What a Stupid, Stupid Boy (Prince Harry)
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The reality, know one can inherit when they are not of the same blood.
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The book also includes a line where the Duke says Meghan Markle booked an Air New Zealand flight from Mexico to the UK for her father Thomas.
But the airline has now revealed it has never operated flights between the two countries.
Harry wrote: “We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now.
“Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.”
Air New Zealand said of the book’s claim: “We’ve never had flights between Mexico and the UK. And we only have Business Premier.
The airline added it also does not operate first class seats, reports the NZ Herald.
The book also includes a line where the Duke says Meghan Markle booked an Air New Zealand flight from Mexico to the UK for her father Thomas.
But the airline has now revealed it has never operated flights between the two countries.
Harry wrote: “We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now.
“Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.”
Air New Zealand said of the book’s claim: “We’ve never had flights between Mexico and the UK. And we only have Business Premier.
The airline added it also does not operate first class seats, reports the NZ Herald.
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According to Harry's ghostwriter, he admitted that Harry himself said that there may be inaccuracies, but they are his memory alone.
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Obfuscators R Us.
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The book also includes a line where the Duke says Meghan Markle booked an Air New Zealand flight from Mexico to the UK for her father Thomas.
But the airline has now revealed it has never operated flights between the two countries.
Harry wrote: “We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now.
“Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.”
Air New Zealand said of the book’s claim: “We’ve never had flights between Mexico and the UK. And we only have Business Premier.
The airline added it also does not operate first class seats, reports the NZ Herald.
Harry's memory alone ?.. which means completely invented in Harry's head..
ETA in fact when you're trashing other peoples lives with ''your truth'' and ''your memories alone''.. then you should be ashamed of yourself.. but we all know there's No shame In Markle or her lapdog..
The book also includes a line where the Duke says Meghan Markle booked an Air New Zealand flight from Mexico to the UK for her father Thomas.
But the airline has now revealed it has never operated flights between the two countries.
Harry wrote: “We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now.
“Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.”
Air New Zealand said of the book’s claim: “We’ve never had flights between Mexico and the UK. And we only have Business Premier.
The airline added it also does not operate first class seats, reports the NZ Herald.
yes that's as good as when people tell blatant lies... it's now ''My truth''... ..
Harry's memory alone ?.. which means completely invented in Harry's head..
ETA in fact when you're trashing other peoples lives with ''your truth'' and ''your memories alone''.. then you should be ashamed of yourself.. but we all know there's No shame In Markle or her lapdog..
When they were passing out smarts he thought they said sharks and he didn't want any!
Check out Diana's Brother at that same age.
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I’m so sick of that phrase!
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*Shudder* Oedipus Complex much?
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A List of Harry's ''Truths''... debunked...
Harry begins his memoir by plundering one of his favourite websites, Brainyquote.com: ‘The past is never dead. It’s not even past.’ It’s an unintentionally hilarious motto for a book riddled with basic historical inaccuracies, many involving the Royal Family.
At one point, he claims that Eton College was founded by ‘my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather’ King Henry VI.
In fact, Henry VI’s only son died childless five-and-a-half centuries ago, ending any direct lineage.
At another, he tells readers that Queen Victoria ‘was shot at eight times, on eight separate occasions, by seven different subjects’.
That is also untrue: Queen Victoria was actually shot at a total of three times. On four other occasions, weapons pointed at her were either unloaded or failed to discharge.
An eighth assassination attempt saw one Robert Pate strike her across the head with a cane.
2...If any fact-checkers were employed by Penguin, they failed to pick up on a host of frivolous errors. He claims, for example, that Princess Diana bought him an Xbox for his 13th birthday shortly before her death in 1997. But that can’t be true, since the Microsoft games console was first released in 2001.
The truth? Diana got him a Sony PlayStation from Harrods. Later, the prince tells how he used to buy clothes in discount store TK Maxx, saying: ‘I was particularly fond of their once-a-year sale.’ A cute anecdote. But not one the retailer finds convincing. It said this week: ‘We don’t actually do sales.’
3..
Charles’s reaction to his birth
Harry tells readers what his father ‘allegedly said’ to Princess Diana on the day of his birth in 1984: ‘Wonderful! Now you’ve given me an heir and a spare — my work is done.’ A joke, he presumes, before adding: ‘On the other hand, minutes after delivering this bit of high comedy, Pa was said to have gone off to meet his girlfriend.’
A pity he didn’t rely on his mother’s version of events.
