Are All Men Looky-Loos?

Lavinia said:
Men are so weak they cannot control themselves....even the sight of a woman's hair is enough to make them lose it.
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Yes, I guess that's what St. Paul had in mind when he said women should cover their hair in church.

Which reminds me. My sister-in-law belongs to a Christian dance group. A group of pretty young women, wear their white silky dresses and dance at the front of the Church. I feel like a jerk suspecting that some of the men in the congregation might be thinking unchristian thoughts.

What do you wise ones think?
 
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Question for the women. Do you approve or disapprove of men looking at you?
Is it true women always knows where a man's eyes are?
 
Alligatorob said:
Not the case in Saudi Arabia! In the time I spent there I could tell nothing about what a woman in a full burqa looked like underneath, nothing but maybe height... Couldn't tell an 80 year old from 18.

Some of the guys I worked with called them walking garbage bags, I didn't but did get their point.

Be grateful most women can choose more revealing clothing, not hard.
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While i can't imagine actual Muslim men being this outspoken with their 'lascivious' thoughts in a public place, this Key & Peele skit makes a point that being males, they'd be visual too and find something to fetishize over. And in a way it pokes fun at men anywhere in the world that make just walking down a public street a challenge for women sometimes. (So glad to old enough to be subjected to it anymore.)

This comic duo always been outrageous and danced around the border of funny and offensive. So apologies in advance.

 
Della said:
Yes, I guess that's what St. Paul had in mind when he said women should cover their hair in church.

Which reminds me. My sister-in-law belongs to a Christian dance group. A group of pretty young women, wear their white silky dresses and dance at the front of the Church. I feel like a jerk suspecting that some of the men in the congregation might be thinking unchristian thoughts.

What do you wise ones think?
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i'd be curious to know who picked that design for their costumes. While they are not that provocative as dance costume go, i wouldn't expect this in any mainstream type church, temple etc.
 
feywon said:
And in a way it pokes fun at men anywhere in the world that make just walking down a public street a challenge for women sometimes. (So glad to old enough to be subjected to it anymore.)
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Yes! About ten years ago I told a friend that I couldn't wait to actually look my age because then I wouldn't be harassed when walking down the street. She, being an extrovert and very flirtatious, was amazed that I didn't like being objectified that way. I do understand that men are wired to look, but what I objected to was comments and catcalls when I walked by.

 
carouselsilver said:
Yes! About ten years ago I told a friend that I couldn't wait to actually look my age because then I wouldn't be harassed when walking down the street. She, being an extrovert and very flirtatious, was amazed that I didn't like being objectified that way. I do understand that men are wired to look, but what I objected to was comments and catcalls when I walked by.
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Me, too...especially when they are in packs, it emboldens them. Have had a couple of hairy incidents over the decades. Including once in NYC where a man broke from a pack under store lights at a corner (i was on way home from 2nd shift job) and came towards me. He was clearly drunk, so i gave benefit of doubt the first time he shifted direction to be heading straight for me. But when i stepped to side and he did too, blocking my path, barely a 12-18 inches from me, i looked him dead in the eyes and said in a calm, firm voice "Get the hell out of my way!". To my surprise and relief he did. His companions laughed, but as i got close to the corner they moved closer to the storefront and made no eye contact with me. i was 19-20 yrs old at the time.
 
carouselsilver said:
Yes! About ten years ago I told a friend that I couldn't wait to actually look my age because then I wouldn't be harassed when walking down the street. She, being an extrovert and very flirtatious, was amazed that I didn't like being objectified that way. I do understand that men are wired to look, but what I objected to was comments and catcalls when I walked by.
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They were just publisizing their single digit IQs in case that would give them an edge.
 
I worked in the Pentagon's credit union for years and I felt like all 10,000 regulars were my customers, so I spoke and smiled to everyone. One day I passed an area of construction work and heard a man say something to me so I stopped and said I was sorry I hadn't quite heard what he said. He turned read and told me he had said, "It must be nice." I have a feeling it was much worse than that.
 
As @Nathan said previously, we're hard wired. And women of child-bearing age are hard wired to encourage it. If instead our ancestors had evolved to ignore each other we wouldn't be here. The pool would have evaporated long ago. Men never lose interest as long as we still have viable sperm - and many of us even after. Post-menopausal women drop out of the competition simply because they're more useful as grandmothers helping their daughters ensure their offspring survive. This doesn't excuse rude behavior. Although rude behavior is in the eye of the beholder. Men try to impress each other with braggadocio that to women may seem rude. We eventually learn that courtesy and respect are more effective to attain our objective.
 
