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oops no , I meant beginning of 2020You mean 2019?
oops no , I meant beginning of 2020You mean 2019?
Haven't they always had forced vaccinations in the military? I know my husband (who faints from shots) had to have quite a few before he was sent to Thailand and Korea and I, as a spouse, had to have certain vaccinations before going overseas with him. Not a vaccination but a test was the TB test when returning from England which showed I had been exposed to TB while I was there. I was glad to have that information.The strains we are getting now seem to be more flu like than anything else. I hope everyone else is staying well. I refuse to wear a mask and I’ll deal with it if I get it. I got out of the military before they had forced vaccinations, which I never knew were legal, but they were telling us at the Pentagon that they were coming, however, I was planning on leaving anyway.
My first concern about Covid vaccines was how quickly it became available, when it normally takes 10-12 years. That was one reason I decided not to get it. I'm not surprised that vaccinated people get Covid.How long, (and how much testing is involved) does it 'usually' take to develop vaccines:
https://www.businessinsider.com/how...accines-in-history-2020-7?op=1#yellow-fever-4
(Over the decades I've had shots for smallpox, cholera, typhoid, paratyphoid, yellow fever, rabies...etc, etc....all of which underwent extensive testing prior to being administered......Covid? Not so much.)
Had a vaccine? nope
Had covid? nope
Had a cold? nope
wear a mask? nope
Same goes for wife and the rest of the family.
Know anyone who died from covid? nope...
Very profitable placebos.We, that's my wife and I, tested positive today. It manifested itself on me last Tuesday morning, my wife followed about twelve hours later. Apart from the first forty-eight hours, I have hardly noticed anything but whilst it bounced off me, it's really knocked my wife over although, today, she is showing a slight improvement. Having had no less than four covid inoculations and thinking that they gave protection, I am now of the opinion that they were no more than placebos.
Dangerous placebos too.Very profitable placebos.
During my 3-4 days of Covid, I didn't eat much - not only because I just didn't feel like it, also because I couldn't taste anything. I've since gained back the 7 lbs. I lost. I didn't have them to spare.In Feb 2020 I had a unbelievably bad headache like never before, a migraine. The next day I got the chills. I went home and spent the next 3 days in bed. I was Ok like getting over the flu but had a queasy stomach for about 3 weeks so lost some weight.
I was never diagnosed but I'm sure that was covid.
NO! Not always. I think the vaccine may have been out somewhere around 6-8 months before the mandate was issued.Haven't they always had forced vaccinations in the military? I know my husband (who faints from shots) had to have quite a few before he was sent to Thailand and Korea and I, as a spouse, had to have certain vaccinations before going overseas with him. Not a vaccination but a test was the TB test when returning from England which showed I had been exposed to TB while I was there. I was glad to have that information.
I love vaccinations. I would so much rather have a shot than, polio, smallpox, diphtheria, tetanus, shingles. I wish they had a vaccination for the common cold but since they don't it doesn't bother me a bit to wear a mask when I go shopping during the winter. It may only lessen my chances of catching a cold, but every little bit helps. If nothing else the mask keeps my nose warm and that helps the immunity response.
Just being vaccinated is not enough. Variants keep springing up, and they are the main reason for boosting. Keeping up with the boosts is essential. Those who don‘t boost and do it promptly are at great risk. It‘s those people, particularly the elderly, who are greatest risk. Those elderly who got an original vaccine, but never boosted are at great risk, and it’s their deaths that have led some to incorrectly believe that vaccination doesn't work or even causes deaths. The real problem is Not vaccination, but failure to follow up with the boosts.My first concern about Covid vaccines was how quickly it became available, when it normally takes 10-12 years. That was one reason I decided not to get it. I'm not surprised that vaccinated people get Covid.
Unfortunately, (as we've observed time & time again) those do boost are at the same risk as those who don't; indicated by the fact that they are getting just as sick, just as often as those who don't. And those who don't get vaccinated at all are also at the same risk as those who do. That's the reality of what has been happening, rather than a rationalized theory.Just being vaccinated is not enough. Variants keep springing up, and they are the main reason for boosting. Keeping up with the boosts is essential. Those who don‘t boost and do it promptly are at great risk. It‘s those people, particularly the elderly, who are greatest risk. Those elderly who got an original vaccine, but never boosted are at great risk, and it’s their deaths that have led some to incorrectly believe that vaccination doesn't work or even causes deaths. The real problem is Not vaccination, but failure to follow up with the boosts.
