox thread and changed his wording in the opening line.
 
Blessed said:
Why was it necessary that the OP took a shot to the gay community?
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Why is your opinion right and his fact-stating wrong ? It looks to me like he merely repeated what the links posted that he read/referenced said.
When or if , for a very bad example perhaps, a kkk group moves into an area, and does what they do, would it be an error to notice that and/or to report that ?
Again, from that old police show - "Just the facts, ma'am" .
 
SeniorBen said:
The C.D.C. urges monkeypox patients to wear a surgical mask, “especially those who have respiratory symptoms.” It also asks other household members to “consider wearing a surgical mask” when they are in the presence of the person with monkeypox.
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Why ?
So far as I've seen anywhere online, not one study shows the masks worked in such cases to reduce infections nor to reduce deaths.
 
How Rude.
Since when is there a "post count" police to determine how many times someone can post in any thread ?
 

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