King Charles 'evicts Prince Andrew from Buckingham Palace

Happyflowerlady said:
I was wondering about that. There is the old quote about ”an heir and a spare”, and I was thinking that Prince Harry named his book “Spare”, which made me think that if something were to happen to Prince William, then Harry would be King after King Charles died. Maybe that is not how it goes once Prince William is married and has children.
Thank you for explaining, @RadishRose !
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I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking if something happened to KING William. Then, it seemed you were asking if something happened to PRINCE William.

If Will died as a king, George would take over. If Will died before he became king, who would become king after Charles finally dies? I am not sure in that case.

We all had a discussion about the way back, but I forget... It can't be Ann because the law allowing females had not been in effect until recently. That would leave LOL... Andrew!

If both Charles and William were to die then the throne would be inherited by William's son, Prince George, but while he is under the age of 18 (until July 22, 2031), a regent would need to be appointed by law. This regent, under the 1937 Regency Act, would be Prince Harry.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...nce-william-and-king-charles-died/ar-AA13Xzll
 

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I think the title of Harry's book might be telling, "Spare". Is it that he feels he's only worth anything, if his brother dies. My brother is ten years younger than me, next month he'll be 68-but, he's still my kid brother. That's brothers!. I don't know how I'd feel having only "accidentle" worth.
Just thinking about it.
 
RadishRose said:
i misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking if something happened to KING William. Then, it seemed you were asking if something happened to PRINCE William.

If Will died as a king, George would take over. If Will died before he became king, who would become king after Charles finally dies? I am not sure in that case.

We all had a discussion about the way back, but I forget... It can't be Ann because the law allowing females had not been in effect until recently. That would leave LOL... Andrew!

If both Charles and William were to die then the throne would be inherited by William's son, Prince George, but while he is under the age of 18 (until July 22, 2031), a regent would need to be appointed by law. This regent, under the 1937 Regency Act, would be Prince Harry.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...nce-william-and-king-charles-died/ar-AA13Xzll
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Regardless of what the Monarchy Rules 1937 Regency Act states until now. There is no chance that Parliament would allow Harry to become Prince Regent on the death of Both William and Charles .. and while George still under 18 years old..

Another act would be passed to disbar him from doing so, I really feel strongly about that. Also a Prince or princess Regent have to be domiciled in the UK before they can take the title.. so that alone would Disbar Harry..... and in that case then, the Prince Regent would be prince Andrew until George became of age
 
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hollydolly said:
Regardless of what the Monarchy Rules 1937 Regency Act states until now. There is no chance that Parliament would allow Harry to become Prince Regent on the death of Both William and Charles .. and while George still under 18 years old..
hollydolly said:
Another act would be passed to disbar him from doing so, I really feel strongly about that
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Thanks, @hollydolly.

Are you sure another act would be passed to disbar him? Is that what parliament is talking about? But it would be moot anyway, if Harry stayed domiciled away from the UK, as you've said.
 
Pepper said:
I can't feel sorry for anyone born a multi millionaire. Just can't do it.
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I agree to a point, Pepper. Yet how would we feel if our only worth to the citizens and our parents, family, etc. was mainly to have assured the smooth continuance of a monarchy? Not for ourselves.

Altho' I'm an only child, I remember the jealousy and angst some of my young friends with siblings felt while growing up, unsure of their place of importance to their parents. Physical fights, sometimes.

Even I, an only child, while young... felt a sting of jealousy when my mother paid what I felt was too much attention to another child a few times.

Harry grew up knowing he was only a "spare". Not anymore of course, but as a child he did.
 
@RadishRose
Yeah, and when I was widowed I could have done with a stay in a plush rest home villa place and then a year's worth of 'round the world cruise, but nah, had to find a job pretty fast. It would have worked wonders. Sorry, girlfriend, no sale!
 
RadishRose said:
I agree to a point, Pepper. Yet how would we feel if our only worth to the citizens and our parents, family, etc. was mainly to have assured the smooth continuance of a monarchy? Not for ourselves.

Altho' I'm an only child, I remember the jealousy and angst some of my young friends with siblings felt while growing up, unsure of their place of importance to their parents. Physical fights, sometimes.

Even I, an only child, while young... felt a sting of jealousy when my mother paid what I felt was too much attention to another child a few times.

