Extreme Anxiety

I once worked in psychiatric settings in UK/HK and OZ - you describe a system that is replicated elsewhere and is one where sometimes persons who are meant to help don't understand themselves; and then a complete treatment and sometimes incarceration system swings into action. PTSD diagnosis and treatment is making extremely big bucks these days well at least in Oz and for all the wrong reasons. Take a read of this?

PTSD - big bucks treatments down under!

As I read your tale I felt much compassion but for all the wrong reasons you probably got a very good deal?
 

davey said:
I once worked in psychiatric settings in UK/HK and OZ - you describe a system that is replicated elsewhere and is one where sometimes persons who are meant to help don't understand themselves; and then a complete treatment and sometimes incarceration system swings into action. PTSD diagnosis and treatment is making extremely big bucks these days well at least in Oz and for all the wrong reasons. Take a read of this?

PTSD - big bucks treatments down under!

As I read your tale I felt much compassion but for all the wrong reasons you probably got a very good deal?
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I donā€™t have a yahoo account so cannot see it.
 
Hi Maisie: I am 79, introvert, diabetic for 60 years, 3 adult children, 5 grands and live with my dog in the same house for 40+ years.
I am prone to depression - dayly exercise in fresh air helps. Flash (dog) and I walk 3 miles/day (sun, rain, snow) - the "short" interaction with other walkers and neighbours boost my mood.
 
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davey said:
try this one:

ADHD this is not a yahoo site its abc's own site|?
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Davey, in #61 she said:"Was hospitalized for extreme
anxiety and complex PTSD over the last week. When I discovered they wanted to keep me in hospital, I fled. The police were called who then contacted all the taxis in the area as well as the motels and hotels. I later learn , that I was a wanted women....."

She was not diagnosed with ADHD.
 
MissRJ said:
Davey said this link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/adhd
Link To https://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/adhd
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MissRJ said:
Davey, in #61 she said:"Was hospitalized for extreme
anxiety and complex PTSD over the last week. When I discovered they wanted to keep me in hospital, I fled. The police were called who then contacted all the taxis in the area as well as the motels and hotels. I later learn , that I was a wanted women....."

She was not diagnosed with ADHD.
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No I wasnā€™t diagnosed with ADHD and those links are for ADHD. Iā€™m not qualified to say for certain but I would think that many mental disorders have ANXIETY as a characteristic trait.

Hereā€™s a link to post traumatic stress disorder
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/management-of-posttraumatic-stress-disorder-in-adults#!
 
The worst thing about the life of we intelligent Earth creatures is that we are mortal. For those that greatly value their lives and are capable of enjoying life, the end of existence forever is the SADDEST thing imaginal. I do want to exist forever. So worrying about death is real. Taking whatever pills or drinking whiskey won't change that.

Well unless a race of Ultimate Intelligent Entities has a way to save our electromagnetic brain wave fields in a non-organic container that duplicates the impedance effects of our nervous systems. Something a race of ancient AI entities with billions of years old science would arguably have at least tried to develop if such is possible.

Oh, many old people don't mind dying if they are frail, in daily pain, have lost their once youthful fitness, have DNA aging deterioration, look old wrinkled, have mental deterioration, and are generally ignored by others and society as is the case with old people. But almost none of those same people would choose to die if they still had a youthful fit body, strong mind, and enjoyable reasons to continue living. So most of those old people minus the religious, that claim they are not afraid of dying are actually stating they don't care given the reduced physical state they are in.

In the case of religious people that are convinced they are going to Heaven, that is another discussion. My mother and sister that passed away within the last decade were such.
 
In the '60's- 90's anxiety was traditionally treated with what was euphamistically called 'anti-anxiety' drugs - later it was realized that these same drugs whilst calming people were habit forming and people were becoming addicted to them. They were also sometimes used for alcoholism to reduce the anxiety of not being able to 'have a drink' - but it would seem that these drugs were simple 'masking life' giving one a sense of calmness whilst becoming addictive also. The root cause of many anxieties were never discovered or explored thus coming off the drugs the anxiety syndrome re-appeared. This is the case with many psychiatric ailments including the opposite to neurotic conditions and that is psychotic. Remove the drug and the old self re-appears so has anything been cured??
 
David777 said:
The worst thing about the life of we intelligent Earth creatures is that we are mortal. For those that greatly value their lives and are capable of enjoying life, the end of existence forever is the SADDEST thing imaginal. I do want to exist forever. So worrying about death is real. Taking whatever pills or drinking whiskey won't change that.

Well unless a race of Ultimate Intelligent Entities has a way to save our electromagnetic brain wave fields in a non-organic container that duplicates the impedance effects of our nervous systems. Something a race of ancient AI entities with billions of years old science would arguably have at least tried to develop if such is possible.

