I miss America

Judycat said:
My dad missed the sound of the horse and buggy and the way kerosene lamps made shadows on the wall. Same old stuff. Guess former cave people missed not having to clean everything because back then everything was made of dirt.
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well I miss people being polite. I miss people not attacking each other with knives and guns.. I miss people not being snowflakes and taking offence over everything.. and I miss the crime level not being as high as it is, and I miss the police fighting crime...
 

fuzzybuddy said:
Nostalgia is always warm and fuzzy. We choose to remember the happy times. But there never was a utopian past. Rape, murders, crime, riots, famines, disease, drugs, immigration, and the rest were just as prevalent in any other time, as they are today. It was a "simpler time" means that we didn't understand as much of how the universe works, not that it didn't affect us. Today's crappy new world is tomorrow's "Golden Age".
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I respectfully disagree. We may have had some of these items mentioned, but it was never as prevalent back in the 50's and 60's.

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
 
hollydolly said:
well I miss people being polite. I miss people not attacking each other with knives and guns.. I miss people not being snowflakes and taking offence over everything.. and I miss the crime level not being as high as it is, and I miss the police fighting crime...
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London? Knives and guns, taking offense at everything, crime, and police with one arm tied behind their back? Yikes! You just described Big City USA.
 
oldman said:
I respectfully disagree. We may have had some of these items mentioned, but it was never as prevalent back in the 50's and 60's.

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
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Are you forgetting the Korean War, that little war in French Viet Nam, "WWIII "over the Suez Canal. The Red Scare. Israeli/Arab wars, the breakup of the British Empire. the six month 1958 labor strike, race riots, polio, "juvenile delinquency", car theft, and of course nobody was murdered during the 50/60s. I think we look back with thick rose colored glasses. If you look at the pic squatting dog posted, it's not a real pic, it looks like a painting. That is not a true representation of the 1950s. Does it show the kid getting measles, getting his bike stolen, breaking his leg, being late for school, etc?
In the 50s/60s, we were kids and didn't know or understand what was going on. We were sheltered by our age and our parents.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Are you forgetting the Korean War, that little war in French Viet Nam, "WWIII "over the Suez Canal. The Red Scare. Israeli/Arab wars, the breakup of the British Empire. the six month 1958 labor strike, race riots, polio, "juvenile delinquency", car theft, and of course nobody was murdered during the 50/60s. I think we look back with thick rose colored glasses. If you look at the pic squatting dog posted, it's not a real pic, it looks like a painting. That is not a true representation of the 1950s. Does it show the kid getting measles, getting his bike stolen, breaking his leg, being late for school, etc?
In the 50s/60s, we were kids and didn't know or understand what was going on. We were sheltered by our age and our parents.
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Does it show Emmett Till being lynched?
 
I miss the Canada I used to know. I mean the times when I was a kid. That was the time before the present craze of digging up 100 year old graves and pointing figures at dead people. That was the time before our leader promised us "sunny ways" if we voted for him. That was the time we were forever arguing how to label our toilets so that they were all inclusive. (Men/women is now not go enough). That was a time when politicians were not shamed for not attending and supporting Pride Month. It was a time when statues of our founding leader were not painted with red paint or pushed over and broken. It was a time when the newspaper came once/week and everyone believed what was written. It was a time when CBC was the only channel on TV rather than the hundreds we have now. It was a time no one heard of robocalls, 24 hour news, 7 minutes of advertising on TV, zombie like people walking and starring at their smartphones, TV broadcasters did not have to be "colour balanced" and no one heard of shopping on Sunday.

Oh ya, there were bad things too but hey, I don't miss those. LOL
 

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I think when things get really bad people might start to try to stop climate change getting worse. Might be too late, but considering how some people want to go try to live on the moon and Mars, there will be some people who will adapt to a hotter lower-oxygen climate, or if the ocean current stops, then perhaps Canadians, Americans and Europeans will somehow survive in a glacial ice-age environment.
Didn't we go down bad paths in the past and then manage to change direction - like when I was young there was a lot of smog and air pollution but eventually (thanks I guess to the oldest baby boomers?) we got the air fixed.
I am really worried about the bugs tho, I thought it was only in Nebraska that they started using different pesticides that killed off all my bugs back home, but I drove from Ohio to New York yesterday and only one bug hit my windshield, I am really shocked (and worried for the bugs).
 