The elderly Are more likely to be vaccinated than younger members of the population, and because of their age are by far the most likely to die if infected. But, if they fail to get the latest boosts the initial vaccination is not sufficiently effective to prevent infection, and more importantly, death if infected. In that case it is easy to point out that they were vaccinated and died, but misses the point that they were not sufficiently boosted.Unfortunately, (as we've observed time & time again) those do boost are at the same risk as those who don't; indicated by the fact that they are getting just as sick, just as often as those who don't. And those who don't get vaccinated at all are also at the same risk as those who do. That's the reality of what has been happening, rather than a rationalized theory.
The elderly are probably more likely to be vaccinated because they are more frightened of the virus than younger people. Of course, the older someone is, the more likely they are to die - but that applies to any illness, since we all have to die of something; we're not designed to last forever. The CDC can be expected to speak of the vaccine's benefits & protection; we can't expect them to say anything negative about a vaccine they've been pushing for 2 years.The elderly Are more likely to be vaccinated than younger members of the population, and because of their age are by far the most likely to die if infected. But, if they fail to get the latest boosts the initial vaccination is not sufficiently effective to prevent infection, and more importantly, death if infected. In that case it is easy to point out that they were vaccinated and died, but misses the point that they were not sufficiently boosted.
”Boosted Americans 97 times less likely to die of virus than unvaccinated; CDC predicts 75,000 more deaths by Feb. 26: Live COVID-19 updates”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...id-cases-mandates-vaccines-deaths/9308759002/
Had a vaccine? nope
Had covid? nope
Had a cold? nope
wear a mask? nope
Same goes for wife and the rest of the family.
Know anyone who died from covid? nope... but I know someone who drowned and death was listed as covid.
And another who died of gastric issues (plus mega overweight, missing gall bladder, and diabetic) and his death also was listed as covid.
The elderly are more motivated to vaccinate, and more importantly boost, because the elderly are more likely to die from Covid, or one of its variants. You can do as you like, but my wife and I will continue to boost at every opportunity.The elderly are probably more likely to be vaccinated because they are more frightened of the virus than younger people. Of course, the older someone is, the more likely they are to die - but that applies to any illness, since we all have to die of something; we're not designed to last forever. The CDC can be expected to speak of the vaccine's benefits & protection; we can't expect them to say anything negative about a vaccine they've been pushing for 2 years.
Yup, and it's just the luck of the draw on who will get a bad case and who won't. It's a gamble.I had it last month. I tested positive for ten days but only had symptoms for about 5 of those days. It did knock me out much like a bad cold. My sense of taste was strange for about 2 weeks after but all good now. I had thought I was "special" and would never get it. Serves me right to think that way
My dad is 92 and lives in a residential care home because he has dementia. They are very protective there but he and 5 others there currently have it. Thankfully my dad is asymptomatic and is doing well despite testing positive.
I know many in the past couple of years who have had COVID and each had their own different way of trying to avoid it ranging from taking all the vaccines and boosters to avoiding taking them but living a healthy lifestyle . I think most people will get it one way or another , just a question how it will affect each individual.
It's easy to think that, but you don't know how you or your wife would have handled COVID if not vaccinated. The vaccine could have prevented both of you from needing to be intubated or from death.We, that's my wife and I, tested positive today. It manifested itself on me last Tuesday morning, my wife followed about twelve hours later. Apart from the first forty-eight hours, I have hardly noticed anything but whilst it bounced off me, it's really knocked my wife over although, today, she is showing a slight improvement. Having had no less than four covid inoculations and thinking that they gave protection, I am now of the opinion that they were no more than placebos.
Not the same risk factor. Those who are vaccinated are less likely to have a bad case or need hospitalization or death.Unfortunately, (as we've observed time & time again) those do boost are at the same risk as those who don't; indicated by the fact that they are getting just as sick, just as often as those who don't. And those who don't get vaccinated at all are also at the same risk as those who do. That's the reality of what has been happening, rather than a rationalized theory.
And apparently deadly for a lot of young people.Dangerous placebos too.