Need help... to drive and stay through the surgery

AllAlone

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I need outpatient surgery to have plates and screws put in my foot. My surgery was cancelled because I didn't have anyone to wait during the surgery. Medi-van transportation to and from the surgery center wasn't good enough. They need to know I have someone to stay with me for the next 24 hrs.
I have no family left, I don't belong to a church. I'm an introvert and my limited friend group is unable or unwilling to help. What do people do??? What can I do, just wait until I can't walk anymore and get a wheelchair? Getting old really sucks!
 

I need outpatient surgery to have plates and screws put in my foot. My surgery was cancelled because I didn't have anyone to wait during the surgery. Medi-van transportation to and from the surgery center wasn't good enough. They need to know I have someone to stay with me for the next 24 hrs.
I have no family left, I don't belong to a church. I'm an introvert and my limited friend group is unable or unwilling to help. What do people do??? What can I do, just wait until I can't walk anymore and get a wheelchair? Getting old really sucks!
Call your insurance provider, or doctor and see if they can spare someone. Caregivers, there are people who get paid to stay with people like you and help around the house, drive you to the doctor, etc. Inquire about those kind of helping people.
 
I know how you feel, I am like you and dont have many people, I ended up having to take someone who I cant stand. But ya they def will not let you have surgery if you come alone. They really need to change that policy. These surgeries are vital.
 

Another forum member had a very similar problem. If I needed surgery, I'd have the same problem. I had this problem when I registered my daughter for school and needed to list an emergency contact.

I guess the only thing to do is lie and say someone is waiting for you. That lets the doctor/hospital off the hook so they don't get sued.

There are people who do odd jobs of various kinds. You can hire someone to wait for you, or to come in and pick you up when you're done (and then disappear as soon as you're out of the building). If they're asked to sign something, they can refuse.
 
Perhaps a home health agency for a day. That person would not need to stay with you, just get you home. I find this is discriminatory. These places do not realize that not everyone has help. It makes me angry. Anyone you could pay for the service to drive you to, wait and drive you home from the surgery.

I went through this with my cataract surgery and it's to protect the business. They really care nothing about you.
 
Call your insurance provider, or doctor and see if they can spare someone. Caregivers, there are people who get paid to stay with people like you and help around the house, drive you to the doctor, etc. Inquire about those kind of helping people.
Around here anyway, the insurance providers and doctors don't do that at all; I think the ones around here would be stunned if you asked. You might try any kind of seniors center if you're lucky enough to have one nearby--I'm not--or if you have a local Area Agency on Aging/Passages near you. Good luck. This is such a problem for seniors who live alone and there are more and more in that situation; seems like doctors and insurances should wake up to that fact and start some kind of program of dealing with that, i.e. a list of background-checked individuals who do it for reasonable pay.
 
Agree. I have no family anywhere nearby. Thankfully my neighbor has assured me that she will help and she has if it is imperative I have someone transport and be with me but I try not to ask her unless absolutely necessary. There are several private pay care agencies in town and my future plan should it be necessary is to hire someone for a day or two. My big concern if I end up in the hospital is my dog.
 
Once you are able to get the surgery I don't believe the hospital can force you to stay. Do you think you'd be able to walk out and get into an Uber or taxi? If so that might be an option. Of course you don't want to do anything that is actually dangerous.

Here is some advice that might help:

The Discharge Process

Can I be kept in the hospital against my will? No. The hospital can be liable for "false imprisonment" if hospital officials attempt to prevent you from leaving. You should discuss your condition and reasons for wanting to leave with your physician before leaving.

Can the hospital require that my bill be paid or that arrangements for payment be made before I am discharged? No. If you physician says you are medically ready to leave, the hospital must discharge you. If you decide to leave without your physician's approval, the hospital still must let you go.

What happens if I try to leave the hospital on my own? The hospital administrator and nurses will urge you to stay because they have a duty to attempt to make you follow medical advice. If you insist on leaving, they will usually ask you to sign an against-medical-advice (AMA) form.