Think most of us were so busy keeping body and soul together, we didn't even know or see much beyond our limited area. With only 3 tv channels and no internet, we didn't have news screaming at us 24/7. Not hard to be nostalgic about that.

Now, well...think I'll go on down to the gas station & have myself a soda pop...then go on over to Thelma Lou's and watch some tv.
 
Why is it that when anyone complains about things deteriorating, they are made to feel guilty? In many ways, life WAS better in the past. Think of the problems around today which were rare in the past. The very fact that suicide is so common now indicates the feeling of hopelessness which many people feel today.
 
I think it is quite natural to long for the old days, people always have. Childhood and early memories can be very comforting. I feel the same.

However objectively looking at my world the only thing I see that really is worse is the population density, too many people. That makes enjoying a lot of the outdoor things I like a bit harder, and of course adds to our environmental impact.

Otherwise I think things are probably mostly better now. Not everything, but more than not.
 
Lavinia said:
Why is it that when anyone complains about things deteriorating, they are made to feel guilty? In many ways, life WAS better in the past. Think of the problems around today which were rare in the past. The very fact that suicide is so common now indicates the feeling of hopelessness which many people feel today.
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Guess you missed the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs; we all were very worried about a nuclear way breaking out...When I was in high school, we had two classmates commit suicide, one was our high school football quarterback the other was my girlfriend's brother. I am sure there were others, but it was not unusual back then at all. Humans tend to forget bad things that happen in time, yet we also remember good things that happen. This leads to each generation favoring the past of the current day.... but it may not be true!
 
Hope this fits with bringing back America.
Law enforcement needs their power back.
We need to reinforce their liability shield again.
We have to stand behind law enforcement,
take back our streets from the drug addicts.
We have to prosecute crimes.
We have to keep hope in our hearts that
America will come back.
Things are so bad that we want to give up
on our nation, but we can't.
We have to protect ALL our people from
lawlessness. Fund police. Protect them.
Those of us that remember how great
America used to be, have to keep trying,
if not for us, for future generations.
Don't ya think?
 
Lavinia said:
The very fact that suicide is so common now indicates the feeling of hopelessness which many people feel today.
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Suicide is awful, and I agree it often comes from a feeling of hopelessness.

However it is not more common today that historically, here is a link to a good article on suicide in your neck of the woods:
Suicide in England and Wales 1861–2007: a time-trends analysis

In reality suicide is probably going down more than the statistics indicate. I think historically it was more common and easier to hide suicide as the cause of death.
 
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Timewise 60+ said:
Guess you missed the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs; we all were very worried about a nuclear way breaking out...When I was in high school, we had two classmates commit suicide, one was our high school football quarterback the other was my girlfriend's brother. I am sure there were others, but it was not unusual back then at all. Humans tend to forget bad things that happen in time, yet we also remember good things that happen. This leads to each generation favoring the past of the current day.... but it may not be true!
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We're in England.. the Cuban Crisis or the Bay of pigs had nothing to do with us in the UK... plus we were little children in '62...
 
hollydolly said:
We're in England.. the Cuban Crisis or the Bay of pigs had nothing to do with us in the UK... plus we were little children in '62...
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If the crisis had started a nuclear war I think the UK would likely have been targeted. I remember the missile crisis very well, I was 10, probably 2 years older than you. However I was in Florida and we were pretty sure we were at the top of the target list.

We even practiced emergency evacuations from school to home to be ready in the event of an invasion. Everyone who could was putting a fallout shelter in their yards. It was a stressful time. Hard to say how close we really got to a nuclear exchange, but at the time it felt quite close.
 

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