Love this song! Good post, @grahamg!
How right you are,......,!!!!@grahamg somebody should make a movie of your life.
My old boss said 99% of men are followers of women so what does that tell you!(?).
I'll do you a deal if you like(?).
Umm ... that your old boss said 99% of men are followers of women?My old boss said 99% of men are followers of women so what does that tell you!(?).
unless I missed something of course 
Believe me, they do examine each other, especially in grad school. I took some upper level psych courses, and you couldn't have a afternoon coffee klatch with the psych department without someone trying to nail someone else with a disorder of one kind or another. That should have been examined in the book, Games People Play, and it sort of was. Basically, the book just points out in layman's terms, some of the stupid things people do with each other. The book was insightful and fun. It's more in the genre of pop psychology, but some of the games described can be socially destructive if carried to an extreme. The book was popular at the time, and useful if one takes the time to ask how any of the games apply to themselves. If all you do is point out the games of others, it's probably mostly useless. IMO
Well yes, but as an answer to whether men at least might be all or nearly all sheep it could just be indicating "there is more afoot than you've assumed here sweetie"!Umm ... that your old boss said 99% of men are followers of women?
Indeed it could or, equally, it could indicate that your old boss merely had an opinion which he unilaterally decided to attribute to 99% of men.Well yes, but as an answer to whether men at least might be all or nearly all sheep it could just be indicating "there is more afoot than you've assumed here sweetie"!
Blimey @Been There - how did you survive that relationship for 3 months?
Other than being controlling, she was fun to be with. We had some really good times together. After 3 months, I had enough and decided to call it quits.
You would have been very brave, or very foolish to have chosen to argue with my old boss, (or both in equal measure perhaps), so astute was he, and forceful a character. Obviously I'm biased when considering his mental attributes and abilities, as within the first weeks of him employing me I was taken to one side and he chose to tell me how much he liked me, or liked how straight I was being with him, (something he demanded from everyone you could say, or at least quickly sussed out those who thought they could get away with lying to him).Indeed it could or, equally, it could indicate that your old boss merely had an opinion which he unilaterally decided to attribute to 99% of men.
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You would have been very brave, or very foolish to have chosen to argue with my old boss, (or both in equal measure perhaps), so astute was he, and forceful a character. Obviously I'm biased when considering his mental attributes and abilities, as within the first weeks of him employing me I was taken to one side and he chose to tell me how much he liked me, or liked how straight I was being with him, (something he demanded from everyone you could say, or at least quickly sussed out those who thought they could get away with lying to him).
So, are 99% of me largely followers of women,..., should we ask the men or women this question I wonder, (I'd say I fitted into the category of "follower of women", certainly ahead of any "pretensions of my being a leader of men"!
I'm sure you're not a follower of men either, so that bit of the equation works too doesn't it.
This boss I'm going on about was wise enough to know that when his fellow directors all disagreed with him he should listen, and not pursue the path he'd intended to follow, even though as sole owner of the company he was in a position to overrule them, (and yet at the same time, it was foolish to try to kid yourself you understood human nature better than he about leadership qualities in men etc.).I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your ex boss although, If he were that astute and genuinely liked people who were straight with him, I'd have thought he wouldn't have a problem with the idea that his opinion is his alone unless, of course, he could actually prove otherwise. And you are correct, I follow no one
More fool them
I do think my old boss had something wise to impart, (certainly to make you think at least, and it would be fair wouldn't it, to say that very few men are cut out for leadership roles of any kind?).More fool them
On another note and, not intended as a put down but more just an observation, it would be good to know what you think rather than what you read somewhere or what your friends, family members and acquaintances think. It's like those people who always back themselves up by claiming that a friend of a friend's auntie knew someone who knew someone who in turn knew someone else who's cousin's cousin knew someone who once met someone who knew someone else who knew for a fact that .....
I do think my old boss had something wise to impart, (certainly to make you think at least, and it would be fair wouldn't it, to say that very few men are cut out for leadership roles of any kind?).
My thinking is just that, and really no attempt to hide my thoughts. I never thought myself a leader, though I managed a smallish group of staff for about ten years, with very good back up from the managers above, and though they appreciated my shortcomings, and coached me to try to improve, it was never my forte, (not least because I found management quite stressful).
