You live alone ? Do you keep a gun in your residence ?

I agree with you as well. The "limits" I'm proposing are a ban on all semiautomatic weapons.

De nada.
Good luck with that. It is estimated that there are over 20 million "AR" type long guns in the US, and God Only Knows how many hand guns, like my Glock, that would be considered "semiautomatic weapons". We can't keep drugs out of our prisons, so how successful would a ban be at keeping weapons off our streets??

I would also suggest you wait 40 or 50 years before you try to get it past SCOTUS.
 

Good luck with that. It is estimated that there are over 20 million "AR" type long guns in the US, and God Only Knows how many hand guns, like my Glock, that would be considered "semiautomatic weapons". We can't keep drugs out of our prisons, so how successful would a ban be at keeping weapons off our streets??

I would also suggest you wait 40 or 50 years before you try to get it past SCOTUS.

I said it would never happen. That doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
 
Why not? Unless you give out your real name and addy, no one is going to figure who you are and where you are. The average punk is lucky if he knows how to type into a forum, much less hack into one for such info. Besides, the other methods for them getting guns is much easier. They know who sells stolen ones, they know someone without a record who will do what is called a "straw" purchase for them, plus gangs also rent out guns. Hacking is the last resource for getting a gun.

**Above is quote, below is my comment**

I believe some may not fear criminals being able to track them down but our own governments. You know the argument, govt. bans guns than back tracks anyone who ever admitted on forums that they own guns. Govt. then kicks in your door and takes your guns.

Could it happen? I suppose, not likely in the US anytime soon in my opinion.
 

I believe some may not fear criminals being able to track them down but our own governments. You know the argument, govt. bans guns than back tracks anyone who ever admitted on forums that they own guns. Govt. then kicks in your door and takes your guns.

Could it happen? I suppose, not likely in the US anytime soon in my opinion.
They have a hundred ways to find out who owns guns. They confiscate the sales receipts from gun shops. The find out the carry permit owners from state records. They check the stores for receipts of those who purchased ammo. The check the records of gun repair shops. There are endless ways for them to know who owns a gun. Mentioning it in a forum is truly meaningless. If they want to get you, they will.
 
Well, SCOTUS, back in 2008, confirmed that it is an individual right. (District of Columbia v Heller) and again in 2010 (McDonald v City of Chicago). The rulings acknowledged that there are limits, but that it is an individual right.

And as recent as 2022, SCOTUS struck down a 1913 NY law that denied the right to carry in public (New York Rifle and Pistol Association v Bruen).

You're welcome.
Funny how for some 200 years it was considered a collective right, but because of the radical SCOTUS justices, it is now an "individual right."

The Heller ruling was just the opinion of five out of nine of the justices. Had Kennedy ruled the other way, Heller would have been defeated. Four of the five who ruled in favor of Heller were/are religious nuts whose rulings are defined by their faith, which is a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment. We have the right to be free from government sponsored religion, yet that right has been tossed out the window, especially with the recent repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which was 100% based on religious beliefs.
 
Funny how for some 200 years it was considered a collective right, but because of the radical SCOTUS justices, it is now an "individual right."

The Heller ruling was just the opinion of five out of nine of the justices. Had Kennedy ruled the other way, Heller would have been defeated. Four of the five who ruled in favor of Heller were/are religious nuts whose rulings are defined by their faith, which is a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment. We have the right to be free from government sponsored religion, yet that right has been tossed out the window, especially with the recent repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which was 100% based on religious beliefs.
Well, certainly you know more than the folks on the Supreme Court about what our Founding Fathers meant when they said "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed". The rest of your little rant just shows your own _________.

The core holding in D.C. v. Heller is that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right intimately tied to the natural right of self-defense.

The Scalia majority invokes much historical material to support its finding that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to individuals; more precisely, Scalia asserts in the Court's opinion that the "people" to whom the Second Amendment right is accorded are the same "people" who enjoy First and Fourth Amendment protection: "' The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning. United States v. Sprague, 282 U.S. 716, 731 (1931); see also Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 188 (1824). Normal meaning may, of course, include an idiomatic meaning, but it excludes secret or technical meanings ... ."

