4 Idaho College Students Found Stabbed To Death-Suspect On The Run

Remy said:
One of the YouTube shows I listen to discussed this. It was stated one of two of the young women were seen on camera at a local food truck within hours before the crime. Someone was looking at them I believe? But it's certainly not unusual for young males to check out attractive females. I don't know if anything nefarious will turn up with that. If they upload that segment only, I can link it here. It was informative.
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I saw this. 2 of the girls were at the food truck. Police have ruled out any connection with the young man who was standing behind them. So far, anyway.
 

Della said:
Because I think it would be hard to stab four people without the last three fighting back and screaming the house down, I wonder if the killer drugged them all with something first.
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From what I've read, they were all asleep. Those 4 anyway.
The boy and girl in 1 room, not sure about the other 2 girls, together or separate rooms.
 
How does 1 person stab 4 people,unless they were tied up?
Reminds of the Ted Bundy story,where he went on a rampage in a sorority.
Very sad, especially at this time of year.
 

Alligatorob said:
And another one in Washington state https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-mu...ttack-resurfaces-amid-college-slaying-mystery

Until this is solved it will lead to lots of conspiracy theories, one might be right.
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The similarity in that one was the victim was stabbed in her home but she was much older. I thought serial killers had a type although with this one their thing could be home invasion/burglary then kill.

Even a serial killer has to start somewhere then escalate or evolve. I doubt the 4 students were their first.
 
WhatInThe said:
Even a serial killer has to start somewhere then escalate or evolve. I doubt the 4 students were their first.
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Unfortunately its starting to look that way.

Initially I assumed it was a jealous boyfriend or something of the like. However had that been the case it would have likely been solved by now.

Now its looking more like someone not from the area who was not known. As you say a serial killer.

Sure hope they find the culprit(s) soon.
 
Living in Idaho,we see this case on the news daily. It certainly is apparent that the police really made a mistake in saying at the beginning that there was no danger to the community. Makes you wonder how many other mistakes were made. Really doesn`t sound like they have any suspects or even persons of interest at this point. Also,sooo many house here in Idaho have basement bedrooms.May have been why the other roommates didn`t hear anything.Plus,all were asleep when attacked.

Another case here in Idaho,closer to us than the student murders,is the disappearance of little Michael Vaughn.He disappeared from in front of his home in July 2021. Two weeks ago,they announced that they had a credible witness stating that he was buried in the backyard of a home a few blocks away from his home.They went on to arrest a woman who lives there,charging her with "failure to report a dead body" or some such thing.But the woman is a wack job and has been deemed not capable of aiding in her defense.So who knows.They finished excavating the yard the other day,hauling off tons of soil,with no announcements as to whether or not they have found anything.I`m starting to think maybe they haven`t. So sad.
 
Now that the arrest has been made and details of the investigation are coming out it is interesting. Lots of criticism of the police early on for lack of information and suspects.

Now it seems clear to me that this was handled pretty well by the authorities. They were making progress and knew a lot more than they let on. Probably for the best, did not alarm the perpetrator.

One thing I would like to understand that I've not seen addressed is motive. Did the bad guy have some connection to one or more of the victims, or was it just murder for murders sake?

And of course were there others involved, and were these his first murders?
 
Alligatorob said:
Now that the arrest has been made and details of the investigation are coming out it is interesting. Lots of criticism of the police early on for lack of information and suspects.

Now it seems clear to me that this was handled pretty well by the authorities. They were making progress and knew a lot more than they let on. Probably for the best, did not alarm the perpetrator.

One thing I would like to understand that I've not seen addressed is motive. Did the bad guy have some connection to one or more of the victims, or was it just murder for murders sake?

And of course were there others involved, and were these his first murders?
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Were these his first murders? THIS. He jumps from zero to four with no dry runs/individuals?

That being said he doesn't quite fit the profile either. Including alot of criminals have a father out of the picture which wasn't the case here. There were some issues in high school but nothing that would've jumped out especially after advancing his education.
 
Alligatorob said:
seems clear to me that this was handled pretty well by the authorities. They were making progress and knew a lot more than they let on. Probably for the best, did not alarm the perpetrator.

One thing I would like to understand that I've not seen addressed is motive. Did the bad guy have some connection to one or more of the victims, or was it just murder for murders sake?

