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If there were a cancer vaccine developed.......
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Ronni
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There you go again making all of these threatening claims with not one single reference or link or study. And you think WE’RE the sheep!!
How did you know you had cancer several times? What type was it? How was it diagnosed? Did you see a doctor? How did you cure yourself?
I believe that I already told you several times in the past about family friend, work partner pharmacist, and doctor ,
and you chose to say you won't believe it. That's on you.
Keep searching until you find out though, if you want to learn and to know the truth. So far, it looks like you choose to believe whose who have tricked almost everyone so far for generations. For all who choose like that, nothing good can be done as far as I know or am aware.
You et al give people no hope for curing diseases, when the cures have been available for longer than you and your parents have been alive.
If you or your parents or your teachers or your neighbors wanted to find the cures, it was relatively simple to find and prove. But it costs a lot to turn away from formerly trusted, though untrustworthy relatives or teachers or doctors or sources, right ? Giving up what likely sustained you for many years is a great obstacle to overcome. Very few , or few people, are willing to pay the price for truth today.
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Everything I said has been long ago vetted, tested, proven, or as they say "the proof is in the pudding" ?
Lies dominate America. Like Bobby Fisher famously, or infamously stated "America is lies and thefts!" .... and this was noted by millions of other people and peoples over the last century as well.
So everyone grows up surrounded by lies, with very few exceptions here or anywhere.
THe truth ? Is rarely every heard, and is more valuable than gold.
Still no need to believe everything I say, until you prove it for yourself and turn away from the deceptions that you listened to for the last several decades. No one honest thinks the usa government or corporations tell the truth , no more than lawyers or drug lords do, or used car salesmen, or priests, or religions, or anyone who wants money more than truth.
Why can you just not give a straight answer? I know that a healthy diet, good physical hard work, not drinking or smoking is the way to go. My father died of a massive cardiac event at 36. He was in the air force, a lot of pressure and did not take care of his self and had a family history. My mother lived until 90, she did take care of her self, no smoking, no drinking, very active, and mostly vegan her whole life.
I admit that my husband died of skin cancer after many years of working in the sun. He had basal cell carcinoma on of the most curable cancers known to man. The doctors said it was removed and there was nothing more to worry about. He went for years for a physical all over the body check looking for any basal cell. It was always addressed. No, basal cell does not metasize, guess what it can and it does. It very very rare, but it happens. Guess what, you can look it up. After normal cancer drugs, cisplatin, carboplatin and taxotere and the horrible effects we got into a clinical trial. The trial was being done in Scottsdale, AZ. at TGen clinical research. The doctor that led the study was Daniel Von Hoff. The drug was GDC-0449. Guess what you can look it up. It was known as the hedgehog study.
It not only slowed but shrunk the cancer. My husband was able to live a somewhat normal life on this drug. No ill side effects. The study paid for everything, our airfare, hotels, food, gas and any tests, surgerys for his care and for me to be there with him.
The drug was FDA approved not shortly after my husbands death. It has given many families more time together, like it did ours, and was a definite step forward in cancer care. So, yes I think you are full of bull, you can go look all of this up, it is right there for anyone to see. I hope I have given you enough information.
I admit that my husband died of skin cancer after many years of working in the sun. He had basal cell carcinoma on of the most curable cancers known to man. The doctors said it was removed and there was nothing more to worry about. He went for years for a physical all over the body check looking for any basal cell. It was always addressed. No, basal cell does not metasize, guess what it can and it does. It very very rare, but it happens. Guess what, you can look it up. After normal cancer drugs, cisplatin, carboplatin and taxotere and the horrible effects we got into a clinical trial. The trial was being done in Scottsdale, AZ. at TGen clinical research. The doctor that led the study was Daniel Von Hoff. The drug was GDC-0449. Guess what you can look it up. It was known as the hedgehog study.
It not only slowed but shrunk the cancer. My husband was able to live a somewhat normal life on this drug. No ill side effects. The study paid for everything, our airfare, hotels, food, gas and any tests, surgerys for his care and for me to be there with him.