According to Diana: Her True Story, the book she secretly collaborated on with Andrew Morton, what Prince Charles actually said was: ‘Oh, it’s a boy and he’s even got rusty hair.’ (A common Spencer family colouring.) Morton writes: ‘With these dismissive remarks he left to play polo.’ There was no mention of meeting a ‘girlfriend’. Perhaps that was because it was another two years before Charles reignited his affair with the then Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles. Indeed, Diana herself recalled the period around Harry’s birth was the happiest time of her entire marriage.
4.
Memories of his mother are among the most moving portions the book, and the rawness of his anger at her death is palpable as he accuses the paparazzi of playing an active part.
But do all his claims stack up? He writes that ‘the last thing Mummy saw on this Earth was a flashbulb’ and her last sound ‘would be a click’.
There is no excusing the despicable behaviour of men who continued to photograph Diana in the aftermath of the crash in the Alma tunnel in Paris, seven of whom were arrested (the rest fled after police arrived).
So could they have provided her last sights and sounds?
Paramedics who gave evidence at the princess’s inquest in 2007 revealed that they spoke to a conscious Diana for some time at the scene before she was transferred by ambulance to the city’s Pitie-Salpetriere hospital, where she died.
Sergeant Xavier Gourmelon, who was in charge of a medical team, told the coroner: ‘She was conscious; she could speak to me.’
5...
He admits he has little memory of the sad Sunday when he was with the royals at Balmoral. ‘I’ve seen photographs of us going to church . . . but they bring back no memories.’
He continues: ‘On the way back to Balmoral, a two-minute drive, it was suggested that we stop. People had been gathering all morning outside the front gates, some had begun leaving things.
‘Stuffed animals, flowers, cards. Acknowledgement should be made. We pulled over, stepped out . . . I could hear nothing but a rhythmic clicking from across the road. The Press. I reached out for my father’s hand, for comfort, then cursed myself, because that gesture set off an explosion of clicks.’
A moving scene — but it did not happen. After the church service on August 31, 1997, the royal cars proceeded without stopping at the gates. It wasn’t until four days later that Charles and his sons emerged to inspect the tributes.
6
Harry poignantly describes learning of the death of the 101-year-old Queen Mother in a telephone call while studying at Eton. ‘I wish I could remember whose voice was at the other end; a courtier’s, I believe. I recall that it was just before Easter, the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colours.’
He quotes the courtier saying: ‘Your Royal Highness, the Queen Mother has died.’
All very evocative but in portraying his family as aloof and uncaring — allowing a servant to give him the news — Harry is getting things wrong. He was not at school (it was the Easter holidays) nor was he even in Britain when his great-grandmother died on March 30, 2002.
Instead, he was skiing in the Swiss resort of Klosters with his father and brother. He had flown there two days earlier, despite suffering from glandular fever, and smilingly posed for a photocall with Charles and William.
It was actually his father who passed on the sad news, cutting short their holiday. The Queen gave permission for all three princes to break protocol and fly home on the same plane.
7..
Writing about his father’s disrupted 2005 marriage ceremony he says: ‘When the wedding did finally take place — without granny, who chose not to attend — it was almost cathartic for everyone, even me. Standing near the altar I mostly kept my head bowed.’
Once again his memory must be deceiving Harry. The Queen most certainly was at the wedding: she gave a speech at the reception and attended the service of blessing in St George’s chapel (though not the civil ceremony in Windsor Guildhall).
8..
Recounting his first date with Meghan, at Soho House, the Prince confidently recalls: ‘She was wearing a black sweater, jeans, heels.’
Funnily enough, his future bride remembers things differently. Back in 2018, she told a BBC documentary that the ‘something blue’ on their wedding day had actually been ‘fabric from the dress I wore on our first date’, stitched inside her gown.
9..
Harry repeats the canard — first aired by Meghan, in her Oprah interview — that newspapers cynically delayed publication of pictures that showed Thomas Markle collaborating with paparazzi until days before the wedding.
The reason, he alleges, was to inflict maximum damage. ‘Though the photos had been taken weeks before, they’d been held in reserve until the most devastating moment possible.’
Once again, not true. In reality, what Harry calls a ‘farcically staged’ picture showing Thomas Markle studying a book about Britain was first published in late March 2018, around seven weeks before the big day.
The following month, two further sets of photos were published. One showed Meghan’s dad lifting weights, the other being measured by a tailor. By this point, The Mail on Sunday had begun to suspect that the images were being cynically set up. A reporter sent to Mexico obtained CCTV footage from an internet cafe proving this to be true on May 12. It was then published within 24 hours. Far from being ‘held in reserve’, the story was splashed immediately.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...atch-elses.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop
Harry begins his memoir by plundering one of his favourite websites, Brainyquote.com: ‘The past is never dead. It’s not even past.’ It’s an unintentionally hilarious motto for a book riddled with basic historical inaccuracies, many involving the Royal Family.
