What do you have to do to go to Prison for life ..serial killer of 24 released from prison

[hollydolly]

French serial killer Charles Sobhraj - whose murders inspired BBC drama The Serpent - was freed from prison in Nepal today.

It comes after he served most of his sentence for the murders of American and Canadian backpackers - slayings that were remembered in a BBC crime drama watched by more than 31 million Brits.

Sobhraj was driven out of Central Jail in Kathmandu today escorted by a heavily guarded police convoy to the Department of Immigration, where he will wait for his travel documents to be prepared.

The country's Supreme Court had ordered that Sobhraj, who was sentenced to life in prison in Nepal, be released because of poor health, good behavior and having already served most of his sentence. Life sentences in Nepal are 20 years.

The order also said he had to leave the country within 15 days.

The Frenchman has in the past admitted killing several Western tourists and he is believed to have killed at least 20 people in Afghanistan, India, Thailand, Turkey, Nepal, Iran and Hong Kong during the 1970s.

However, his 2004 conviction in Nepal was the first time he was found guilty in court.

Sobhraj was held for two decades in New Delhi's maximum-security Tihar prison on suspicion of theft but was deported without charge to France in 1997.

He resurfaced in September 2003 in Kathmandu.

His nickname, The Serpent, stems from his reputation as a disguise and escape artist.

 

[Been There]

It’s always possible one of his victim’s relatives may track him down and give him the Justice he deserves. It’s been done before.

 

[StarSong]

France is taking him back, I assume.

 

[hollydolly]

Yet another in todays' new...

One of Britain’s most evil rapists will be back on the streets in the new year.

Andrew Barlow is getting parole despite thirteen life sentences – the most recent in 2017.

Barlow, 66, was dubbed the “Coronation Street rapist” because many of his attacks were in terraced houses in the Greater Manchester area.

The fiend, who lived in Bolton and Oldham, would wait until his victim’s husband, partner, or parents, had left for work, before striking, often early in the morning.

He has been in prison since 1988 when he was convicted of 11 rapes in a seven-year reign of terror.

The beast left one woman with multiple stab wounds and a collapsed lung.

Before he was finally arrested, Barlow tried to shoot two police officers after going on the run as the country’s most wanted man.

Decades later he admitted two more rapes from the early 1980s when DNA technology advanced.

Cold case reviews led the fiend to plead guilty while in prison in 2010 and 2017. In the first case, he raped a young mum in Sheffield while her terrified three-year-old daughter hid behind the settee.

In the second case, he broke into a terraced house in Bolton and raped a 15-year-old girl who was on her own while her parents were at work.
Now he is being let out after an eighth freedom bid was nodded through by officials.

A source said: “Everyone will be praying this decision is not a mistake.We are talking about a person who was once one of the most dangerous men in Britain.

“It would be travesty if anyone else comes to harm and serious questions would be asked.

The Parole Board said it took victim impact statements as well as written observations from two prison officers, psychiatrists and evidence from Barlow.

If you live in the North of England, or know people who do.. make sure they get a picture of this guy....

 

[Pepper]

Christmas Horror Stories hol.

 

[hollydolly]

Christmas Horror Stories hol.

no...just what's been reported in the media today..I do think we all should know if there's a serial killer or rapist among us...

 

[StarSong]

It's hard to imagine that either of these multiple offenders have qualified for release.

 

[hollydolly]

It's hard to imagine that either of these multiple offenders have qualified for release.

This is what's so shocking Star.. and how many more that we don't know about ?

 

[win231]

It is a cost-cutting measure - much like here in the U.S.
Inmates' medical & upkeep costs go up as they age. That's why Bill Cosby & O.J. Simpson are free. Their original long sentences' purpose is to pacify people who demand justice.

 

[Jules]

It’s so frustrating when a sentence for multiple crimes is served concurrently. Then the system says their term has been served and they have to release them.

 

[hollydolly]

It is a cost-cutting measure - much like here in the U.S.
Inmates' medical & upkeep costs go up as they age. That's why Bill Cosby & O.J. Simpson are free. Their original long sentences' purpose is to pacify people who demand justice.

I understand that for crimes which don't involve serial murder or rape... but otherwise, these people should never be allowed among the public ever again

 

[Della]

And yet there are women in prison doing thirty years under "failure to protect" laws. One woman was at work when her husband killed her baby, but she was supposed to know he was capable of that and so she is doing more time than he is.

If these serial killers should kill again will the judges who let them out go to prison for failure to protect us?

 

[JaniceM]

And yet there are women in prison doing thirty years under "failure to protect" laws. One woman was at work when her husband killed her baby, but she was supposed to know he was capable of that and so she is doing more time than he is.

If these serial killers should kill again will the judges who let them out go to prison for failure to protect us?