Now as far as whether women look for men who make them feel secure goes, I'm afraid I have to tell you once again this isn't my insight, or my pretence at knowing anything others are not aware of, it is simply the "wisdom" imparted to me by my lawyers when I went through divorce proceedings. They must encounter all kinds of people whilst doing their line of work, and get all kinds of training during their law degrees etc., and this is simply their opinion, and one supposes what the UK family courts believe too.
Good discussion anyway, even if my thoughts, or the things I've been told are all baloney!
In the UK the courts in Scotland have a measure of independence, and it was said back in the 1980s that judges trying cases where the mother was obstructing contact with the father would much more often find against the mothers, assuming their actions were motivated by reasons other than good ones, (again or so I was told).Nope, I don't think it would be fair at all to say that very few men are cut out for leadership roles of any kind.
The "wisdom" of lawyers made me smile. I have worked with solicitors and barristers and whilst knowledgeable in their field, I have never thought they were any wiser than any other person when it came to life or anything else out of their field of expertise in fact, I have thought many were remarkably blinkered.
Not baloney at all, your thoughts are as valid as anyone else's, I just happen not to agree with everything you write but that, of course, is no reflection on you or your experiences
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In the UK the courts in Scotland have a measure of independence, and it was said back in the 1980s that judges trying cases where the mother was obstructing contact with the father would much more often find against the mothers, assuming their actions were motivated by reasons other than good ones, (again or so I was told).
It is difficult to stick your neck out so far as to assume the courts, and he judges lack wisdom altogether though isn't it, or greater wisdom than most in general, otherwise any fool could sit in judgement, and behave however they might choose to behave without any consequences. I admit though that when you take part in proceedings you hope for a "good judge", meaning someone prepared to make decisions rather than simply follow court reports sent to them by so called experts, (such as court welfare officers, who are now called CAFCASS officers here, and have a very poor reputation indeed).
My thoughts aren't all baloney you say, (surely there are many who would disagree with you there!!!
I have a friend who is a retired High Court judge, (someone I only know through attending a local church you understand, so perhaps an acquaintance would be a better description, though he kindly gave me a character reference, (my having known him and his wife for about twenty years)."... assume the courts, and he judges lack wisdom altogether though isn't it" Yes it is and I didn't actually suggest that although I can see why you may have thought it implied. My own experience is that being an expert in one field does not mean you are any wiser on matters outside of your expertise and this is true in the legal professional as much as it is anywhere else.
"any fool could sit in judgement" Yep, and many do unfortunately
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OMG! Now you are bringing out the big guns - a learned High Court judge no less! You are mistaken though, I trust my own judgment, first and foremost and, if I am wrong, I will only have myself to blameI have a friend who is a retired High Court judge, (someone I only know through attending a local church you understand, so perhaps an acquaintance would be a better description, though he kindly gave me a character reference, (my having known him and his wife for about twenty years).
He is a "learned man", very nice in his manner, and his wife is a stalwart in our village, and he supports as much as he is now able. He is a cut above, and though of course he'll have his weaknesses in terms of knowledge, you'd have to back his judgement on human nature over your own I feel.
One of his opinions of the people who came before him while he was on the bench, sitting in judgement on them, was that most people who came before him, when it came to the last analysis, did behave honestly, (strange to mention that in a thread about "deception" but it was his view, and I suppose if you know you're unlikely to get away with pulling the wool over his eyes, and there are consequences if you try such as contempt of court charges, then maybe he is right?).
I doubt however he'd accept your statement indicating you believe there are many judges who are fools, (you did say that didn't you "m'lady"
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Lucky man that fella of yours, hope he enjoyed the coffee and cake!OMG! Now you are bringing out the big guns - a learned High Court judge no less! You are mistaken though, I trust my own judgment, first and foremost and, if I am wrong, I will only have myself to blame
I said: "Yep, and many do unfortunately
Anyways, the master has returned and is demanding my presence in the kitchen where, apparently, coffee and cake await my urgent attention. I must be a saint to put up with this life
