I have always struggled with meatloaf, advice please

My family loves meatloaf & I have several different recipes. This is the one I grew up on.
That's basically my family recipe too, @Lilac ... (sans cheese.) I've always used just a pound of meat and adjusted the rest accordingly. Always the fresh bread torn up... a slice or two. My recipe calls for 8 oz tomato sauce in the meat and 8 oz in the topping and also a wee little squirt of mustard in the topping. Brown sugar is enough to lighten the tomato sauce flavor... maybe a tbsp... maybe two. I enjoy trying all kinds of meatloaf recipes... Pioneer Woman's is good.... as well as her Sloppy Joe recipe. I've never been a fan of dry, tasteless meatloaf.
 

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That's basically my family recipe too, @Lilac ... (sans cheese.) I've always used just a pound of meat and adjusted the rest accordingly. Always the fresh bread torn up... a slice or two. My recipe calls for 8 oz tomato sauce in the meat and 8 oz in the topping and also a wee little squirt of mustard in the topping. Brown sugar is enough to lighten the tomato sauce flavor... maybe a tbsp... maybe two. I enjoy trying all kinds of meatloaf recipes... Pioneer Woman's is good.... as well as her Sloppy Joe recipes. I've never been a fan of dry, tasteless meatloaf.
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Most people will run from this recipe. It's not for the faint of heart because it's labor intensive. It's also the best meatloaf recipe I've tried. I've been making it since 2006 when I saw it in Cook's Illustrated magazine.

Glazed Meatloaf

Meat Loaf:

  • 3 ounces Monterey Jack cheese, grated on small holes of a box grater (about 1 cup)
  • 1 Tablespoon unsalted butter
  • I medium onion, chopped fine (about 1 cup)
  • 1 medium celery rib, chopped fine, (about 1/2 cup)
  • 1 medium garlic clove, minced or pressed through garlic press (about 1 teaspoon)
  • 2 teaspoons minced fresh thyme leaves
  • 1 teaspoon paprika
  • 1/4 cup tomato juice
  • 1/2 cup low-sodium chicken broth
  • 2 large eggs
  • 1/2 teaspoon unflavored powdered gelatin (see note)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce
  • 1 teaspoon Dijon mustard
  • 2/3 cup crushed saltine crackers
  • 2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley leaves
  • 3/4 tsp table salt
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
  • 1 pound ground sirloin (I use a combination of 1 lb ground beef and 1 lb ground pork)
  • 1 pound ground chuck ( ^ )

Glaze:
  • 1/2 cup ketchup
  • 1 teaspoon hot pepper sauce
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground coriander
  • 1/4 cup apple cider vinegar
  • 3 tablespoons packed light brown sugar

1 - Adjust oven rack to middle position: heat oven to 375 degrees. Spread grated cheese on a plate and place in the freezer until ready to use. Prepare a baking sheet. See note below.

Note from Cook's Illustrated: Allowing meatloaf to stew in its own juice makes for a greasy mess. Here's our solution: Cover an metal cooling rack (I use a 9"x13" rack) with heavy duty aluminum foil and place over a rimmed baking sheet. Poke holes in the foil with a skewer about half an inch apart. Spray with non- stick cooking spray or coat with a thin film of oil. There is no loaf pan. You're going to free form the meatloaf into a 10"x6" loaf on top of this rack.

2 - Heat butter in a 10-inch skillet over medium-high heat until foaming; add onion and celery and cook, stirring occasionally. until beginning to brown, 6 to 8 minutes. Add garlic, thyme, and paprika and cook, stirring, until fragrant, about one minute. Reduce heat to low and add tomato juice. Cook, stirring to scrape up browned bits from the pan, until thickened, about one minute. Transfer mixture to a bowl and set aside to cool.

3 - Whisk broth and eggs in a large bowl until combined. Sprinkle gelatin over liquid and let it stand for five minutes. Stir soy sauce, mustard, saltines, parsley, salt, pepper, and onion mixture. Add ground beef; mix gently with hands until thoroughly combined, about one minute. Transfer meat to the foil lined rack and shape into a 10 by 6-inch oval about 2 inches high. Smooth top and edges of meatloaf with a moistened spatula. Bake until an instant-read thermometer inserted into the center of the loaf reads 135 to 140 degrees, about 55 to 65 minutes. (My note: I would check it sooner. I'm use farm raised meat so my meatloaf is done in 40 minutes.)