And of course were there others involved, and were these his first murders?
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I agree, @Alligatorob ... I think they handled it well, and we (the public) didn't need to know things like the roommate seeing him, or one of the murdered girls on TikTok right around the time of the murders. It would have alerted him and put that roommate in danger for one thing.

Re: Your question "were these his first?" Well, I live in PA quite far from where they picked him up, but the rumor mill is flopping around like crazy about some unsolved murders not far from his area over the last few years. Only time will tell.
 
Alligatorob said:
Now that the arrest has been made and details of the investigation are coming out it is interesting. Lots of criticism of the police early on for lack of information and suspects.

Now it seems clear to me that this was handled pretty well by the authorities. They were making progress and knew a lot more than they let on. Probably for the best, did not alarm the perpetrator.

One thing I would like to understand that I've not seen addressed is motive. Did the bad guy have some connection to one or more of the victims, or was it just murder for murders sake?

And of course were there others involved, and were these his first murders?
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Great questions. From what I've read, everyone is looking for the motive, and if this is his first kill.
As far as LE, they were working so hard behind the scenes ie: bringing in the state police and the FBI, but keeping that under wraps, and unfortunately rec'ving a lot of criticism for not doing enough.
 
The Idaho murder suspect used to get tormented in school and and was a self-destructive overweight heroin addict in the years before the horrific slayings, according to his old classmates.

Bryan Kohberger, 28, was bullied and dropped 100 pounds in his senior year of high school before taking up hard drugs, two of his former friends have revealed.

PhD student Kohberger is currently charged with the quadruple murders of Idaho students Xana Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves - who were found dead in a college home on November 13.

Details about the suspect's past are now coming to light - including that he was a 'secluded' person who used his criminology studies to 'try to understand humans and understand himself.'

Two of his high school friends, Casey Arntz and Bree, who asked to have her last name kept private, said Kohberger was overweight and was bullied in school.

The suspected Idaho killer shed nearly 100 pounds in his senior year after being the brunt of his classmates' jokes - which was when people noticed a switch in him.

Arntz told CBS' 48 Hours: 'He was rail thin. It was after that weight loss that a lot of people noticed a huge switch.'
After losing the weight, it was Kohberger who started bullying Arntz' brother - putting him in chokeholds and getting physically aggressive with him.

Bree said that 'self-destructive' Kohberger started also using heroin. She added: 'You just saw him becoming more self-destructive. He really stayed secluded.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-overweight-bullied-school-heroin-addict.html
 
@dobielvr It has now been revealed that one of the housemates was up and saw the killer enough to say he had bushy eyebrows. She heard a distress sound coming from one of the victims' rooms, which means that person may have already been awake. She saw Bryan leaving out the sliding glass door. So my big question is...since she knew there was an intruder and likely went into at least one of the bedrooms and found the couple murdered, why did they wait so long (8 hours) to call the police?!
 
OneEyedDiva said:
@dobielvr It has now been revealed that one of the housemates was up and saw the killer enough to say he had bushy eyebrows. She heard a distress sound coming from one of the victims' rooms, which means that person may have already been awake. She saw Bryan leaving out the sliding glass door. So my big question is...since she knew there was an intruder and likely went into at least one of the bedrooms and found the couple murdered, why did they wait so long (8 hours) to call the police?!
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Yes, I read that she was able to give a fairly good description of the guy. In addition to his bushy eyebrows, she also described his build as being tall, thin and somewhat athletic looking.

As to why she waited so long to call LE, who knows. The shock of it all, not being able to decipher what happened.

ETA: what Pepper said
 
I've been following this pretty closely.

WRT the sole witness, Dylan Mortensen, as to where she was standing, the likely route of the killer as he left, why he did not see her, and why she waited so long, there's a lot out there with which to form some ideas.

Matching up her testimony from the probable cause affidavit (PCA), she heard three separate "events". She opened her door for the last two. The final event was hearing more crying from the direction of Xana Kernodle's room, she opened the door and saw the killer come toward her, walk past her, and head toward the sliding glass door toward the back, off of the kitchen.

