Another Example of Our Pathetic Justice System. Mother is Forced to Kill Armed Intruder

Time has been on my side up to now and I think that is the same for most people, here or there. The threat of something violent happening to any one of us is always there, quite true but I refuse to arm myself to the teeth and live in fear “just in case” some threat comes my way.
I don't consider owning a weapon for self-defense being "armed to the teeth." One weapon does not constitute an arsenal, and I don't label someone as "living in fear" because they own a gun "just in case." It's your choice to refuse whatever you want to refuse. I believe it's better to be prepared than to wish I was.

May time always be on your side. :)
 

Time has been on my side up to now and I think that is the same for most people, here or there. The threat of something violent happening to any one of us is always there, quite true but I refuse to arm myself to the teeth and live in fear “just in case” some threat comes my way.
Calling someone who owns a gun "Armed to the teeth" is an asinine way to ridicule someone because you don't think anyone should have the means to defend themselves because you choose not to.
 
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Calling someone who owns a gun "Armed to the teeth" is an asinine way to ridicule someone because you don't think anyone should have the means to defend themselves because you choose not to.
Au contraire, senor but i didn't call ANYONE anything and I also neither intended nor inferred ridicule towards anyone, you included. But I will say thst I truly don't appreciate you putting your thoughts into my words because they're not accurate.
 
Au contraire, senor but i didn't call ANYONE anything and I also neither intended nor inferred ridicule towards anyone, you included. But I will say thst I truly don't appreciate you putting your thoughts into my words because they're not accurate.
Oh, but they are accurate:
"I refuse to arm myself to the teeth and live in fear" (your post #20)
You're welcome.
 
She did what was legally allowed, evidently and used what she had available. She made a choice and it was a choice that can't be undone. I wasn't there but killing wasn't necessarily the only possible choice, I'd think. I'm happy knowing of your glee.
There are infinite choices, always.

You either make the definitive choice, or trust the other, in this case an intruder with whom he had already gotten into "physical scuffle after she found him inside her home", make the definitive choice.
 
Here's something interesting that few here know about:

katanagari - sword hunts in Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_hunt

If you've ever wondred why the Japanese are the way they are, polite to a fault, bowing and scraping, submissive to authority, and reluctant to make a decision or to distinguish themselves from the general group, being disarmed for 500 years while the "police" (samurai) were armed and empowered to use lethal force on whim, is why.
 
Mmm ... I dunno for but during WWII, at least a few Japanese weren't so bowing and scraping, or so I've heard and read.
And that wasn't quite 500 years ago, I've heard and read as well. But honestly, that's not something I ever wondered.
I hope you do a better job of defending yourself if the need arises than you have of addressing my point in any meaningful way.

Bobbing and weaving only works for just so long you'll find, if you haven't already--and it looks like you haven't.
 
A lost individual doesn't break into your house & this was no lost individual at 5 a.m. looking for directions at her door. Earlier he had already attempted a carjacking. He sealed his own fate that night. He went to this woman's house armed & with intent to commit a crime. The stated criminal history is probably a short list of what he has committed.

The only one who had a choice in this incident was perpetrator. The mother wasn't given a choice at all, but was forced to make a split-second decision not to be a victim which saved her life & those of her children.

It may shock you, but his family members may be relieved that he is gone. It's possible they were some of his first victims or afraid they could be the next. People like him don't care who they hurt. Those are some of the facts in the real world.

As far as having other options, please explain what you think she should have done. Pleaded with him not to hurt her or the kids? Men are physically stronger than women, but was she supposed to go hand-to-hand with him? Not every woman is a sheeple who is willing to let the wolves have their way.

I know I shouldn't be surprised any more when I hear people making excuses for criminals & then condemn those who refuse to be a victim.

I don't live in fear, but I don't hide from the truth about the real world. Evil is walking along side of us every day. It may smile at you walking down the street.

I hope nothing like this happens to you or yours. I also hope there's a Sheepdog to help you if something bad happens who will save you from yourself since it sounds like you would not.
 
Here's something interesting that few here know about:

katanagari - sword hunts in Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_hunt

If you've ever wondred why the Japanese are the way they are, polite to a fault, bowing and scraping, submissive to authority, and reluctant to make a decision or to distinguish themselves from the general group, being disarmed for 500 years while the "police" (samurai) were armed and empowered to use lethal force on whim, is why.
Very interesting read. I learned something new.
 