Is that something unique to Ohio? I've never heard of it before.. but too damned many instances of little children being killed by their mothers' so-called boyfriends who were left in charge when the mothers went to work.

 

[WhatInThe]

'Along with being a disguise and escape artist'

Gee, ya think there might be a chance he fooled prison officials?

 

[Della]

Is that something unique to Ohio?

There's some sort of failure to protect law in almost every state.

 

[Tish]

Unbelievable!

At least our backpacker serial killer died in Jail, may he rot in Hell.

 

[chic]

Yet another in todays' new...

One of Britain’s most evil rapists will be back on the streets in the new year.

Andrew Barlow is getting parole despite thirteen life sentences – the most recent in 2017.

Barlow, 66, was dubbed the “Coronation Street rapist” because many of his attacks were in terraced houses in the Greater Manchester area.

The fiend, who lived in Bolton and Oldham, would wait until his victim’s husband, partner, or parents, had left for work, before striking, often early in the morning.

He has been in prison since 1988 when he was convicted of 11 rapes in a seven-year reign of terror.

The beast left one woman with multiple stab wounds and a collapsed lung.

Before he was finally arrested, Barlow tried to shoot two police officers after going on the run as the country’s most wanted man.

Decades later he admitted two more rapes from the early 1980s when DNA technology advanced.

Cold case reviews led the fiend to plead guilty while in prison in 2010 and 2017. In the first case, he raped a young mum in Sheffield while her terrified three-year-old daughter hid behind the settee.

In the second case, he broke into a terraced house in Bolton and raped a 15-year-old girl who was on her own while her parents were at work.
Now he is being let out after an eighth freedom bid was nodded through by officials.

A source said: “Everyone will be praying this decision is not a mistake.We are talking about a person who was once one of the most dangerous men in Britain.

“It would be travesty if anyone else comes to harm and serious questions would be asked.

The Parole Board said it took victim impact statements as well as written observations from two prison officers, psychiatrists and evidence from Barlow.

If you live in the North of England, or know people who do.. make sure they get a picture of this guy....

The parole boards there must be different from ours. Isn't this really on them? IDK. When someone rapes that much it must be taken into account by the parole board that they present a danger to society.

 

[win231]

And yet there are women in prison doing thirty years under "failure to protect" laws. One woman was at work when her husband killed her baby, but she was supposed to know he was capable of that and so she is doing more time than he is.

If these serial killers should kill again will the judges who let them out go to prison for failure to protect us?

You may not believe it, but even police officers have NO duty to protect anyone:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...0Darren%20L.&usg=AOvVaw3WJ5OSgGWuV36vKHrS5V8i

Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again​

12/20/2018Ryan McMaken
Following last February's shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, some students claimed local government officials were at fault for failing to provide protection to students. The students filed suit, naming six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office , as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.
On Monday, though, a federal judge ruled that the government agencies " had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody."
This latest decision adds to a growing body of case law establishing that government agencies — including police agencies — have no duty to provide protection to citizens in general:

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.

 

[OneEyedDiva]

It is a cost-cutting measure - much like here in the U.S.
Inmates' medical & upkeep costs go up as they age. That's why Bill Cosby & O.J. Simpson are free. Their original long sentences' purpose is to pacify people who demand justice.

If they would have stopped giving ridiculous sentences to people who had non violent offenses maybe that would have cut some costs.
Re OP: It's disgusting that these men get to walk free. Maybe the old, sick killer won't strike again but I'm willing to bet (and I'm not a betting woman) that the rapist will. The justice systems are so broken!

 

[chic]

You may not believe it, but even police officers have NO duty to protect anyone:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbufqNmZH8AhWtL0QIHacBDFYQFnoECBgQAw&url=https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/do-police-have-a-duty-to-protect-me#:~:text=True%2C%20Unless%20police%20have%20assumed,occur%2C%E2%80%9D%20said%20Darren%20L.&usg=AOvVaw3WJ5OSgGWuV36vKHrS5V8i

Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again​

12/20/2018Ryan McMaken
Following last February's shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, some students claimed local government officials were at fault for failing to provide protection to students. The students filed suit, naming six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office , as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.
On Monday, though, a federal judge ruled that the government agencies " had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody."
This latest decision adds to a growing body of case law establishing that government agencies — including police agencies — have no duty to provide protection to citizens in general:

I thought they did. Isn't protection the idea of the concept of policing?

 

[Victoria]

French serial killer Charles Sobhraj - whose murders inspired BBC drama The Serpent - was freed from prison in Nepal today.


It comes after he served most of his sentence for the murders of American and Canadian backpackers - slayings that were remembered in a BBC crime drama watched by more than 31 million Brits.


Sobhraj was driven out of Central Jail in Kathmandu today escorted by a heavily guarded police convoy to the Department of Immigration, where he will wait for his travel documents to be prepared.


