Profanity In Films & Pandering to a Youthful & Black Audience

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I have no objection to profanity in films when it is used in realistic circumstances as such in real life, however I watched a couple of movies depicting WW 2 where the profanities that were used were not even common place in the 40's particularly among Caucasians. Do the screen writers feel they must do this to attract a black or more youthful audience?
 

Lon said:
I have no objection to profanity in films when it is used in realistic circumstances as such in real life, however I watched a couple of movies depicting WW 2 where the profanities that were used were not even common place in the 40's particularly among Caucasians. Do the screen writers feel they must do this to attract a black or more youthful audience?
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Sorry Lon I understand the question about possibly attracting a more youthful audience in films...which I agree is a great possibility as profanity seems second nature to so much of the youth today sadly, but how do Black people come into this any more than Caucasian, or Asian, or any other race or creed for that matter...? Not trying to cause an argument at all, but I'm genuinely perplexed
 
hollydolly said:
Sorry Lon I understand the question about possibly attracting a more youthful audience in films...which I agree is a great possibility as profanity seems second nature to so much of the youth today sadly, but how do Black people come into this any more than Caucasian, or Asian, or any other race or creed for that matter...? Not trying to cause an argument at all, but I'm genuinely perplexed
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I was thinking the same.. Are we to glean from the OP that Blacks use more profanity than other races?
 

hollydolly said:
Sorry Lon I understand the question about possibly attracting a more youthful audience in films...which I agree is a great possibility as profanity seems second nature to so much of the youth today sadly, but how do Black people come into this any more than Caucasian, or Asian, or any other race or creed for that matter...? Not trying to cause an argument at all, but I'm genuinely perplexed
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Agree with Holly. Lon, what are you insinuating about Blacks? :confused:
 
Never ceases to amaze me just how some people in society see other groups, I'm learning not to flinch, not even when reading post from members on this site. As usual the gift that keeps giving. Thank you ladies for point it out. :)
 
C'mon, Lon. Please explain. I think we're all guilty of stereotypical thinking now and then but we need to own up to it when we are.
 
I used to live down the street from an all girl... all white.. Catholic high school. OMD... the filthy language coming out to the mouths of these little princesses would make a sailor blush. (no offense to sailors) But these girls were loud.. and they were potty mouthed.. So I would say that perhaps the profanity in films these days is to attract the White female parochial school attendees.. lol!!
 
hollydolly said:
Sorry Lon I understand the question about possibly attracting a more youthful audience in films...which I agree is a great possibility as profanity seems second nature to so much of the youth today sadly, but how do Black people come into this any more than Caucasian, or Asian, or any other race or creed for that matter...? Not trying to cause an argument at all, but I'm genuinely perplexed
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The Black Community has developed their very own unique expressions and profanities that are very seldom if ever used by caucasians, more explicitly MOTHER -----R. I remember as a young teen ager growing up in Oakland California and hearing that profanity for the very first time. It was exclusively used among the blacks that I knew. BITCH is used quite differently among blacks than it is used by caucasians. This is not mean't to be a racist rant about black folk, just differences in culture.
 
Lon said:
The Black Community has developed their very own unique expressions and profanities that are very seldom if ever used by caucasians, more explicitly MOTHER -----R. I remember as a young teen ager growing up in Oakland California and hearing that profanity for the very first time. It was exclusively used among the blacks that I knew. BITCH is used quite differently among blacks than it is used by caucasians. This is not mean't to be a racist rant about black folk, just differences in culture.
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Are you kidding me? M-F er has been known to grace the lips of every race. And well... Bitch is pretty much universal..

There is a rule of thumb Lon... when you find yourself in a hole... it's really best to stop digging.
 
applecruncher said:
Agree with Holly. Lon, what are you insinuating about Blacks? :confused:
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I am not trying to insinuate any thing about Blacks and no, they don't use profanity any more than Hispanics Anglos, etc.
Each racial group and ethnic group has developed over the years their very own unique expressions and profanities. Would you grant me that?
 
QuickSilver said:
Are you kidding me? M-F er has been known to grace the lips of every race. And well... Bitch is pretty much universal..

There is a rule of thumb Lon... when you find yourself in a hole... it's really best to stop digging.
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You are wrong---------M-Fer certainly graces the lips of every race now, but it was not a commonly used profanity in the 19 40's and that my dear is the point I was trying to make. Don't try putting me in a hole.
 
Lon said:
With all due respect, you must be a bit thick if you don't fully understand my points and of course the black friends that I had in Oakland did not represent the entire "Black Community" in which I lived or the entire race.
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Ron, actually, you really shouldn't be calling anyone thick when you don't have a clue about how far back certain terms were used and from whom and when and where. There's conflict on the true origins dating back to slavery some say before dating back to Europe as well, but, I'd like to know where you get your facts other than from the limited numbers and types of people with in cultures you've come into contact with that shaped your views.
 
Well, to get back to the use of profanity in movies. I remember as a kid, a character would be in a desperate situation, maybe life and death and he would say "Gee Whiz, I hope those killers spare us. I hate those jerks." When "Shit! We're in bad F'ing shape, those bastard need some hot lead up their butts", might have been more appropriate.
 
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I don't agree this thread should be locked or removed. We're all adults here I think it should be discussed and debated like any other serious subject.

Much as I understand and concur with your frustration Applecruncher..I do think that we should first discover why the Op has come to the conclusion that he has..and perhaps then we can oppose or agree with his points of view.
 
hollydolly said:
I don't agree this thread should be locked or removed. We're all adults here I think it should be discussed and debated like any other serious subject.

Much as I understand and concur with your frustration Applecruncher..I do think that we should first discover why the Op has come to the conclusion that he has..and perhaps then we can oppose or agree with his points of view.
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Ahhhhh Reason!!! Thanks Holly!!!
 
I had a good black buddy classmate in Jr. Hi. We had a lot of fun together in wood shop.
When he used the term M...er F...er, I said, "How can you say such a thing?" He said that HE and his black friends just thought it was the worst thing
they could say about each other. May I remind you that was back in the 1940s....it was that long ago that this expression was in vogue.

ON a side note; My friend played bass fiddle in the school band. When he grew up he went to NY city and played with many big name entertainers and became a big name himself. His name was Major Holly. He died a few years ago but you can 'Google' him to look up his bio.
 
Falcon said:
I had a good black buddy classmate in Jr. Hi. We had a lot of fun together in wood shop.
When he used the term M...er F...er, I said, "How can you say such a thing?" He said that HE and his black friends just thought it was the worst thing
they could say about each other. May I remind you that was back in the 1940s....it was that long ago that this expression was in vogue.

ON a side note; My friend played bass fiddle in the school band. When he grew up he went to NY city and played with many big name entertainers and became a big name himself. His name was Major Holly. He died a few years ago but you can 'Google' him to look up his bio.
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Don't ALL races think that is about one of the worst things you can call someone?
 
QuickSilver said:
Don't ALL races think that is about one of the worst things you can call someone?
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I would hope so QS...but by the same token everyone, just everyone I know hates the word **nt...doesn't stop people using it tho' simply because it's used as a verbal tool that is almost guaranteed to get people furious!!
 

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