Not religion but another subject that fascinates me: Mysticism!

Old Salt

Old Salt

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I know perfectly sane people who can see auras on others, changing with their moods. One person I know is an empath! I swear to her truthfulness and integrity! There have been mystics throughout the ages.

I am defining mystics rather broadly as people who can sense and see things others don't, be it an aura, people's thoughts, or the divine. Is there something about their brain chemistry that is different from ours? Are they the beginning of the next step in our evolution? I am definitely excluding delusions caused by mental illness, the folks I know with those "gifts" are eminently sane!
 

Evada said:
The greatest scientist of all, Sir Isaac Newton, was a passionate alchemist, but I won't equate that with mysticism.
Here are some famous mystics: List Of 11 Famous Mystics in History - Insight state
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I looked at your list and was struck by Meister Eckhart's remark: "the majority of human concepts of God tell us more about ourselves than about God." I love that!

Sorry, I was going to keep religion out of this, but I guess it's inevitable when looking at a list of mystics from the past.

General question: Do you know of anyone who has some of the gifts I mentioned?
 

i don’t believe in mysticism or magic. In my limited understanding of both neither is shown to be true. Even the unexplained can be defined outside the norm of reason.

Magic is the exertion of power to make things happen at will. Mysticism is power granted from spiritual sources.
 
Mr. Ed said:
i don’t believe in mysticism or magic. In my limited understanding of both neither is shown to be true. Even the unexplained can be defined outside the norm of reason.

Magic is the exertion of power to make things happen at will. Mysticism is power granted from spiritual sources.
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I respect your opinion. Let me hasten to add: I don't believe in magic either! And maybe I misnamed the subject because I am not necessarily talking about a "mystic" experience but about the unusual abilities some people possess. And I swear to the truth of my observations, re. auras and empaths!
 
Please ignore my thread. Mysticism isn't actually what I had in mind. Special gifts (or mental abilities) would have been more like it. I will start that subject up again some other time!
 
Mr. Ed said:
i don’t believe in mysticism or magic. In my limited understanding of both neither is shown to be true. Even the unexplained can be defined outside the norm of reason.

Magic is the exertion of power to make things happen at will. Mysticism is power granted from spiritual sources.
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What do you believe in?
 
The only ability I've ever had was "red flags" that something wasn't right. One instance was a person I declined giving a ride in the pouring rain 40 yrs ago. I strongly believe I did the right thing.
In January 2020 I had a strong feeling something was wrong. I thought it had to do with work in the coming year. In February I contracted Covid, and so did millions of others that year.
 
Old Salt said:
I know perfectly sane people who can see auras on others, changing with their moods. One person I know is an empath! I swear to her truthfulness and integrity! There have been mystics throughout the ages.

I am defining mystics rather broadly as people who can sense and see things others don't, be it an aura, people's thoughts, or the divine. Is there something about their brain chemistry that is different from ours? Are they the beginning of the next step in our evolution? I am definitely excluding delusions caused by mental illness, the folks I know with those "gifts" are eminently sane!
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I'm an empath but cannot see auras. I have precognitive dreams and have seen ghosts and angels. I do believe in magic and in magic spells and hexes. I have seen them work. It's a good question if the brains of people who are these things and can do these things are wired differently. Maybe they are just more aware? :unsure:

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The total number of humans who have ever lived is about 117 billion. The current population of the planet is about 8 billion. That leaves 109 billion possible ghosts. So why are ghosts so rare? We should be drowning in them. But even if only 1% are ghosts that still leaves over 1 billion. Where are they?
 
I've written this before as it is in my books.