Oh, many old people don't mind dying if they are frail, in daily pain, have lost their once youthful fitness, have DNA aging deterioration, look old wrinkled, have mental deterioration, and are generally ignored by others and society as is the case with old people. But almost none of those same people would choose to die if they still had a youthful fit body, strong mind, and enjoyable reasons to continue living. So most of those old people minus the religious, that claim they are not afraid of dying are actually stating they don't care given the reduced physical state they are in.

In the case of religious people that are convinced they are going to Heaven, that is another discussion. My mother and sister that passed away within the last decade were such.
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Yes, there are a lot of people just waiting to die. I'm not one of them and hope I don't get to that point.
 
MissRJ said:
I realize that you were just doing your job.
On the otherhand, I have a question:
Could you have found out that person's family contact person and then proceeded to call up that person and discuss the event?

In my opinion, our entire mental healthcare sytem, treatment of people/patients and the laws should be rethought about,reviewed and reevaluated.
My opinion is based upon what I have heard and what I have learned or know.
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Thatā€™s not our policy. We turn those types of cases over to the D.A. and they investigate the background by questioning the family. They figure Troopers are not qualified to assess these types of situations. If the subject is already mentally ill, he may be on the state database and if he is, he will be taken directly to the hospitalā€™s mental ward until they make a disposition of the personā€™s background and how to precede.
 
UK once had a very good community service that had qualified staff known as community mental health officers who could be called to attend an uncontrollable person in the community either with an existing condition or newly reported one and would always attend with a police officer as back up in the case of violent behaviors or arms. the mental health officer had the authority to remove said disturbed person to the nearest mental health hospital with the aid of the police officer. Seemed to be a very effective service??
 
BC Flash said:
Hi Maisie: I am 79, introvert, diabetic for 60 years, 3 adult children, 5 grands and live with my dog in the same house for 40+ years.
I am prone to depression - dayly exercise in fresh air helps. Flash (dog) and I walk 3 miles/day (sun, rain, snow) - the "short" interaction with other walkers and neighbours boost my mood.
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I agree. Walking is good. I took a short one to the fake lakes in my area. Was disappointed the little stream between the lakes were dry and I didn't see any ducks, but the fresh air helps.
 
Maisie123 said:
Hello I have just reached 80 years old and have extreme anxiety with the feeling that I am going to die soon. This feeling dominates everyday and I am unable to enjoy the life I had. My doctor has now put me on an anti-depressant but so far still feel the same. I do not want to feel like this. I want to enjoy life. I know it is all irrational but I cannot convince myself of that. Any thoughts or help would be much appreciated.
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Me too. I am frightened about so many things especially pain. I always imagine the worst.
I find prayer calms me, as does reading pleasant books, keeping to my familiar routines and such. Simple ways to keep myself calm.
But you are not alone, it's not irrational when you consider how much we have all had to live through in these recent times.
By the way, I do not fear death, only the pain and suffering that might come before it.
 
I'm 73, and have been battling depression, anxiety, etc. all my life. Over the years I've had good luck just letting go of all the painful thoughts and memories. It's helped a lot.

Over last year I also let go of the boiling reservoir of adrenalin I was carrying around. I used to get so overly excited over everything. One day I just told myself not to get worked up. It was that easy. I still struggle with a few things, but I get some relief because I am actually actively socializing with my neighbors for the first time in my life.
 
ronk said:
I'm 73, and have been battling depression, anxiety, etc. all my life. Over the years I've had good luck just letting go of all the painful thoughts and memories. It's helped a lot.

Over last year I also let go of the boiling reservoir of adrenalin I was carrying around. I used to get so overly excited over everything. One day I just told myself not to get worked up. It was that easy. I still struggle with a few things, but I get some relief because I am actually actively socializing with my neighbors for the first time in my life.
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@ronk - you've done remarkably by the sound of things - they have always been hard things to shift and some never do. I used to work in this field and it was sometimes too easy to hand out pills to reduce the severities of the conditions but which could become addictive. You seem to have managed somehow to change all those chemicals at play and calmed them down?? well done - you could be a good role model in my local outpt psych unit!!
 
davey. thanks for your support and understanding. I stopped taking the anti-anxiety meds over a year ago. I lose count.

I've decided to be honest with my friends and our staff. I just tell them I battle depression and anxiety attacks. I don't overwhelm them with the details. I am shy, but able to be "the clown" with everyone. I tell them how much I appreciate them... It all works out.
 
ronk said:
davey. thanks for your support and understanding. I stopped taking the anti-anxiety meds over a year ago. I lose count.

I've decided to be honest with my friends and our staff. I just tell them I battle depression and anxiety attacks. I don't overwhelm them with the details. I am shy, but able to be "the clown" with everyone. I tell them how much I appreciate them... It all works out.
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Glad to hear this, @ronk.
 
almost sounds like a good title for a pop son "radishrose&perpermintPatty" - should I scribe it now or later?
 

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