The country's Supreme Court had ordered that Sobhraj, who was sentenced to life in prison in Nepal, be released because of poor health, good behavior and having already served most of his sentence. Life sentences in Nepal are 20 years.


The order also said he had to leave the country within 15 days.

The Frenchman has in the past admitted killing several Western tourists and he is believed to have killed at least 20 people in Afghanistan, India, Thailand, Turkey, Nepal, Iran and Hong Kong during the 1970s.

However, his 2004 conviction in Nepal was the first time he was found guilty in court.


Sobhraj was held for two decades in New Delhi's maximum-security Tihar prison on suspicion of theft but was deported without charge to France in 1997.


He resurfaced in September 2003 in Kathmandu.


His nickname, The Serpent, stems from his reputation as a disguise and escape artist.

This is exactly why I'm for the death penalty in cases of murderers, and child molesters, especially serial ones! They think just because the person is old or has been in prison for 20 years that they can be let out.

No! Their victims are still dead. Their victims are still traumatized if molested. They let too many back out to kill again. 90% of the time you hear about someone killing someone, they were in prison for murder in the past and were let out. I think once a person gets to the point of killing someone, there's no coming back from that.

Yes I know there are rare special cases of people being rehabilitated, but those cases are too few to justify putting people in danger by freeing ALL murderers at some point. Yes I know some innocent people end up in jail for murder, but 99% of them are guilty.

More people end up dead because some sicko killer was let out, than the number of those wrongfully convicted. More people end dead from NOT having the death penalty. I would rather they kill one than let that one go free to kill 5 more innocent victims.

I wish the death penalty didn't have to exist but I wish murderers didn't exist. Life in prison is not life in prison unfortunately.

 

[Victoria]

It's hard to imagine that either of these multiple offenders have qualified for release.

This is why the prisons are overcrowded. If they start executing those sickos, there will be more room for the non violent criminals.

 

[Victoria]

It is a cost-cutting measure - much like here in the U.S.
Inmates' medical & upkeep costs go up as they age. That's why Bill Cosby & O.J. Simpson are free. Their original long sentences' purpose is to pacify people who demand justice.

If they start giving people the death penalty and actually executing them before they turn 80, they won't have to worry about them aging.

 

[Victoria]

And yet there are women in prison doing thirty years under "failure to protect" laws. One woman was at work when her husband killed her baby, but she was supposed to know he was capable of that and so she is doing more time than he is.

If these serial killers should kill again will the judges who let them out go to prison for failure to protect us?

What!? That is sooo messed up!

Is that something unique to Ohio? I've never heard of it before.. but too damned many instances of little children being killed by their mothers' so-called boyfriends who were left in charge when the mothers went to work.

Women or men with custody of their kids shouldn't even try dating anyone if they have a child under the age of 16. Too many sickos out there.

You may not believe it, but even police officers have NO duty to protect anyone:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbufqNmZH8AhWtL0QIHacBDFYQFnoECBgQAw&url=https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/do-police-have-a-duty-to-protect-me#:~:text=True%2C%20Unless%20police%20have%20assumed,occur%2C%E2%80%9D%20said%20Darren%20L.&usg=AOvVaw3WJ5OSgGWuV36vKHrS5V8i

Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again​

12/20/2018Ryan McMaken
Following last February's shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, some students claimed local government officials were at fault for failing to provide protection to students. The students filed suit, naming six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office , as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.
On Monday, though, a federal judge ruled that the government agencies " had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody."
This latest decision adds to a growing body of case law establishing that government agencies — including police agencies — have no duty to provide protection to citizens in general:

It's crazy. I found that out after the school shooting in Texas where the man killed 19 kids while the police stood right outside the door waiting for someone to tell them to go in. I felt like all of those cops should have been held accountable. Then they tried to arrest one mother who went in that school and got her two kids out herself. Crazy! Society is devolving, we're going backwards and people are getting dumber.

 

[rgp]

It is the appeals system that creates millionaire attorneys. Most of which is paid for by tax payers

And it is low level drug laws that also provide for the practice of these attorneys as well as providing for the hiring of more & more police personal , training, equipment, etc. All of which is paid for by tax payers.

Legalize [IMO] all drugs, regulate them closely , take the street value away ... which [again IMO] would eliminate most of the associated crime.

If someone chooses to stick a needle full of some concoction of drugs in his/her arm and it kills them ....... I really don't care ... it was afterall ... their choice.

Think of the prohabition of the 20's {1920-1933} When it ended most of the Al Capone types were out of business. The alcohol smuggling business anyway.

The war on drugs is a joke. It started in what ? 1967 I believe ... going on 56 years ... and the drug problem is worse than ever. More people dying in the street than ever , more millionaire defence attorneys than ever , and more millionare drug dealers than ever.

I wish America et al would wake up.