4 - While the meatloaf cooks, combine ingredients for glaze in a small saucepan, bring to a simmer over medium heat and cook, stirring, until thick and syrupy, about five minutes. (My note: I find it takes longer to thicken up. Your mileage may vary.) Spread half the glaze over the cooked meatloaf with a rubber/silicone spatula and place under the broiler and cook until the glaze bubbles and begins to brown at the edges, about five minute. Remove meatloaf from the oven and spread evenly with remaining glaze; place back under the broiler and cook until glaze is again bubbling and beginning to brown, about five minutes. Let the meatloaf rest for twenty minutes before slicing.

Here's a little understanding of food science for you. It's helpful to know.

Cook's Illustrated Notes:

How Gelatin Mimics Veal


Many meatloaf recipes call for three different meats (beef, pork, veal), and each one has a core function. Beef contributes assertive beefiness, while pork adds a dimension of flavor and extra fattiness. With veal, it's mostly about the gelatin - a viscous substance with natural water-retaining qualities that help keep a meatloaf moist and unctuous. Gelatin is formed when collagen, the protein in a cow's connective tissue, breaks down during cooking. Collagen is naturally present in cows of all ages, but the collagen in calves (the source of veal) is more loosely structured - and therefore converts to gelatin more easily - than the collagen in an adult cow. In our all-beef meatloaf, we successfully replicated the gelatinous qualities of veal by adding powdered gelatin.

So, how does it work? Gelatin is a pure protein that suspends water in a mesh-like, semisolid matrix. By slowing down the movement of liquids, gelatin has a stabilizing effect, making it harder for water and other liquids to be forced out, essentially fencing them in. In meatloaf, then, gelatin helps by (1) decreasing the amount of liquid leaking from the meat as the other proteins coagulate and (2) improving the textural feel by making the liquids more viscous even when very hot - sort of a transitional state between liquid and solid. That viscosity translates to a luxurious texture in the mouth - much like reduced stock or demi-glace - and the perception of greater richness, as if we added more fat.

Bottom line: Without gelatin moisture leaks out of meatloaf giving it a coarser, grainier texture and it falls apart. With gelatin moisture is suspended in a semi-solid matrix, keeping the meatloaf juicy.

And that's your food science lesson for the day! 🙃😊

As I said, most people will run from this recipe. @Blessed, I know how much you love to cook. If you decide to try this recipe, let me know how you liked it.

Bella ✌️
 
Ground beef
milk soaked stale Italian bread, squeezed
/OR Italian breadcrumbs
salt and pepper
egg
small amount minced onion
diced bell pepper
Worcestershire sauce
ketchup
mustard

I shape it into a flattish loaf and bake in a wider pan, not a loaf pan. It gets more browned and not so much steamed as in a loaf pan.
Bread isn't steamed when baked in a loaf pan. Neither is meat. The loaf pan is used to keep all the juices in so they don't run out. The juices will contribute much more flavor than any additional browning. This is one of the reasons for the popularity of sous vide cooking where an item is vacuum sealed in a bag and cooked in a water bath.
 
Seems like one of those recipes where simple would be the best. I would look for a very basic recipe from a standard cookbook. Try using more fresh ground black pepper. That's an underused but fantastic flavor.
I love black pepper so there is plenty added to most things I cook for me. I do cut back on it if I am cooking for others.
 
Seems like one of those recipes where simple would be the best. I would look for a very basic recipe from a standard cookbook. Try using more fresh ground black pepper. That's an underused but fantastic flavor.
I add black pepper to almost everything. Particularly since I learned it is a must for absorbing turmeric and have since read that it helps in absorbing other nutrients. Thanks all for the meatloaf ideas.
 
Most people will run from this recipe. It's not for the faint of heart because it's labor intensive. It's also the best meatloaf recipe I've tried. I've been making it since 2006 when I saw it in Cook's Illustrated magazine.

Glazed Meatloaf

Meat Loaf:

  • 3 ounces Monterey Jack cheese, grated on small holes of a box grater (about 1 cup)
  • 1 Tablespoon unsalted butter
  • I medium onion, chopped fine (about 1 cup)
  • 1 medium celery rib, chopped fine, (about 1/2 cup)
  • 1 medium garlic clove, minced or pressed through garlic press (about 1 teaspoon)
  • 2 teaspoons minced fresh thyme leaves
  • 1 teaspoon paprika
  • 1/4 cup tomato juice
  • 1/2 cup low-sodium chicken broth
  • 2 large eggs
  • 1/2 teaspoon unflavored powdered gelatin (see note)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce
  • 1 teaspoon Dijon mustard
  • 2/3 cup crushed saltine crackers
  • 2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley leaves
  • 3/4 tsp table salt
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
  • 1 pound ground sirloin (I use a combination of 1 lb ground beef and 1 lb ground pork)
  • 1 pound ground chuck ( ^ )

Glaze:
  • 1/2 cup ketchup
  • 1 teaspoon hot pepper sauce
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground coriander
  • 1/4 cup apple cider vinegar
  • 3 tablespoons packed light brown sugar

1 - Adjust oven rack to middle position: heat oven to 375 degrees. Spread grated cheese on a plate and place in the freezer until ready to use. Prepare a baking sheet. See note below.