Harry grew up knowing he was only a "spare". Not anymore of course, but as a child he did.
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He might have been born ''a spare''.. but that's no different to any children who are born to their parents, and perhaps the eldest will be expected to follow father into his business.... it doesn't mean that the other children feel any less loved or that they would feel that any career they chose would be any less thought of by their family than the eldest following into the family business.. ..They would all be loved the same!

Harry has never wanted to be King.. neither has William as a matter of fact.. but William isn't crying that he's being forced into a job he doesn't want.. but Snivelling Entitled Snowflake Harry complains about having the life he chose to have... William didn't have that option..
 
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hollydolly said:
He might have been born ''a spare''.. but that's no different to any children who are born to their parents, and perhaps the eldest will be expected to follow father into his business.... it doesn't mean that the other children feel any less loved or that they would feel that any career they chose would be any less thought of by their family than the eldest following into the family business.. ..They would all be loved the same!

Harry has never wanted to be King.. neither has William as a matter of fact.. but William isn't crying that he's being forced into a job he doesn't want.. but Snivelling Entitled Snowflake Harry complains about having the life he chose to have... William didn't have that option..
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. William didn't have that option..
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Good point!
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Sometimes the youngers don't feel that way. Sometimes they don't feel '.They would all be loved the same!'. Who knows why some adjust and some don't, or can't.
 
RadishRose said:
Sometimes the youngers don't feel that way. Sometimes they don't feel '.They would all be loved the same!'. Who knows why some adjust and some don't, or can't.
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..but Harry and William were loved the same.. there's no question about that...

In my house growing up..with my siblings.. the 3rd youngest.. was the Blue eyed girl.. and she's was a manipulative little witch, still is.... but the sun shone out of her as far as my father was concerned. Probably saw some of himself in her..
 
This sounds really sick to me. And I'm not seeing the equal love for Harry by his father, King Charles. I even see more love for his brother Andrew than for Harry.

So as I understand it...
Prince Andrew, the accused Pedophile, is only getting a little hand slap (can't use his office anymore). But still lives in his luxurious Royal Lodge residence and invited to the Royal Christmas Party. And King Charles will still make sure Andrew gets financially compensated out of King Charles own pocket with the same Royal Salary he's been use to. So really, Andrew is not receiving much of a punishment.

Meanwhile Prince Harry, who never did anything even close to being a pedophile (whose only "crime" before the book was to marry a black female and move to California) was stripped of his title, uninvited to the Royal family events, and stripped of being a working member which meant less or no money and not compensated out of pocket by Prince Charles who cheated on Harry's mother, Princess Diana, and then crowned Diana's cheater, Camilla, a "Queen Consort" who immediately converted Prince Harry's bedroom into a room where her ladies-in-waiting dress and primp her.

I think Harry also lost security guards for his young family. Of course now that Harry told his story he's been totally "erased" from anything Royal including his family. That's a HUGE punishment. No forgiveness from King Charles aka his father.
 
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The New York Times clarified Prince Andrews financial deal with his rape accuser:

Prince Andrew, the disgraced second son of Queen Elizabeth II, has financially settled a lawsuit brought by Virginia Giuffre, a woman who had accused him of raping her when she was a teenage victim of Andrew’s friend...Jeffrey Epstein, according to a new court filing in Manhattan on Tuesday. The amount that Andrew, 61, will pay Ms. Giuffre is confidential, the parties said in a joint statement attached to the filing.

Andrew was forced to relinquish his military titles and royal charities, no longer was to use the title “His Royal Highness,” and was “not to undertake any public duties,” Buckingham Palace said in a statement last month.
 
Both boys appear to be very loved by their mother. Their father appears to be emotionally stunted so neither of them may feel very loved. This is all speculation of course.

Harry is luckier than most and really brought his family problems on himself when he moved to the states and started to tell the family business to the world. He has proven that he can’t be trusted. I will save my empathy for people that need it.
 
hollydolly said:
I think what is more likely is that, since the Queen stripped her favourite son of all his titles, Charles now as Monarch probably wants as little money spent on anything to do with Andrew.. so has ousted him from the Palace which is not a home but a set of Royal Offices basically.. and out of Official Royal Life forever, making a clean sweep and showing the public he's starting off with a scaled down Working Family!