The drug was FDA approved not shortly after my husbands death. It has given many families more time together, like it did ours, and was a definite step forward in cancer care. So, yes I think you are full of bull, you can go look all of this up, it is right there for anyone to see. I hope I have given you enough information.
All you said was hogwash from those who make a living off the backs of others, suppressing the truth for over a century now.
As noted before many time, as long as someone trusts those who are more interested in money than truth, they cannot be helped.
Over 2 dozen different cures for cancer used worldwide, over a dozen in the usa alone, were proven decades ago, and are suppressed.
https://allianceforadvancedhealth.com/cancer-cure-hidden-49-years/
excerpts:
"It’s a breakthrough that could cost Big Pharma billions – so don’t expect to hear about it from our government or at your mainstream doctor’s office.
But this breakthrough therapy could end up saving your life.
The legendary chemist Linus Pauling won TWO Nobel Prizes in his lifetime.
And he should have won a third.
Back in 1968, Pauling proved that massive doses of vitamin C could prevent and even kill cancer – all without serious side effects.
And you can bet that scared the pants off the drug companies and mainstream medical establishment folks who were making a fortune off of chemotherapy and radiation."
"The researchers determined that IVC signals faulty stem cells to die off rather than fight to survive and spread, as malignant cells do.
But this isn’t the first research to prove IVC stops cancer… just the latest.
In a study from the University of Salford in England, vitamin C was found to be an impressive ten times more effective than Big Pharma drugs at cutting off the metabolism of cancer stem cells.
And in another study, adding IVC to common chemotherapy drugs for pancreatic cancer more than DOUBLED survival times.
So why aren’t cancer patients being told about this?
Greedy drug corporations don’t want us to know that there are safer, natural options to fighting cancer.
Vitamin C is cheap and cannot be patented so there is no financial motivation for cancer clinics to promote it over other, more profitable, treatments."
As noted before many time, as long as someone trusts those who are more interested in money than truth, they cannot be helped.
Over 2 dozen different cures for cancer used worldwide, over a dozen in the usa alone, were proven decades ago, and are suppressed.
https://allianceforadvancedhealth.com/cancer-cure-hidden-49-years/
excerpts:
"It’s a breakthrough that could cost Big Pharma billions – so don’t expect to hear about it from our government or at your mainstream doctor’s office.
But this breakthrough therapy could end up saving your life.
The legendary chemist Linus Pauling won TWO Nobel Prizes in his lifetime.
And he should have won a third.
Back in 1968, Pauling proved that massive doses of vitamin C could prevent and even kill cancer – all without serious side effects.
And you can bet that scared the pants off the drug companies and mainstream medical establishment folks who were making a fortune off of chemotherapy and radiation."
"The researchers determined that IVC signals faulty stem cells to die off rather than fight to survive and spread, as malignant cells do.
But this isn’t the first research to prove IVC stops cancer… just the latest.
In a study from the University of Salford in England, vitamin C was found to be an impressive ten times more effective than Big Pharma drugs at cutting off the metabolism of cancer stem cells.
And in another study, adding IVC to common chemotherapy drugs for pancreatic cancer more than DOUBLED survival times.
So why aren’t cancer patients being told about this?
Greedy drug corporations don’t want us to know that there are safer, natural options to fighting cancer.
Vitamin C is cheap and cannot be patented so there is no financial motivation for cancer clinics to promote it over other, more profitable, treatments."
I did several times, or all the time. You said / posted/ you don't believe the truthful answers.
That's on you.
WOW That was a quick response!! I am so surprised that you had the time, in 6 minutes to go and look up all that information on google and really read and understand. You are a miracle own your own. Speed reader that takes the time to fully digest the information you have been given.
Are you being dense on purpose.
I learned the truth decades ago, while still in pharmacy.
I've known about Linus Pauling (and many of the others) for decades - the Nobel Prize Winner who proved the cure for cancer.
You don't have to believe him. Go ahead and continue believing the ones making money suppressing the truth.