Note from Cook's Illustrated: Allowing meatloaf to stew in its own juice makes for a greasy mess. Here's our solution: Cover an metal cooling rack (I use a 9"x13" rack) with heavy duty aluminum foil and place over a rimmed baking sheet. Poke holes in the foil with a skewer about half an inch apart. Spray with non- stick cooking spray or coat with a thin film of oil. There is no loaf pan. You're going to free form the meatloaf into a 10"x6" loaf on top of this rack.

2 - Heat butter in a 10-inch skillet over medium-high heat until foaming; add onion and celery and cook, stirring occasionally. until beginning to brown, 6 to 8 minutes. Add garlic, thyme, and paprika and cook, stirring, until fragrant, about one minute. Reduce heat to low and add tomato juice. Cook, stirring to scrape up browned bits from the pan, until thickened, about one minute. Transfer mixture to a bowl and set aside to cool.

3 - Whisk broth and eggs in a large bowl until combined. Sprinkle gelatin over liquid and let it stand for five minutes. Stir soy sauce, mustard, saltines, parsley, salt, pepper, and onion mixture. Add ground beef; mix gently with hands until thoroughly combined, about one minute. Transfer meat to the foil lined rack and shape into a 10 by 6-inch oval about 2 inches high. Smooth top and edges of meatloaf with a moistened spatula. Bake until an instant-read thermometer inserted into the center of the loaf reads 135 to 140 degrees, about 55 to 65 minutes. (My note: I would check it sooner. I'm use farm raised meat so my meatloaf is done in 40 minutes.)

4 - While the meatloaf cooks, combine ingredients for glaze in a small saucepan, bring to a simmer over medium heat and cook, stirring, until thick and syrupy, about five minutes. (My note: I find it takes longer to thicken up. Your mileage may vary.) Spread half the glaze over the cooked meatloaf with a rubber/silicone spatula and place under the broiler and cook until the glaze bubbles and begins to brown at the edges, about five minute. Remove meatloaf from the oven and spread evenly with remaining glaze; place back under the broiler and cook until glaze is again bubbling and beginning to brown, about five minutes. Let the meatloaf rest for twenty minutes before slicing.

Here's a little understanding of food science for you. It's helpful to know.

Cook's Illustrated Notes:

How Gelatin Mimics Veal


Many meatloaf recipes call for three different meats (beef, pork, veal), and each one has a core function. Beef contributes assertive beefiness, while pork adds a dimension of flavor and extra fattiness. With veal, it's mostly about the gelatin - a viscous substance with natural water-retaining qualities that help keep a meatloaf moist and unctuous. Gelatin is formed when collagen, the protein in a cow's connective tissue, breaks down during cooking. Collagen is naturally present in cows of all ages, but the collagen in calves (the source of veal) is more loosely structured - and therefore converts to gelatin more easily - than the collagen in an adult cow. In our all-beef meatloaf, we successfully replicated the gelatinous qualities of veal by adding powdered gelatin.

So, how does it work? Gelatin is a pure protein that suspends water in a mesh-like, semisolid matrix. By slowing down the movement of liquids, gelatin has a stabilizing effect, making it harder for water and other liquids to be forced out, essentially fencing them in. In meatloaf, then, gelatin helps by (1) decreasing the amount of liquid leaking from the meat as the other proteins coagulate and (2) improving the textural feel by making the liquids more viscous even when very hot - sort of a transitional state between liquid and solid. That viscosity translates to a luxurious texture in the mouth - much like reduced stock or demi-glace - and the perception of greater richness, as if we added more fat.

Bottom line: Without gelatin moisture leaks out of meatloaf giving it a coarser, grainier texture and it falls apart. With gelatin moisture is suspended in a semi-solid matrix, keeping the meatloaf juicy.

And that's your food science lesson for the day! 🙃😊

As I said, most people will run from this recipe. @Blessed, I know how much you love to cook. If you decide to try this recipe, let me know how you liked it.

Bella ✌️
I've got to try this. I think I did read about the gelatin thing some time ago, but forgot all about it. Thanks, Bella.

PS, I won't be using the cheese.
 
There are recipes for meat loaf? Huh? I always use the by-guess-and-by-golly method and never use super lean ground beef because it'll be dry. When it's out of the oven, let it stand for about 10 minutes before slicing.