Working from detailed layouts of the interior of the house now online, when the killer exited Kernodle's room, having killed the two people in it, and this after he had most likely first gone upstairs and killed Goncalves and Mogan, the route to leave caused him to walk, ostensibly in a darkened house, to a step up into a hallway, then turn to the right and go out the kitchen. Mortensen's room was at the hallway, to the left. He had to look down to see the step, then to the right to find the way out.

I'm going to guess that she had the door opened only slightly, and that unless he actually looked at the door fairly carefully, in the darkened hall the door would appear closed. He was probably with 3-4 feet of her, and likely still had the knife in his hand.

Seeing this, I'm going to guess that she quietly closed the door as soon as he had turned away from her to go to the kitchen, and she locked the door (she testified to this) and was afraid to make a sound for literally hours afterward, not knowing if the killer was still in the house. Think about it: if I open the door, it could be my death. If I make a sound, it could be my death. I'd almost suppose that she did nothing until the 1st floor roommate came up and knocked on her door late-midmorning.
 
Sawfish said:
I've been following this pretty closely.

WRT the sole witness, Dylan Mortensen, as to where she was standing, the likely route of the killer as he left, why he did not see her, and why she waited so long, there's a lot out there with which to form some ideas.

Matching up her testimony from the probable cause affidavit (PCA), she heard three separate "events". She opened her door for the last two. The final event was hearing more crying from the direction of Xana Kernodle's room, she opened the door and saw the killer come toward her, walk past her, and head toward the sliding glass door toward the back, off of the kitchen.

Working from detailed layouts of the interior of the house now online, when the killer exited Kernodle's room, having killed the two people in it, and this after he had most likely first gone upstairs and killed Goncalves and Mogan, the route to leave caused him to walk, ostensibly in a darkened house, to a step up into a hallway, then turn to the right and go out the kitchen. Mortensen's room was at the hallway, to the left. He had to look down to see the step, then to the right to find the way out.

I'm going to guess that she had the door opened only slightly, and that unless he actually looked at the door fairly carefully, in the darkened hall the door would appear closed. He was probably with 3-4 feet of her, and likely still had the knife in his hand.

Seeing this, I'm going to guess that she quietly closed the door as soon as he had turned away from her to go to the kitchen, and she locked the door (she testified to this) and was afraid to make a sound for literally hours afterward, not knowing if the killer was still in the house. Think about it: if I open the door, it could be my death. If I make a sound, it could be my death. I'd almost suppose that she did nothing until the 1st floor roommate came up and knocked on her door late-midmorning.
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Your detailed account makes sense but the report I saw made it seem like she saw him leave the house. Still you've provided more information than I've seen/heard so far and it seems feasible. Thank you.
 
In 2011, Kohberger's sister played in a slasher movie where young people were stabbed to death. Doesn't it sound like something he may have tried to mimic in his own life? Just an idea:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/accused-idaho-killer-bryan-kohbergers-sister-starred-in-horror-movie-—-about-young-people-being-stabbed-to-death/ar-AA1606NO
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Your detailed account makes sense but the report I saw made it seem like she saw him leave the house. Still you've provided more information than I've seen/heard so far and it seems feasible. Thank you.
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Your welcome.

If she stayed in her room, she might just barely see him go out the sliding door. The PCA makes it pretty clear that she testified that she stayed in her room. She could have seen him go into the kitchen., and maybe the sliding door.

https://preview.redd.it/y44jbk5c39b...ed&s=3c2b26d44600d78c5ea631756288e1b03bd5ff31
 
palides2021 said:
In 2011, Kohberger's sister played in a slasher movie where young people were stabbed to death. Doesn't it sound like something he may have tried to mimic in his own life? Just an idea:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/accused-idaho-killer-bryan-kohbergers-sister-starred-in-horror-movie-—-about-young-people-being-stabbed-to-death/ar-AA1606NO
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Are you able to use the link icon above the field where you type? When you do so the link will show up in blue. Otherwise we have to copy and paste the link you posted and put into the URL box. I ask because when I'm using my tablet, I cannot do it that way.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Are you able to use the link icon above the field where you type? When you do so the link will show up in blue. Otherwise we have to copy and paste the link you posted and put into the URL box. I ask because when I'm using my tablet, I cannot do it that way.
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Not sure what you mean, but if you type his last name and "sister starred in horror movie" in Google, it should come up.
 
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