Alligatorob said:
Yep, that's pretty much all that saved me!

Once when bored a few of us decided to try and sneak into a woman only beach. Saudi women can swim, but still have to be wearing the full burqa. Apparently the religious police didn't approve of our attempt at attending the wet burqa show and ran us off.

Not at all, enjoy yourself girl!
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Amen!
 
Alligatorob said:
Not the case in Saudi Arabia! In the time I spent there I could tell nothing about what a woman in a full burqa looked like underneath, nothing but maybe height... Couldn't tell an 80 year old from 18.
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guinness.jpg

Back in the 70's, when I was doing some work for
Zamil bin Wotsit, never could get my tongue around
his name, we called the Arab women who wore the
traditional black, long gown called: the abaya,
Guinness Bottles.
 
feywon said:
i'd be curious to know who picked that design for their costumes. While they are not that provocative as dance costume go, i wouldn't expect this in any mainstream type church, temple etc.
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They remind me of Graecian dresses.... attractive but not really appropriate for church.
 
I somehow feel I should have a lot to say about the thread topic, but feel reluctant as I've said it all before unfortunately.

What a fix to be in,......, I think I once posted a few photographs of fine examples, so I've even done that,.........., but then again another look wouldn't harm I suppose, (as it happens I'm quite put off by all the posing, expressions, and bulges in most examples, so here is an innocent looking "sweet as apple pie one"!):


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carouselsilver said:
About ten years ago I told a friend that I couldn't wait to actually look my age because then I wouldn't be harassed when walking down the street.
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Looking your age doesn't mean you don't look good, and won't be looked at.
carouselsilver said:
I do understand that men are wired to look, but what I objected to was comments and catcalls when I walked by.
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Understandable, that is not good behavior. I know it happens, but I don't think most men do that, not to strangers.

I look a lot, but have never commented or catcalled, except to women I knew well and was sure they would take it well.
 
StillLearning said:
My grandmother described how they would rip out the stitching on the hem of skirts to scrub because they would get so dirty getting dragged in dirt. Then re-hem. Then there were the fingerless gloves and also never leave house without your sun bonnet. What would they think of us now? 🤣
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Around half of them would think they'd gone to Heaven. And probably all but the slowest of the other half would run to the nearest Nordstrom or whatever.
 
Nathan said:
The women's fashion designers have capitalized on that trait, for a long time.
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Exactly ! A sizable percentage of women wear tight fitting/revealing clothing. Around here, many, many women wear pants so tight, it looks as if they have been melted and poured into their pants. To say nothing about low cut revealing blouses.
 
Had only previously heard the term "looky-loos" a few times on radio traffic reports as another slang term for rubber neckers, those inconsiderate curious drivers that cannot resist driving slowly past anything along roads like accidents, police vehicles, and anything else that backs up traffic. Like when they reach an annoying highway bottleneck, they cause the bottleneck to continue for everyone behind them they apparently don't care about. So as someone not on any post smartphone social media where such is likely rampant, looked the slang term up and notice like many who think using such terms is socially cool, they are also quick to co-opt use in other ways never intended.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lookie-loo
US, informal + often disparaging
: a person who looks at something: such as a : a person who goes somewhere or stops to look at something (such as the scene of an accident) : an intrusively curious onlooker —usually plural

So in @SandyR 's OP case, NO, not all men behave like looky-loos. Responses have obviously broadened the OP's meaning to enjoying looking at women in all ways. There is a difference between a man looking at a physically attractive woman in an acceptable way and the way many men will habitually gawk, ogle, grinning like some yokel, in more physical ways.

I personally have always enjoyed looking at attractive women but learned growing up going to K12 schools there are ways socially to do so reasonably with a smile and others that are not without coming off as a !@#$. That noted, it is true as a teen and young adult lost in a rapidly changing cultural revolution of the 60s/70s era that I sometime adopted the crude and rude dark side. That was especially true while in the military that is a moral cesspool. Am not a fan of current societal morals while also being over decades, a "Live and Let Live" person for those who are free to choose otherwise. As one of the minority that over decades now that never looks at any pornography in any media, I also never view any web pages of all those celebrities in this era that are constantly showing off parts of their anatomy.
 
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