A lost individual doesn't break into your house & this was no lost individual at 5 a.m. looking for directions at her door. Earlier he had already attempted a carjacking. He sealed his own fate that night. He went to this woman's house armed & with intent to commit a crime. The stated criminal history is probably a short list of what he has committed.

The only one who had a choice in this incident was perpetrator. The mother wasn't given a choice at all, but was forced to make a split-second decision not to be a victim which saved her life & those of her children.

It may shock you, but his family members may be relieved that he is gone. It's possible they were some of his first victims or afraid they could be the next. People like him don't care who they hurt. Those are some of the facts in the real world.
Anything is possible. Your view us one, mine is another. Why should one accept your view over mine?
As far as having other options, please explain what you think she should have done. Pleaded with him not to hurt her or the kids? Men are physically stronger than women, but was she supposed to go hand-to-hand with him? Not every woman is a sheeple who is willing to let the wolves have their way.
And not every woman would have jept a gun in the first place. Calling anyone "sheeple" seems disrespectful.
I know I shouldn't be surprised any more when I hear people making excuses for criminals & then condemn those who refuse to be a victim.

I don't live in fear, but I don't hide from the truth about the real world. Evil is walking along side of us every day. It may smile at you walking down the street.
You have your beliefs, I, in turn, have mine.
I hope nothing like this happens to you or yours. I also hope there's a Sheepdog to help you if something bad happens who will save you from yourself since it sounds like you would not.
Thanks for sharing but I think that you're just as wrong in your view as you seem to feel that I am in mine. I guess that we can agree to disagree.

But ask yourself, who would Jesus shoot?
 
But ask yourself, who would Jesus shoot?
I am not a bible scholar, but I believe the good Lord gave us the right to defend ourselves & protect those we love against evil.

Before Jesus was arrested, scholars said He knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense.

Luke 22:36 (New International Version) He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

And yes, Farrah, we will agree to disagree.
 
A friend of mine had someone break in while they were sleeping and he started to beat her husband. She got a gun and killed him. It was ruled justified but she was very traumatized although she probably saved both their lives. She never owned a gun again.

If I lived in a house I would have a big dog. I chose to live in a condo in a secure building. If someone was trying to break in all my neighbors would hear them in the hallway. I live on the top floor for security reasons.
 
I am not a bible scholar, but I believe the good Lord gave us the right to defend ourselves & protect those we love against evil.

Before Jesus was arrested, scholars said He knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense.

Luke 22:36 (New International Version) He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

And yes, Farrah, we will agree to disagree.
Actually and I’m no scholar of the Bible or anything else but I don’t think that guns were a reality during the time that Jesus supposedly was on the earth. I didn’t mean that my question be taken literally but thank you for the input. Now we know a bit more about each other.
 
A friend of mine had someone break in while they were sleeping and he started to beat her husband. She got a gun and killed him. It was ruled justified but she was very traumatized although she probably saved both their lives. She never owned a gun again.

If I lived in a house I would have a big dog. I chose to live in a condo in a secure building. If someone was trying to break in all my neighbors would hear them in the hallway. I live on the top floor for security reasons.
You are right about dogs. The right dog, one who really attaches to you deeply, can go completely off the deep end.

My first wife had a dog that very likely would have died for her. Just a large mixed breed mutt. Very nice other than when he perceived a threat to her.
 
And I ain't mad at her. Good for her for not being the victim. @Farrah Nuff I'm not an advocate for keeping guns in the home, as I've stated on the forum in the past, but IMO she made the right choice. Unfortunately I do feel you and @Alligatorob are probably right about the fact that she killed someone (however justified) will haunt her for the rest of her life. I feel she won't be charged @Gaer.

But another example of "pathetic justice system", a very unfair one as people of color have come to know all too well...a few years back, a Black woman fired a warning shot to deter an abusive spouse got sentenced to 20 years. After many protests, she was released after three years (time served). Around the same time a similar case happened with a White person who did not get charged at all.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marissa-alexander-released-jail-warning-shot_n_6558814
 

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