In the mean time the law of the land is that the 2A is in fact an individual right. The end.
 
Well, certainly you know more than the folks on the Supreme Court about what our Founding Fathers meant when they said "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed". The rest of your little rant just shows your own _________.

The core holding in D.C. v. Heller is that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right intimately tied to the natural right of self-defense.

The Scalia majority invokes much historical material to support its finding that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to individuals; more precisely, Scalia asserts in the Court's opinion that the "people" to whom the Second Amendment right is accorded are the same "people" who enjoy First and Fourth Amendment protection: "' The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning. United States v. Sprague, 282 U.S. 716, 731 (1931); see also Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 188 (1824). Normal meaning may, of course, include an idiomatic meaning, but it excludes secret or technical meanings ... ."

In the mean time the law of the land is that the 2A is in fact an individual right. The end.
In a dissenting opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens stated that the court's judgment was "a strained and unpersuasive reading" which overturned longstanding precedent, and that the court had "bestowed a dramatic upheaval in the law".[53] Stevens also stated that the amendment was notable for the "omission of any statement of purpose related to the right to use firearms for hunting or personal self-defense" which was present in the Declarations of Rights of Pennsylvania and Vermont.[53]

The Stevens dissent seems to rest on four main points of disagreement: that the Founders would have made the individual right aspect of the Second Amendment express if that was what was intended; that the "militia" preamble and exact phrase "to keep and bear arms" demands the conclusion that the Second Amendment touches on state militia service only; that many lower courts' later "collective-right" reading of the Miller decision constitutes stare decisis, which may only be overturned at great peril; and that the Court has not considered gun-control laws (e.g., the National Firearms Act) unconstitutional. The dissent concludes, "The Court would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons.... I could not possibly conclude that the Framers made such a choice."

And Stevens wasn't some bleeding heart liberal. He was nominated by Gerald Ford.

Scalia's interpretation was based purely on conjecture and emotion, devoid of logic.
 
The idea of owning and carrying a concealed gun has already been to the Supreme Court. You weren't paying attention. We won!
A concealed gun would be for personal protection and seems fine to me, but conservative though I am I have a problem with assault rifles, bump stocks, and full automatics that are a little over the top for personal protection and obviously well suited for killing large numbers of people, whether a crowd of merry makers, demonstrators, or a bunch of school children.
 
The "corner store" does not sell guns. It takes a specific license to do so.

Draw the line because of the efficiency with which a gun kills and how many it can kill? Before you take away my "efficient" weapon of self defense, take away all those belonging to criminals who will ignore any law saying such are illegal. The way it is today, the criminals should not have any guns to start with, but they do. Your "laws" are worthless in regard to scum owning guns. They will only insure the disarmament of the honest population.

If the powers-that-be did their job, very few criminals would have guns, and the number of honest citizen who feels they need a gim would drop.

The real solution is to imprison the scum for looong periods of time after a 2nd felony conviction.
I completely agree with you on the importance of real law enforcement — Completely! Unfortunately those assault rifles and bump stocks may be intended for the law abiding but they can easily wind up in the hands of loons and criminals.
 
I completely agree with you on the importance of real law enforcement — Completely! Unfortunately those assault rifles and bump stocks may be intended for the law abiding but they can easily wind up in the hands of loons and criminals.
As can anything.
 
Very true, but if assault rifles and bump stocks were illegal and the law enforced maybe it would be tougher for the loons and criminals to lay their hands on them.
Reality: It's way too late. Thousands of them are already in the hands of loons & criminals. Most are untraceable.
 
I completely agree with you on the importance of real law enforcement — Completely! Unfortunately those assault rifles and bump stocks may be intended for the law abiding but they can easily wind up in the hands of loons and criminals.
So-called assault weapons were not "intended" for any distinct group. As it is now, the predators are using them in alarming numbers. It has gotten to the point where the home owner needs the same type of weapon to offset the criminals deadlier advantage. Hand guns have nowhere near the stopping power of a rifle bullet, nor the penetration power to go through doors, or even a wall. In a deadly home invasion it is necessary for the perpetrators to realize they may not have the advantage they thought they had. Seeing their cohorts dropping wounded or dead could change their minds in a hurry. These days the police, or what is left of them due to their lessened ranks, can take a long time in showing up.
 