What is an against-medical-advice form? This form states that you have left the hospital against the advice of your physician. It also states that you release the hospital and physicians from any liability for injuries caused by leaving the hospital.

Must I sign this form? No.

Should I sign this form? No. You should prepare a letter explaining why you are leaving the hospital. You should keep a copy of this letter, and you should give a copy to the hospital administrator.


https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/books/aspen/Aspen-The-15.html
 
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Agree. I have no family anywhere nearby. Thankfully my neighbor has assured me that she will help and she has if it is imperative I have someone transport and be with me but I try not to ask her unless absolutely necessary. There are several private pay care agencies in town and my future plan should it be necessary is to hire someone for a day or two. My big concern if I end up in the hospital is my dog.
In our area you could call animal control, they can/will get your dog, take it to the “pound” and change you a daily fee. Otherwise the management at the apartment could get the dog and take it to a boarding facility for you.
 
Once you are able to get the surgery I don't believe the hospital can force you to stay. Do you think you'd be able to walk out and get into an Uber or taxi? I so that might be an option. Of course you don't want to do anything that is actually dangerous.

Here is some advice that might help:

The Discharge Process

Can I be kept in the hospital against my will? No. The hospital can be liable for "false imprisonment" if hospital officials attempt to prevent you from leaving. You should discuss your condition and reasons for wanting to leave with your physician before leaving.

Can the hospital require that my bill be paid or that arrangements for payment be made before I am discharged? No. If you physician says you are medically ready to leave, the hospital must discharge you. If you decide to leave without your physician's approval, the hospital still must let you go.

What happens if I try to leave the hospital on my own? The hospital administrator and nurses will urge you to stay because they have a duty to attempt to make you follow medical advice. If you insist on leaving, they will usually ask you to sign an against-medical-advice (AMA) form.

What is an against-medical-advice form? This form states that you have left the hospital against the advice of your physician. It also states that you release the hospital and physicians from any liability for injuries caused by leaving the hospital.

Must I sign this form? No.

Should I sign this form? No. You should prepare a letter explaining why you are leaving the hospital. You should keep a copy of this letter, and you should give a copy to the hospital administrator.


https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/books/aspen/Aspen-The-15.html
Good advice, but around here, if you show up before the procedure without a person who's going to stay with you after, they won't even do the procedure.
 
Call your insurance provider, or doctor and see if they can spare someone. Caregivers, there are people who get paid to stay with people like you and help around the house, drive you to the doctor, etc. Inquire about those kind of helping people.

Once you are able to get the surgery I don't believe the hospital can force you to stay. Do you think you'd be able to walk out and get into an Uber or taxi? If so that might be an option. Of course you don't want to do anything that is actually dangerous.

Here is some advice that might help:

The Discharge Process

Can I be kept in the hospital against my will? No. The hospital can be liable for "false imprisonment" if hospital officials attempt to prevent you from leaving. You should discuss your condition and reasons for wanting to leave with your physician before leaving.

Can the hospital require that my bill be paid or that arrangements for payment be made before I am discharged? No. If you physician says you are medically ready to leave, the hospital must discharge you. If you decide to leave without your physician's approval, the hospital still must let you go.

What happens if I try to leave the hospital on my own? The hospital administrator and nurses will urge you to stay because they have a duty to attempt to make you follow medical advice. If you insist on leaving, they will usually ask you to sign an against-medical-advice (AMA) form.

What is an against-medical-advice form? This form states that you have left the hospital against the advice of your physician. It also states that you release the hospital and physicians from any liability for injuries caused by leaving the hospital.

Must I sign this form? No.

Should I sign this form? No. You should prepare a letter explaining why you are leaving the hospital. You should keep a copy of this letter, and you should give a copy to the hospital administrator.


https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/books/aspen/Aspen-The-15.html
This doesn't apply in my case as they do the surgery in an outpatient surgery center independent of the hospital.
However, this is great information on our rights and to protect ourselves!

