Telling lies

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Rose65

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Do you tell lies?

I think it is impossible to live and get along in life without lying. Lies, direct and indirect can be for diplomatic reasons and to maintain privacy. Yet there are many matters about which honesty is very undesirable. Often I am just suitably vague or neutral, in the interests of keeping the peace.

Nobody wants to admit to lying but I bet everyone does - except perhaps a rare saint of a person.

The novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky said 'The most difficult thing in life is to live and not lie'. Would you agree or not?
 

There are times when lying is appropriate.
Example: My ex wife was a terrible cook. And whenever she tried to cook dinner, she was always stressed about it.
She tried to make a dinner with fish. It was so rubbery, my teeth hurt trying to chew it.
She kept asking me how it was. I said, "Honey, it could cure the sick."
Sometimes, she'd say, "I'm going to make dinner."
I'd say, "Ya know, honey, I'm really craving pizza tonight."
A few times, she'd say, "I invited friends over for dinner."
I'd say, "Why don't we all go out for dinner; it's more romantic."
 

Rose65 said:
Do you tell lies?

I think it is impossible to live and get along in life without lying. Lies, direct and indirect can be for diplomatic reasons and to maintain privacy. Yet there are many matters about which honesty is very undesirable. Often I am just suitably vague or neutral, in the interests of keeping the peace.

Nobody wants to admit to lying but I bet everyone does - except perhaps a rare saint of a person.

The novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky said 'The most difficult thing in life is to live and not lie'. Would you agree or not?
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I;m kinda OCD about lies...if there's such a thing.. altho' in some ways that's a little bit hypocritical because I have been known to tell a fib plenty times when it's to save a situation.. or to spare someone's feelings.. but I absolutely abhor lies or being lied to..

I'd rather someone just told me the truth..and maybe hurt my feelings once.. than lie to me, and for me to find out later, and be hurt or angry twice..

When my daughter was about 6 years old, she suddenly started telling little lies when she got home from school.. and I had to nip that in the Bud.. so I used to tell her that I knew she was lying to me , because every time she did her eyes would turn green.. bless her little heart, she believed me , and it stopped the lies.. but of course I had to lie in that situation myself to get her to stop..
 
Do I agree with Dostoevsky's statement? No! Absolutely not!

Truth is only as it can be perceived on earth and only by the soul's level of awareness.
These are ever changing, unfolding perceptions.

Truth stands straight and tall.
It can't be moved, deterred, conjured or deceived.
It's fulfilled within itself.
It's a most coveted quality of the soul.
When this becomes a part of you, it's a tremendous step in the growth of your soul.
As you evolve, lying becomes foreign to you. It's not even in your realm of possibility.
 
Well, they're times where you have to lie to survive.

However, I prefer honesty. LOL who doesn't. Wee white lies here and there providing it doesn't hurt anyone, they're great!

What I hated is when I did tell the truth and no one believed me. Sadly, it carried on into adulthood and that's annoying. I'll try to tell the truth as much as possible with a few white lies here and there. Got to do it to survive. Nevertheless, I hate being lied to and I can spot it a mile away ahahah...
 
hollydolly said:
When my daughter was about 6 years old, she suddenly started telling little lies when she got home from school.. and I had to nip that in the Bud.. so I used to tell her that I knew she was lying to me , because every time she did her eyes would turn green.. bless her little heart, she believed me , and it stopped the lies.. but of course I had to lie in that situation myself to get her to stop..
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There's a big difference between a big whopper and a little porkie.
 
I think we all have different definitions of lying. On another forum, we were discussing whether a romantic prospect was giving someone the brushoff. Someone said no, if he was ending it, he would have said so. To me, he did say so, very clearly, but in a "polite" way. Where do you draw the line?
 
win231 said:
There are times when lying is appropriate.
Example: My ex wife was a terrible cook. And whenever she tried to cook dinner, she was always stressed about it.
She tried to make a dinner with fish. It was so rubbery, my teeth hurt trying to chew it.
She kept asking me how it was. I said, "Honey, it could cure the sick."
Sometimes, she'd say, "I'm going to make dinner."
I'd say, "Ya know, honey, I'm really craving pizza tonight."
A few times, she'd say, "I invited friends over for dinner."
I'd say, "Why don't we all go out for dinner; it's more romantic."
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The wife of "DC Barnaby" of "Midsomer Murders" was a bad cook too. At every opportunity he tried to avoid eating at home. :D
 
hollydolly said:
When my daughter was about 6 years old, she suddenly started telling little lies when she got home from school.. and I had to nip that in the Bud.. so I used to tell her that I knew she was lying to me , because every time she did her eyes would turn green.. bless her little heart, she believed me , and it stopped the lies.. but of course I had to lie in that situation myself to get her to stop..
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Holly, you have to be glad, that your daughter did not look into a mirror when you told her this. Otherwise she'd have noticed your lie.:)
 
No one likes to be lied to or to admit to lying, but we all lie, regardless of how big or small the lies are. When someone asks you, "How are you?" and you reply, "I'm fine," when you're anything but fine, that's a lie. When someone invites you out and you don't feel like going and say, "Sorry, I can't, I'm busy," that's a lie. Everyone lies, it's just a matter of degrees.

I'm as truthful as I can be, and at times, I'm as truthful as I want to be. I'll occasionally lie to spare someone's feelings. In general, I tell the truth. In particular, I don't deceive myself.

Bella ✌️
 
Yes, I have lied, but mostly when I was a child, I think. The concept of "lies of omission" is something I am still strugling with. We cannot tell all, it is not possible. It can even be unethical or destructive. Some things need to be kept private.

I cannot remember just telling a bald faced lie since I was a child. I don't even know how to relate to people who can do that.
 
Gaer said:
Do I agree with Dostoevsky's statement? No! Absolutely not!

Truth is only as it can be perceived on earth and only by the soul's level of awareness.
These are ever changing, unfolding perceptions.

Truth stands straight and tall.
It can't be moved, deterred, conjured or deceived.
It's fulfilled within itself.
It's a most coveted quality of the soul.
When this becomes a part of you, it's a tremendous step in the growth of your soul.
As you evolve, lying becomes foreign to you. It's not even in your realm of possibility.
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So if a female friend asks you if you think she is fat, would you say oh yes, you really have piled the pounds on, best you don't have dessert!

I do think however you have a point. Small harmless lies are in my view ok. Anything harmful, deceitful or criminal certainly is not. Maybe it is about good judgment and knowing the line never to cross.
 
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