At one point, he claims that Eton College was founded by ‘my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather’ King Henry VI.
In fact, Henry VI’s only son died childless five-and-a-half centuries ago, ending any direct lineage.
At another, he tells readers that Queen Victoria ‘was shot at eight times, on eight separate occasions, by seven different subjects’.
That is also untrue: Queen Victoria was actually shot at a total of three times. On four other occasions, weapons pointed at her were either unloaded or failed to discharge.
An eighth assassination attempt saw one Robert Pate strike her across the head with a cane.
2...If any fact-checkers were employed by Penguin, they failed to pick up on a host of frivolous errors. He claims, for example, that Princess Diana bought him an Xbox for his 13th birthday shortly before her death in 1997. But that can’t be true, since the Microsoft games console was first released in 2001.
The truth? Diana got him a Sony PlayStation from Harrods. Later, the prince tells how he used to buy clothes in discount store TK Maxx, saying: ‘I was particularly fond of their once-a-year sale.’ A cute anecdote. But not one the retailer finds convincing. It said this week: ‘We don’t actually do sales.’
3..
Charles’s reaction to his birth
Harry tells readers what his father ‘allegedly said’ to Princess Diana on the day of his birth in 1984: ‘Wonderful! Now you’ve given me an heir and a spare — my work is done.’ A joke, he presumes, before adding: ‘On the other hand, minutes after delivering this bit of high comedy, Pa was said to have gone off to meet his girlfriend.’
A pity he didn’t rely on his mother’s version of events.
According to Diana: Her True Story, the book she secretly collaborated on with Andrew Morton, what Prince Charles actually said was: ‘Oh, it’s a boy and he’s even got rusty hair.’ (A common Spencer family colouring.) Morton writes: ‘With these dismissive remarks he left to play polo.’ There was no mention of meeting a ‘girlfriend’. Perhaps that was because it was another two years before Charles reignited his affair with the then Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles. Indeed, Diana herself recalled the period around Harry’s birth was the happiest time of her entire marriage.
4.
Memories of his mother are among the most moving portions the book, and the rawness of his anger at her death is palpable as he accuses the paparazzi of playing an active part.
But do all his claims stack up? He writes that ‘the last thing Mummy saw on this Earth was a flashbulb’ and her last sound ‘would be a click’.
There is no excusing the despicable behaviour of men who continued to photograph Diana in the aftermath of the crash in the Alma tunnel in Paris, seven of whom were arrested (the rest fled after police arrived).
So could they have provided her last sights and sounds?
Paramedics who gave evidence at the princess’s inquest in 2007 revealed that they spoke to a conscious Diana for some time at the scene before she was transferred by ambulance to the city’s Pitie-Salpetriere hospital, where she died.
Sergeant Xavier Gourmelon, who was in charge of a medical team, told the coroner: ‘She was conscious; she could speak to me.’
5...
He admits he has little memory of the sad Sunday when he was with the royals at Balmoral. ‘I’ve seen photographs of us going to church . . . but they bring back no memories.’
He continues: ‘On the way back to Balmoral, a two-minute drive, it was suggested that we stop. People had been gathering all morning outside the front gates, some had begun leaving things.
‘Stuffed animals, flowers, cards. Acknowledgement should be made. We pulled over, stepped out . . . I could hear nothing but a rhythmic clicking from across the road. The Press. I reached out for my father’s hand, for comfort, then cursed myself, because that gesture set off an explosion of clicks.’
A moving scene — but it did not happen. After the church service on August 31, 1997, the royal cars proceeded without stopping at the gates. It wasn’t until four days later that Charles and his sons emerged to inspect the tributes.
6
Harry poignantly describes learning of the death of the 101-year-old Queen Mother in a telephone call while studying at Eton. ‘I wish I could remember whose voice was at the other end; a courtier’s, I believe. I recall that it was just before Easter, the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colours.’
He quotes the courtier saying: ‘Your Royal Highness, the Queen Mother has died.’
All very evocative but in portraying his family as aloof and uncaring — allowing a servant to give him the news — Harry is getting things wrong. He was not at school (it was the Easter holidays) nor was he even in Britain when his great-grandmother died on March 30, 2002.
Instead, he was skiing in the Swiss resort of Klosters with his father and brother. He had flown there two days earlier, despite suffering from glandular fever, and smilingly posed for a photocall with Charles and William.
It was actually his father who passed on the sad news, cutting short their holiday. The Queen gave permission for all three princes to break protocol and fly home on the same plane.
7..
