Florida lawmakers have voted to strip Walt Disney of its special self-governing status

Well perhaps now they could get the services they need. But remember…that was ground that was remote and bare. Much was swamp. They had to build it all…
 

I remember Orlando before Disney, a one stop cow town...

For years I hated Disney, when I lived in Florida I was often asked how far I lived from Disney, my standard answer was "not far enough".

Now I see the whole Orlando theme park mess as a kind of fly paper, keeping the tourist crowds away from my favorite Florida spots...

I have only been to Disney World once, to attend a conference held there. Never got further than the hotel... However I remember visiting Disneyland when I was about 12 and have to admit I really enjoyed it.
 
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Disney owes a huge amount for the "improvements" of their properties. And guess who gets to pay that off- Florida citizens. The bill provides for assuming debt incurred by Disney. So they get the "improvements" without paying for them.
That doesn't sound right.

Normally developers pay the cost of improvements like roads, water & sewer, etc. and then give them to the city or county. Developers recover that cost from the sales of homes or lots, so the buyers really pay. Seems like that is the way this should have worked, either leave the debt with Disney or transfer to current property owners...
 
That doesn't sound right.

Normally developers pay the cost of improvements like roads, water & sewer, etc. and then give them to the city or county. Developers recover that cost from the sales of homes or lots, so the buyers really pay. Seems like that is the way this should have worked, either leave the debt with Disney or transfer to current property owners...
The Florida bill specifies that the new legal entity will assume all debt.
 
Part 3 Bay Lake, Lake Bueno Vista & Celebration

Bay Lake

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www.rcid.org/about/city-of-bay-lake/

www.citydirectory.us/city-bay-lake.html

www.facebook.com/places/Things-to-do-in-Bay-Lake-Florida/109515905734933/

www.twitter.com/BayLakeSociety

www.instagram.com/explore/locations/509730/bay-lake-tower-at-disneys-contemporary-resort/

www.indeed.com/cmp/Disney-Parks-Exp[eriences-and-Products/reviews?fcountry=US&floc=Bay+Lake%2C+FL

www.gettyimages.com/photos/animal-kingdom-bay-lake

www.alamy.com/stock-photo/bay-lake-florida.html?sortBy=relevant

www.city-data.com/city/Bay-Lake-Florida.html

www.city-data.com/forum/orlando/205812-does-anyone-live-dsney-world.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Lake_Florida


Lake Buena Vista

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www.rcid.org/about/city-of-lake-buena-vista/

www.facebook.com/places/Things-to-do-in-Lake-Buena-Vista-Florida/112090445474804/

www.twitter.com/LBVHistory

www.instagram.com/lbvrlandoresort/?hl=en

www.lake-buenavista.tumblr.com/

www.gettyimages.com/photos/buena-vista-florida

www.pinterest.com/sstoio/lake-buena-vista-florida/

www.alamy.com/stock-photo/lake-buena-vista-florida.html?sortBy=relevant

www.indeed.com/cmp/Lake-Buena-Vista-Resort-Village-and-spa/reviews

www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Basin-Lake-Buena-Vista-Reviews

www.city-data.com/city/Lake-Buena-Vista-Florida.html

www.city-data.com/forum/florida/821281-lake-buena-vista-fl.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Buena_Vista_Florida


Celebration

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https://celebration.fl.us

www.facebook.com/CelebrationTownHall/

www.twitter.com/celebrationth?lang=en

www.instagram.com/celebration.florida/?hl=en

www.tumblr.com/corndogmainst./710615240138801152

www.indeed.com/cmp/Celebration/reviews

www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/AdventHealth-Celebration-Reviews-E3106620.htm

www.city-data.com/city/Celebration-Florida.html

www.city-data.com/forum/orlando/3268166-celebration-florida-nice-seems.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida


Disney World Employee Relations

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www.signalhire.com/companies/walt-disney-world/employees

www.disneyfanatic.com/rigorous-requirements-for-being-a-disney-cast-member-lh1/

www.hbr.org/sponsored/2018/02/disney-defines-its-corporate-culture-by-the-actions-of-its-leaders

www.jwj.org/disney-world-is-anything-but-magical-for-its-employees

www.nypost.com/2019/09/23/working-at-disney-world-can-be-an-abusive-nightmare/

www.thestreet.com/travel/disney-world-labor-problem-worker-strike-wages

www.thenation.com/article/economy/disney-iger-labor/

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/ju/07

www.wou.edu/westernhowl/the-disney-companys-recent-controversy/

www.theconversation.com/disney-hasnt-found-itself-in-this-much-trouble-since-1941-182206

www.thegamer.com/mind-blowing-disney-scanals-yo-didnt-know-about/

www.allears.net/2021/08/22/the-biggest-scandals-in-disney-world-history/

www.bestforfilm.com/film-blog/10-reasons-disney-are-unspeakably-evil/

www.reelrundown.com/animation/Recent-Disney-Scandals

https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Cast_member

www.quora.com/Whats-so-bad-about-Disney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_World_Casting_Center

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Walt_Disney_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Disney_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Disney_controversies


The Disney World, Reedy Creek Celebration Fiasco

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https://celebration.fl.us

www.thedailybeast.com/celebration-florida-how-disneys-community-of-tomorrow-became-a-total-nightmare

https://florida-backroads-travel.com/celebration-florida.htmnl

www.gizmodo.com/celebration-florida-the-utopian-town-that-america-jus-1564479405

www.thedriftmag.com/not-so-magic-kingdo/

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/ar...wland-in-patient-care-unless-its-luck-changes

www.nytimes.com/1997/12/14/magazine/town-building-is-no-mickey-mouse-operation.html

www.insidethemagic.net/2022/01/disney-celebration-problems-ad1/

 
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I remember Orlando before Disney, a one stop cow town...

For years I hated Disney, when I lived in Florida I was often asked how far I lived from Disney, my standard answer was "not far enough".

Now I see the whole Orlando theme park mess as a kind of fly paper, keeping the tourist crowds away from my favorite Florida spots...

I have only been to Disney World once, to attend a conference held there. Never got further than the hotel... However I remember visiting Disneyland when I was about 12 and have to admit I really enjoyed it.
I remember it as well. We moved to Tampa in 1966. We used to visit Disney World every time our relatives and friends from other states came to visit. The entrance costs were astronomical and the mediocre food was expensive. I can't even count how many times I've been there.

In the travel industry, they used to spend tons of money bring entire productions on stage at conferences. Anyone who worked for them had to follow their corporate line to the letter. Some employees even lived in Celebration, their contrived version of the ideal town.


I don't agree with the reason for this turn of events, but at the same time I have no love for Disney as a corporation.
 

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