People also need to know how to protect themselves from insurance companies! I've had a couple insurance companies really do me dirty. The first one got away with it, but I learned and the second company didn't.

I had a major surgery and the bill came to a hair under $100,000. I had paid the out of pocket maximum for the year so Blue Cross was to cover it 100%. Blue Cross sent me a letter stating they were only going to pay 50% of the bill and no explanation given.

Before calling Blue Cross, I reviewed the policy carefully and set up a tape recorder. I called and got a hold of management. They came up with a number of unjustified excuses. I was able to counter every excuse, reading from the policy to support my position. Finally, she ran out of excuses and out of frustration started going off the wall and being just being ridiculous. Finally I let her know I was recording the call. That stopped her in her tracts and suddenly she was going to check into the matter further.

The very next day I received an email saying they were covering 100% of the bill! Many people don't realize that it is legal to record a call and it can be used in court in the majority of states. There are only 11 states, all in the west, where recording is illegal. This certainly saved me a lot of money, time and frustration.

I wonder how often insurance companies get away with wrongfully denying claims. Probably far to often as what recourse do we have?
 
Call your insurance provider, or doctor and see if they can spare someone. Caregivers, there are people who get paid to stay with people like you and help around the house, drive you to the doctor, etc. Inquire about those kind of helping people.
Thank you for your help. This can be a real dilemma. The doctor's office had no suggestions whatsoever, they were only concerned with the fact that I inconvenienced them. Whenever I call my insurance company I always get this Asian screener who knows nothing and who will not transfer me to any department and if I insist she hangs up on me.

I did locate a website today that advertised that they will provide assistance for as little as 24 hrs. However, that is really just designed to get you to call and they try to upsell you to a week, 24/7, at $25-$30 per hour.
 
Another forum member had a very similar problem. If I needed surgery, I'd have the same problem. I had this problem when I registered my daughter for school and needed to list an emergency contact.

I guess the only thing to do is lie and say someone is waiting for you. That lets the doctor/hospital off the hook so they don't get sued.

There are people who do odd jobs of various kinds. You can hire someone to wait for you, or to come in and pick you up when you're done (and then disappear as soon as you're out of the building). If they're asked to sign something, they can refuse.

Around here anyway, the insurance providers and doctors don't do that at all; I think the ones around here would be stunned if you asked. You might try any kind of seniors center if you're lucky enough to have one nearby--I'm not--or if you have a local Area Agency on Aging/Passages near you. Good luck. This is such a problem for seniors who live alone and there are more and more in that situation; seems like doctors and insurances should wake up to that fact and start some kind of program of dealing with that, i.e. a list of background-checked individuals who do it for reasonable pay.
The insurance company and doctors are just the same here. I've already tried calling different agencies that are supposed to aid seniors but they fall short in this area too.
 
Another forum member had a very similar problem. If I needed surgery, I'd have the same problem. I had this problem when I registered my daughter for school and needed to list an emergency contact.

I guess the only thing to do is lie and say someone is waiting for you. That lets the doctor/hospital off the hook so they don't get sued.

There are people who do odd jobs of various kinds. You can hire someone to wait for you, or to come in and pick you up when you're done (and then disappear as soon as you're out of the building). If they're asked to sign something, they can refuse.
Interesting..when I read the OP I too thought if one can manage alone, why not lie and say you have someone to stay with you? I would...they do not check or ask for more info do they??
 
Just thought of this..and I am not a churchgoer..but what about calling a church and asking them to help? Maybe offer to pay at less a little if money is an issue. Or offer to give them something..like the old batter system did with goods for services....
 
Interesting..when I read the OP I too thought if one can manage alone, why not lie and say you have someone to stay with you? I would...they do not check or ask for more info do they??
Yes they do! They don't just take your word for it.
 


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