So-called assault weapons were not "intended" for any distinct group. As it is now, the predators are using them in alarming numbers. It has gotten to the point where the home owner needs the same type of weapon to offset the criminals deadlier advantage. Hand guns have nowhere near the stopping power of a rifle bullet, nor the penetration power to go through doors, or even a wall. In a deadly home invasion it is necessary for the perpetrators to realize they may not have the advantage they thought they had. Seeing their cohorts dropping wounded or dead could change their minds in a hurry. These days the police, or what is left of them due to their lessened ranks, can take a long time in showing up.
Bingo. And nothing less would have saved this homeowner who faced multiple armed assailants:

Or this one:
 
They have a hundred ways to find out who owns guns. They confiscate the sales receipts from gun shops. The find out the carry permit owners from state records. They check the stores for receipts of those who purchased ammo. The check the records of gun repair shops. There are endless ways for them to know who owns a gun. Mentioning it in a forum is truly meaningless. If they want to get you, they will.

I agree 100%
 
Bingo. And nothing less would have saved this homeowner who faced multiple armed assailants:

Or this one:
Really amusing. Whenever I post these news items, NONE of the people who say "No one needs an assault rifle; they should be banned; people who need to defend themselves only need a shotgun or a 6-shot revolver" ever have a response.
It's like magic.........they just disappear. :ROFLMAO:
 
Really amusing. Whenever I post these news items, NONE of the people who say "No one needs an assault rifle; they should be banned; people who need to defend themselves only need a shotgun or a 6-shot revolver" ever have a response.
It's like magic.........they just disappear. :ROFLMAO:
If you would really like to be amused just do a search for “neighbor shot by stray bullet”. I quit counting after 50 hits. So scoff at shotguns, but after letting loose with a dozen rounds from your AR or bump stock try not to be amused while explaining to your neighbor why you killed his sleeping wife or kid.
 
If Rowe can be overturned so can the Scotus ruling. Not with the present scotus of course.
That's exactly right. The overturning of Roe sent us down a slippery slope. With these radical justices, we no longer have a separation of church and state. Religious zealots celebrate the banning of abortion, but it can go both ways. If the Constitutional right to abortion can be taken away, so can rights to worship freely.
 
If you would really like to be amused just do a search for “neighbor shot by stray bullet”. I quit counting after 50 hits. So scoff at shotguns, but after letting loose with a dozen rounds from your AR or bump stock try not to be amused while explaining to your neighbor why you killed his sleeping wife or kid.
Sorry to tell you, but I did google "neighbor shot by stray bullet" and I only looked at the first 8 or 9 hits, and all but one of them was a neighbor, outside, doing "target practice". The odd one was a kid shooting at a bird.

Didn't see any about a weapon being fired in self defense from inside one home harming a person in the house next door. If you have a specific incident in mind, please post a link.
 
Many a soap bubble has succumbed to my gun -

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And yes, I do in fact live alone. 🤡
 
If you would really like to be amused just do a search for “neighbor shot by stray bullet”. I quit counting after 50 hits. So scoff at shotguns, but after letting loose with a dozen rounds from your AR or bump stock try not to be amused while explaining to your neighbor why you killed his sleeping wife or kid.
Nice try, but I would only "let loose" with whatever is needed at the time. I have no use for a bump stock or fully auto. And my shots only go where they belong - which is into an intruder. I use frangible ammo that's unlikely to go through anything else.
Do you have the same criticism of police officers when they indiscriminately spray bullets & kill innocents?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...pd-rcna40163&usg=AOvVaw0zWwRSU-HW6v_sew7tsJTg

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...rs/12028016/&usg=AOvVaw3rtw6TXCYlCJQvnKDEBYZ0
 


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