Writing about his father’s disrupted 2005 marriage ceremony he says: ‘When the wedding did finally take place — without granny, who chose not to attend — it was almost cathartic for everyone, even me. Standing near the altar I mostly kept my head bowed.’
Once again his memory must be deceiving Harry. The Queen most certainly was at the wedding: she gave a speech at the reception and attended the service of blessing in St George’s chapel (though not the civil ceremony in Windsor Guildhall).
8..
Recounting his first date with Meghan, at Soho House, the Prince confidently recalls: ‘She was wearing a black sweater, jeans, heels.’
Funnily enough, his future bride remembers things differently. Back in 2018, she told a BBC documentary that the ‘something blue’ on their wedding day had actually been ‘fabric from the dress I wore on our first date’, stitched inside her gown.
9..
Harry repeats the canard — first aired by Meghan, in her Oprah interview — that newspapers cynically delayed publication of pictures that showed Thomas Markle collaborating with paparazzi until days before the wedding.
The reason, he alleges, was to inflict maximum damage. ‘Though the photos had been taken weeks before, they’d been held in reserve until the most devastating moment possible.’
Once again, not true. In reality, what Harry calls a ‘farcically staged’ picture showing Thomas Markle studying a book about Britain was first published in late March 2018, around seven weeks before the big day.
The following month, two further sets of photos were published. One showed Meghan’s dad lifting weights, the other being measured by a tailor. By this point, The Mail on Sunday had begun to suspect that the images were being cynically set up. A reporter sent to Mexico obtained CCTV footage from an internet cafe proving this to be true on May 12. It was then published within 24 hours. Far from being ‘held in reserve’, the story was splashed immediately.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...atch-elses.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop
hearlady
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The list is too long to read.
I'd rather take your word for it.
I'd rather take your word for it.
hollydolly
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Thanks but there is a link to the original report
hearlady
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Sorry Hollydolly, I just got up and have had one sip of coffee.
hollydolly
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LOL... you're absolutely forgiven...Sorry Hollydolly, I just got up and have had one sip of coffee.
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When the Duke and Duchess sat down with Oprah Winfrey last year (for what now looks like a blessedly short two hours) they made a series of hair-raising, damning accusations about their time as his’n’her HRHs, most notably of institutional racism and personal suffering.
However, they also managed to get in quite a few anecdotes that later turned out to not exactly tally with facts, like Meghan’s assertion they were married three-days before their multimillion-dollar Windsor wedding or her claim that after signing onto royal life, “that was the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport”.
Given that only the sovereign can travel without a passport, how then did the Duchess get to Amsterdam, New York, Ibiza and the French riviera for private jaunts? (There were also official trips to Australia, New Zealand, the South Pacific and Morocco.)
https://www.news.com.au/entertainme...m/news-story/da70c43e6fcd929168d512773ab183b9
However, they also managed to get in quite a few anecdotes that later turned out to not exactly tally with facts, like Meghan’s assertion they were married three-days before their multimillion-dollar Windsor wedding or her claim that after signing onto royal life, “that was the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport”.
Given that only the sovereign can travel without a passport, how then did the Duchess get to Amsterdam, New York, Ibiza and the French riviera for private jaunts? (There were also official trips to Australia, New Zealand, the South Pacific and Morocco.)
https://www.news.com.au/entertainme...m/news-story/da70c43e6fcd929168d512773ab183b9
Me too. "My truth," is just people ignoring the facts and claiming their feelings as truth. No! There is only one truth.
I can't say I don't like the neighbor woman's looks so my truth is that she's a witch. That is not anyone's truth it's a slanderous lie about her, because the truth is that there are no such things as witches.
What a shaky world we're getting into when alternate facts and personal opinions are classed as truth.
hollydolly
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you can invent anything you like about your life but you can't make it a Truth when it's a blatant lie involving other people..
You can say you flew on the wing of a Bi-plane while performing Brain surgery but you can't say that someone else was the pilot.. or someone else was the patient.. and not expect people to denounce you as a Liar...
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Some enterprising bartender should invent a cocktail.....My Truth..it could be right below Mai Tai on the drinks list.
hollydolly
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I see my truth thus.. ''You Pepper stole my life savings, while I sat nursing your dying cat.. while you laughed at me getting arrested and imprisoned because I tried to help you hide your stack of Heroin and Crack.'' and you did all this knowing my mother, father, uncle, greeat greeeat grandad had died.. .. ...woe is me.. thrice woe...
I hope you're ashamed.. this is my truth, so it must be true,..... and I'll tell it to everyone who is Gullible enough to believe it.. especially if they pay me £20 million
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hollydolly
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would you pay £20 million for it ?