Recipe. For meatloaf. Who knew?
That is my theory, I just put stuff in there that sounds good. They are tolerable but I want one to be a WOW.
 
Me either. I gave up on making meatloaf. Mine are always too greasy.
Meatloaves ARE greasy. It’s actually kind of gross but that’s what the bread and , or crackers are for. They are meant to soak up the fat. If yours are greasy, then you made it right.🤢 It’s something my husband liked.
Me, not as much. It’s far too greasy for my liking.
 
In an earlier post I mentioned my meatloaf was always greasy and I always made it in a loaf pan. I figured the loaf pan kept all the grease from the ground beef in the bottom of the pan so I tried putting the meatloaf on a rack inside a pan and it was too dry and just crumbled. 😖


I have since brainwashed myself that I really don't like meatloaf, so I don't have to try to make it anymore. Problem solved! 👍
 
No recipe for me when making meat loaf. I just throw it together, using 85% ground beef, and making sure there is enough broken up bread (pieces) so the meatloaf doesn't look and taste like a hunk of hamburg. I usually put green peppers, onions, sometime even mushrooms, always at least one egg, garlic powder, italian seasoning,and worcestershire sauce, some ketchup, then parsley flakes, marinara sauce drizzled on top. Scrumptious! My kids love it to this day!
 
I think the problem I have experienced is related to the meat I use. Normally I just use ground beef. I think if I add some ground pork that could help with flavor. I already use plenty of garlic, onions, spices and herbs. I will look for ground pork next time I am at the grocery. My meat loaf is okay, I want it to be fantastic. Thanks for all the advice. I am a pretty good cook but I have not been able to produce a WOW meatloaf. I think home cooked food is better that going out for the most part. I like dishes that make enough for leftovers to go in the freezer. Some days I just don't have the energy to cook and it nice to have something in the freezer I can just pull out, thaw and heat.
 
My meatloaf's are decent, but what makes them even better is each
time I add mushroom soup to the entire mix before baking, makes
it just right for me :)
 
In an earlier post I mentioned my meatloaf was always greasy and I always made it in a loaf pan. I figured the loaf pan kept all the grease from the ground beef in the bottom of the pan so I tried putting the meatloaf on a rack inside a pan and it was too dry and just crumbled. 😖


I have since brainwashed myself that I really don't like meatloaf, so I don't have to try to make it anymore. Problem solved! 👍
I cook mine in a loaf pan also but I take it out of the oven after 30 minutes. I pour off the grease into a bowl for disposal, put it back in the oven to finish cooking. Mine are not greasy or dry but seem to missing the flavor I want. I can only relate this back to the meat, maybe if I use a some ground pork and veal that might solve the problem.
 
My meatloaf's are decent, but what makes them even better is each
time I add mushroom soup to the entire mix before baking, makes
it just right for me :)That is one I have not tried. I have added fresh sliced mushrooms to the other sauteed veggies. I have used the dry onion soup mix but still did not show to bump the flavor. I do use lots of cream of mushroom and cream of chicken in many recipes. They can boost the flavors and make a gravy for serving. This sounds like a good addition for flavor and a moist tender meatloaf. Thanks!!
 
OK. My friend responded.

My meatloaf; I put hamburger, sausage (Italian or Jimmy Dean). Celery, yellow sweet onion, green bell peppers, garlic powder, pkg of meat loaf seasoning, 2-3 eggs, a little bit of milk maybe 1/2 cup and oatmeal to a firm consistency .
 
I make meatloaf as most above although I use dark ground turkey(7% fat) because of my wife's preference for "no meat w four feet." I strive to make it not taste like Italian meatballs by using plain bread crumbs and avoid Italian seasonings, but it's pretty much the same. One caution is don't over mix the ingredients. And of course don't over cook.

Other minor differences are using red bell pepper, and making it free form on a sheet pan lined w parchment paper. Most of the time I'll make a mushroom gravy w turkey stock and that pretty much covers up any issues.
 
After reading all these ideas and recipes I realized I’ve tried a variation of most of these. My conclusion, I don’t really like meatloaf.

The one hint I haven’t tried is Bella’s note about gelatin. About a month ago I tossed almost a full box of those individual packets. I couldn’t think of any use for them.
 
After reading all these ideas and recipes I realized I’ve tried a variation of most of these. My conclusion, I don’t really like meatloaf.

The one hint I haven’t tried is Bella’s note about gelatin. About a month ago I tossed almost a full box of those individual packets. I couldn’t think of any use for them.
We used to mix the gelatin with water and drink it, believing it would make our nails grow faster! LOL.
 


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