Andrew will no doubt continue living in his very plush private home with his Divorced wife Fergie.. ( very odd arrangement there).. on the money he inherited from his Mothers' estate... so in reality, we'll see less of him in any official capacity... and probably more of his ex wife, advertising weight watchers or something..
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I know two people (male & female) who contined to live with their ex spouses for financial and practical reasons. I suspect there's many more ex spouses who are doing the same thing. Of course Andrew does not have money issues; at least he shouldn't.
 
Prince Andrew is to launch a dramatic bid to overturn the multi-million-pound settlement he struck with the woman who accused him of sexual assault.

The Duke of York has consulted lawyers in an attempt to get Virginia Roberts to retract her allegations and possibly secure an apology, The Mail on Sunday understands.

He was inspired to act after Ms Roberts dropped her lawsuit against another man she accused of sexual assault, admitting that she 'may have made a mistake' in identifying him.

And sources suggest the King will not oppose any legal action Andrew might take to clear his name – even though Charles previously told his brother he would be permanently exiled from Royal life.

Ms Roberts – who now goes by her married name Giuffre – claimed she was forced to have sex with the Prince when she was 17, having been trafficked by convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

In the out-of-court settlement, Andrew accepted no blame, and continues to strenuously deny any wrongdoing. But the scandal damaged his reputation and made him an outcast from the Royal Family. He was stripped of his military titles and asked not to use his HRH title.

However, those close to Andrew claim he always wanted to fight the allegations in court, and was 'bounced' into agreeing a deal by Palace forces who feared the negative publicity of the case would overshadow the Queen's Platinum Jubilee.

'Andrew felt as if he was in a pressure-cooker, as if he was given no option but to settle,' a source said. 'But he never wanted to settle and has always insisted he was innocent. He wants to see what legal routes might be available to him
'This isn't about the money. He wants a route back to some sort of normality after a deeply trying period. I can tell you with confidence that Prince Andrew's team is now considering legal options.'

American experts say he would have to file what is known as a 'motion to vacate the stipulation of settlement'. Andrew's team, led by high-flying lawyers Andrew Brettler and Blair Berk, would have to successfully show good legal reasons to overturn the deal, such as fraud, duress, mistake or accident, although it is not yet clear on what basis they might proceed.

News of his planned fightback comes as former socialite Ghislaine Maxwell gave her first filmed interview from the Florida jail where she is serving a 20-year sentence for procuring teenage girls for Epstein to abuse. In the conversation, to air on TalkTV tomorrow, she said the claims against her 'dear friend' Andrew are baseless – an intervention also said to have influenced his decision to challenge the settlement.

The Duke has cut a sorry figure in recent months, particularly since Charles banished him from Royal life. Friends and family feared for his state of mind and it is said he was in tears when he was told he could not wear military uniform for his mother's funeral.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...consults-lawyers-hope-ending-royal-exile.html
 
I'm not up on the Royals, but everyday after I boot up, there's a news blurb about which royal dissed that royal, snubbed the other royal, or some "palace insider" told about some trivial slight. It's the UK's version of "Jersey Shore". QEII's approval rate of 82% is now 33% with Charles III. What do Brits think of this?
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I'm not up on the Royals, but everyday after I boot up, there's a news blurb about which royal dissed that royal, snubbed the other royal, or some "palace insider" told about some trivial slight. It's the UK's version of "Jersey Shore". QEII's approval rate of 82% is now 33% with Charles III. What do Brits think of this?
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Good God , give the guy a Break, he's not even been officially crowned yet !!
 
Lara said:
This sounds really sick to me. And I'm not seeing the equal love for Harry by his father, King Charles. I even see more love for his brother Andrew than for Harry.

So as I understand it...
Prince Andrew, the accused Pedophile, is only getting a little hand slap (can't use his office anymore). But still lives in his luxurious Royal Lodge residence and invited to the Royal Christmas Party. And King Charles will still make sure Andrew gets financially compensated out of King Charles own pocket with the same Royal Salary he's been use to. So really, Andrew is not receiving much of a punishment.

Meanwhile Prince Harry, who never did anything even close to being a pedophile (whose only "crime" before the book was to marry a black female and move to California) was stripped of his title,
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Why is Meaghan referred to as a black female when her father is white and her mother is black, does one take precedence over the other?
 
RobinWren said:
Why is Meaghan referred to as a black female when her father is white and her mother is black, does one take precedence over the other?
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Apparently according to all her friends from Pre Harry..she never ever referred to herself as Black...
 

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