Concerning powers of the psychic; as voices, visions, ghost communications, and any powers attained through delusion, incantations, or unnatural substances are not to be sought.
This will only distract you from the growth of your soul. The true powers will come naturally as one expands his consciousness and evolves
the soul toward God. Your perception expands to see and feel unknown entities.
People are ignorant of forces outside earth. The creation of bringing evil forces forward is not to be practiced. This could harm all on earth.
Any powers received from other than God are self-deception.
I also, (as Chic), am surrounded by Holy Angels. I communicate with only the highest, most pure, heavenly entities. I've experienced blissfulness
unimaginable from both TM and from the angelic forces.
 

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Gaer said:
I've written this before as it is in my books.

Concerning powers of the psychic; as voices, visions, ghost communications, and any powers attained through delusion, incantations, or unnatural substances are not to be sought.
This will only distract you from the growth of your soul. The true powers will come naturally as one expands his consciousness and evolves
the soul toward God. Your perception expands to see and feel unknown entities.
People are ignorant of forces outside earth. The creation of bringing evil forces forward is not to be practiced. This could harm all on earth.
Any powers received from other than God are self-deception.
I also, (as Chic), am surrounded by Holy Angels. I communicate with only the highest, most pure, heavenly entities. I've experienced blissfulness
unimaginable from both TM and from the angelic forces.
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Some psychic ability can occur during extreme trauma without delusions, drugs or being sought. Not being distracted by something so traumatic is practically impossible. A traumatized mind automatically repeats the trauma over and over again to seek meaning and understanding.
Even if the mind has no memory, the body certainly does.

The way you’ve written this makes it seem like psychic abilities are divided into holy and unholy psychic abilities and, in my opinion, is a very biased viewpoint.

Not all people are ignorant of forces outside earth. In fact throughout history many people feel the moon has an impact on their emotional well being and considering that the moon is responsible for the changing of our oceans tides, how could it not impact us as humans when we are 60% water?

There are many people who feel when there is a full moon.
 
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Some psychic ability can occur during extreme trauma without delusions, drugs or being sought. Not being distracted by something so traumatic is practically impossible. A traumatized mind automatically repeats the trauma over and over again to seek meaning and understanding.
Even if the mind has no memory, the body certainly does.

The way you’ve written this makes it seem like psychic abilities are divided into holy and unholy psychic abilities and, in my opinion, is a very biased viewpoint.

Not all people are ignorant of forces outside earth. In fact throughout history many people feel the moon has an impact on their emotional well being and considering that the moon is responsible for the changing of our oceans tides, how could it not impact us as humans when we are 60% water?
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Of course the moon has influence over the human body.
I was not speaking of natural features of the Cosmos.

I was mentioning to not get caught up in small things, distractions from the goal of gaining enlightenment.
Nothing else, NOTHING ELSE is significant compared to evolving into an exalted state of consciousness.
I've had so many "supernatural experiences" and "ghosts" and "psychic happenings" but it's important
to give them no worth and most certainly don't encourage this. Extremely low entities who died and were
afraid to lift with the Holy Angels walk the earth and try everything they can to communicate with anyone
who will give them attention.
IIMO, This life would be better spent gaining fulfillment of the soul. All psychic abilities will be given to you in a
natural fashion as you evolve, and the unwanted things will fall away in a natural fashion.
Does that make any sense? Sometimes I don't explain things understandably.
 
I guess you are talking about if it’s possible for a person not to get to distracted by anything more significant than enlightenment of the soul and i certainly agree with you but sometimes trauma hits or life has other plans than are beyond your ability to do anything about them.

Purposely getting involved with ghosts who vibrate at very low frequencies certainly isn’t soul enlightening. No! Apparently ghosts are lost souls who didn’t follow the light. Some might not even realize they are even dead.
We agree with that one.

In a perfect world it would be good to not give any attention to things you can’t possibly explain that aren’t really of this world but in the course of healing trauma , exposure is what heals.

Ideally none of us should get too wrapped up in fear but stuff happens

It’ seems like religion has a way of dismissing our 6th sense as something to fear when in reality it was a sure way of protecting ourselves.

Anyway I wasn’t challenging your beliefs. Just asking for clarification. Thank you
 

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