Clocks…..Time Telling …..

charry

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Wow , I didn’t know wether to laugh or cry. My grandson said they do not have numbered clocks in school as pupils cannot understand telling the time . He said when he says quarter too , or ten past etc , he has to explain to them the time . These are sixteen year olds. When doing exams they put up digital clocks. What the hell has happened to basic teaching.😵‍💫🤓
 

The focus is on social behavior now. Schools are trying to create a perfect society, apparently believing that an uneducated society is perfect.
Yes... not to mention the average teacher salary nationwide is (according to ZipRecruiter) $33k.... and $5k less than that in my state. Not a lot of incentive to be a great teacher with what they have to deal with including first graders showing up with weapons and having to teach what to do if there's an active shooter incident. Just for comparison I asked for the average salary for a McDonald's cashier. Nearly $28k. That's all kinds of screwed up. :(
 
Yes... not to mention the average teacher salary nationwide is (according to ZipRecruiter) $33k.... and $5k less than that in my state. Not a lot of incentive to be a great teacher with what they have to deal with including first graders showing up with weapons and having to teach what to do if there's an active shooter incident. Just for comparison I asked for the average salary for a McDonald's cashier. Nearly $28k. That's all kinds of screwed up. :(
So-called "child psychologists" get paid even less than teachers. But, of course, they're not required to have years of education and training anymore, so they're counseling troubled children with only a little more education than your average burger-flipper.
 
Yes... not to mention the average teacher salary nationwide is (according to ZipRecruiter) $33k.... and $5k less than that in my state. Not a lot of incentive to be a great teacher with what they have to deal with including first graders showing up with weapons and having to teach what to do if there's an active shooter incident. Just for comparison I asked for the average salary for a McDonald's cashier. Nearly $28k. That's all kinds of screwed up. :(
It may not be quite that bad. According to the National Teachers Assoc. the average starting salary is $41,700. At USAfacts.org the average for all teachers for 2021 was $65,090. And remember, that includes almost 3 months off.
 
It may not be quite that bad. According to the National Teachers Assoc. the average starting salary is $41,700. At USAfacts.org the average for all teachers for 2021 was $65,090. And remember, that includes almost 3 months off.
The ZipRecruiter list was from 2023 since everything is so transparent about salaries now. Hmmm... I'll have to check Monster and maybe a few more. I'll post if I find something different. And states *do* vary.
EDIT: Okay, according to salary.com, the starting salary in my state PLUS my city is a little better than the ZR salaries but still very far from what it should be.
 
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For years I just thought my son's mental health was to blame for him not being able to write his name (hee, hee). My 10 year old granddaughter is teaching herself how to write cursive. Also, that same son didn't know what quarter to the hour was.
 
Wow , I didn’t know wether to laugh or cry. My grandson said they do not have numbered clocks in school as pupils cannot understand telling the time . He said when he says quarter too , or ten past etc , he has to explain to them the time . These are sixteen year olds. When doing exams they put up digital clocks. What the hell has happened to basic teaching.😵‍💫🤓
So why don't his parents teach him? I learned to tell time at home. That's also where I learned how to tie my shoes, pay for things using cash and knowing whether or not I received the correct change.

I used what my parents taught me about money to properly give change, counting back as I went.
That's $2.24 out of $5.00." Handed a penny and said, that's $2.25, handed three quarters and said, "that's $3.00" then handed two singles one at a time, saying "that's $4.00 and $5.00."

We will have our older grandchildren (11 & 8) for a couple of days at the end of the month. Think I'll round up a bunch of change and cash and play store with them while teaching how to give change the old fashioned way. They'll love it, I'm sure.

Schools aren't responsible for everything. When there are gaps in a kid's education, parents can complain or they can pick up the slack.
 
Schools aren't responsible for everything. When there are gaps in a kid's education, parents can complain or they can pick up the slack.
I worked with a woman years ago and when her son started school, he was sent home with a note asking why he couldn't read. That woman was quite miffed at this and claimed it was the school's job to teach kids to read and write. And this was an attitude of a college-educated professional person.

When I started school, it was just the opposite. My mother taught me to read and write before I started school. The teacher was amazed. She sent a note home saying in essence that it put me ahead of the other children and I'd just have to sit in class until the others learned.
 
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I worked with a woman years ago and when her son started school, he was sent home with a note asking why he couldn't read. That woman was quite miffed at this and claimed it was the school's job to teach kids to read and write. And this was an attitude of a college-educated professional person.
Most five year olds can't read when they start kindergarten, but a lot of parents and preschools make sure children are somewhat familiar with the alphabet, can spell and write their own names (mostly scrawl, but still), and can follow simple instructions, sit quietly at your desks, line up for recess, etc.

If my kids hadn't progressed with identifying - and therefore "reading" - simple words during kindergarten, I'd have intervened. Ultimately, it's the parents' job to make sure our children are educated. Just as it's our job to make sure they're healthy, well nourished, well rested, and reasonably civilized.
 
Schools aren't responsible for everything. When there are gaps in a kid's education, parents can complain or they can pick up the slack.
I worked with a woman years ago and when her son started school, he was sent home with a note asking why he couldn't read. That woman was quite miffed at this and claimed it was the school's job to teach kids to read and write. And this was an attitude of a college-educated professional person.
But schools are responsible for teaching academics.

I agree that if your kid is lagging behind then you need to help him catch up or catch on or find someone who will. Unfortunately, "new academics" is a huge rock in that road. My daughter got a tung-lashing from her son's math teacher for showing him long-division the old way. But after she did, he understood what division is. Before, he had no clue and couldn't reason why division was even a thing.

So guess what? She used an old alarm clock as an example of dividing something into quarters.
 
Not only that⬆️...they don't know how 'to make change'..
Given a dollar for a .49 item.🙄
This is true. Not that I'm great at math. Once at a store I bought something for about $16.21 or so. I gave a 20, a 1 and 21 cents, so I could get a 5 back. The register was down and this young woman couldn't figure it out. And they put me in classes for slow learners. :rolleyes:
 
Analog clocks went out with landline phones. Right now the big hand is on 3 and the little hand is on 5.
Not. I still use both. The clock because I like it and the landline because there's no wireless service here, as in a lot of places STILL. I still use a wind-up watch for those rare times I need one. No worries about the battery going dead just when I need it.
 
GPS is causing a lot of people to weaken the part of their brain that does spatial navigation.

Look on the bright side, if the young ever decide to put all the oldies in a camp, we can plan a break out writing cursive notes to each other, time our escape by analog clocks, and give them backwards verbal directions about where we are.

I predict in two generations all the babies will have very long thumbs.
 


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