I've always posted the truth -- something few others are able to say honestly.
You have not accepted the truth , and continue resisting it and not even looking for it , who knows why ?
You and others have a whole society that loves the way you think - believing what you all were conditioned to believe, to go along with the money / power/ brokers. So you all have each other and a lot of others to keep you company and to continue patting you on the back. Too bad it is not in truth nor healthy though. Just the opposite.
Never-the-less, if you decide to look into any or all that I have posted, if seeking the truth and always seek the truth, you will (or may be at least) well rewarded.
If you loved the truth, you would believe what I said. It all has been tested true, long before you asked me any questions.
"If there were a cancer vaccine developed.......
Yea right, like I would believe what you say!- Blessed
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Okay, you just go right ahead in your brain, round and round you go. where you stop no one knows. Don't look at anymore information, don't do any research that is current today, don't consider that other people might know something. Live in the dream world you have built. Rely on things you have read or seen decades ago that you accept as truth. Don't consider anything else, keep refusing to give your real true experiences, your cancer, what kind, how it was diagnosed, how it was cured, what doctors you saw, what treatment you recieved. Could it be because it never, none of it happened. You just live in a world where you and only you have the answer to all things. Oh I get it now, your name is not JustJeff it is God the all powerful and we must not question you. We are all mere mortals that best heed your word.
If you know a simple, inexpensive , non-toxic, way to cure a disease, post it.
If you know an expensive, toxic, painful way to treat but not cure a disease, a way that causes more disease in fact, WHY would anyone want to know that ?
See ? Look for good, not bad ways.
See post 84 for one of the simplest, proven, frequently naturally used for decades methods . "real results", "real researchers" as you claim.
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Sorry to disagree with you here. I have great respect for Linus Pauling and his work as a chemist but he was fixated on Vit C as a magic cure all. He started out claiming that massive doses could prevent the common cold and moved on from there.
This article outlines what I am talking about. There are probably better sources but they are too academic for most of us, including me.
Anyone interested in the long answer can read on here -
High dose vitamin C and cancer: Has Linus Pauling been vindicated? | Science-Based Medicine (sciencebasedmedicine.org)
Linus Pauling was awarded his Nobel prize “for his research into the nature of the chemical bond and its application to the elucidation of the structure of complex substances”
He wrote an excellent chemistry book for university science students and I loved him for its clarity and ease of understanding, but I do think that he lost the plot over Vitamin C.
The drug lords do not want his work to be recognized, they did the same to Max Gerson, MD, and dozens or hundreds of others.
Just vitamin c by itself may or may not help someone, anyone, a lot. Good sound nutritional support with all the necessary fundamentals for someone are needed also, whether daily or weekly , and might only be discovered by testing (outside the ama/pharmakeia control), or by trial and error, or/and by someone with decade of experience.
Many others have rightly and honestly discovered the helpfulness of vitamin c, and likewise we must ignore those who make money with slash poison and burn methods as they don't want it known.
It also happens to be safe to "experiment" with , for most people, and yes it may be best to get someone experienced with all the nutrition needed. See "Nutrition the Cancer Answer" for a lot more simple proven help.
sorry matrix just did not recently post, you pulled from a notice he sent out regarding the Covid Vaccine.
Just to be sure, I went to the link. It looks like it is pharmakeia based, and false, not trustworthy at all.
Warrigal
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If you do not know, then look for it.
Did you read ? >
If I gave you a link or a book that started : Adolf Hitler was a wonderful man, and we should listen to him.
Would you read the link or the book ?
Bad sources and bad company corrupt (even) good morals. They do not help.
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That is quite a leap of logic. I have stated my respect for Pauling's work on chemical bonds.
That does not mean that his work on Vitamin C is equally worthy.
One of these days I might find the time to read Mein Kampf out of curiosity but I haven't so far.
That does not mean that his work on Vitamin C is equally worthy.
One of these days I might find the time to read Mein Kampf out of curiosity but I haven't so far.