Horrific train derailment in India. At least 207 dead

jujube said:
I've seen trains in India. It's no surprise that that many are killed in an accident. There could be that many on top or clinging to the sides of a car.
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That's correct of course.. and it's not an easy thing to say, but 207 dead, would be like one ant in a Colony being killed.. it's a tragedy any loss of lfe, but aside from their families 207 people will not make any dent in the population even of a village.. ..may they R.I.P
 

And does the rest of the world really care one way or the other? =- no callous intended just a plain question? - same about Afghanistan or Syria etc etc and loss of life doesn't need to be a tragedy could be a blessing for many?
 
Oh wow.. poor people...

At least 288 people have died with some 900 people hospitalised in a three-train collision in India last night - the country's deadliest rail accident in more than 20 years.

Rescuers continued to wade through piles of debris and wreckage to pull out bodies and free survivors on Saturday after two passenger trains derailed in India, hitting a stationary freight train on an adjacent track. The harrowing scenes saw the rail cars tossed far from the tracks and others flipped over entirely in one of the country's deadliest train crashes in decades.

The accident, which happened about 137 miles (220km) southwest of Kolkata on Friday night, led to a chaotic scene as rescuers climbed atop the wrecked trains to break open doors and windows using cutting torches to free survivors.

Smashed train compartments had been torn open in the impact, leaving blood-stained holes in their sides.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rs-India-train-disaster-kills-nearly-300.html
 
The number of passengers on a train has nothing whatsoever to do with the operation of the train, and the railway signal system, which is probably the reason for the collision of the two trains. Given the over all poor safety record of Indian railways, that would be my conclusion. JimB.
 
hollydolly said:
That's correct of course.. and it's not an easy thing to say, but 207 dead, would be like one ant in a Colony being killed.. it's a tragedy any loss of lfe, but aside from their families 207 people will not make any dent in the population even of a village.. ..may they R.I.P
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Yeah, no tragedy in recorded history has really been great enough to slow population growth, not much anyway. I agree... RIP
 
I remember talking with a man from India, that worked at the same Oil Service Company ... and this was 30 yrs. ago

We discussed the overpopulation of India, and how when tragedy strikes there, thousands can be wiped out instantly.
He told me it's not much of a news day event, even over there, unless thousands die ...:eek:

I'll never forget him saying that!
 
Planes coming at each other at 500 miles and hour can change course to avoid collision. Trains going at high speed on a collision course cannot avoid collision, unless there is an available switch and someone has time to open or close it. Train tracks are a perfect guidance system leading to a parked or oncoming train. Plane travel is still the safest way to travel, I think. Although, I still prefer the comfort of a train.
 
The Indian Minister of Railways has released a statement that three trains were involved, two passenger trains, and a freight train. The 2 passenger trains hit each other head on, and the derailed passenger cars struck the standing freight train, which was on a parallel track. The Minister stated that the signals system had mal-functioned, allowing the 2 passenger trains to run towards each other, on the SAME track. He promises that the persons responsible will be found and prosecuted. Video of the crash scene shows hundreds of men standing around, doing nothing but point at each other, with no actual work going on. Survivors tell of thieves stealing from the dead passengers, and taking suitcases and personal property from the wrecked passenger cars. JimB.
 
That's odd that police were not on the scene stopping looters. Not that it makes any difference to the dead, but good grief, have a little respect.
 
JustDave said:
That's odd that police were not on the scene stopping looters. Not that it makes any difference to the dead, but good grief, have a little respect.
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You have to understand the Indian way of doing things. ANY type of accident will draw hundreds of people who will stand and watch, with no thought of actually helping . It's not North America, for sure. Indian Police are poorly paid and their training is minimal at best. Many of them are corrupt and quite willing to take bribes, to let people get away with crimes. Some of the senior officers are well educated, and some attend foreign Police training courses in the UK, or here in Canada. Their problem is that their street level Police officers are poorly paid and poorly trained. JimB.
 
This is 1 country I have never visited. I have flown over it, but never been in the country and I often wished I would have. They are really decent folks, except for the pickpockets. Yeah, Iā€™ve heard the stories. I donā€™t know which is worse. South America or India.

This reminds me. When you travel out of the country, make doubly sure you never misplace or lose your passport. What a mess you will be put through. My suggestion is to make a copy and keep it locked up in the hotel safe or somewhere you know it will be when you go for it.
 
Been There said:
This is 1 country I have never visited. I have flown over it, but never been in the country and I often wished I would have. They are really decent folks, except for the pickpockets. Yeah, Iā€™ve heard the stories. I donā€™t know which is worse. South America or India.

This reminds me. When you travel out of the country, make doubly sure you never misplace or lose your passport. What a mess you will be put through. My suggestion is to make a copy and keep it locked up in the hotel safe or somewhere you know it will be when you go for it.
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My Canadian passport is never out of my hands, except when actually going through Immigration check at an International airport. I have a waterproof waist belt that I wear under my clothes that contains the passport and my currency. I have a small "give it up " amount of local currency " that I can hand over if I am being robbed. JimB.
 
jimintoronto said:
My Canadian passport is never out of my hands, except when actually going through Immigration check at an International airport. I have a waterproof waist belt that I wear under my clothes that contains the passport and my currency. I have a small "give it up " amount of local currency " that I can hand over if I am being robbed. JimB.
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I put my original passport in the hotelā€™s safe, not the roomā€™s safe, if Iā€™m staying several days. I never trusted the roomā€™s safe. I carry what I call pocket change. Never more than $50 and my AMEX card. If that gets stolen, so what. Itā€™s 100% protected for every dollar.
 
jimintoronto said:
My Canadian passport is never out of my hands, except when actually going through Immigration check at an International airport. I have a waterproof waist belt that I wear under my clothes that contains the passport and my currency. I have a small "give it up " amount of local currency " that I can hand over if I am being robbed. JimB.
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One of my old RCMP buddies was a CBSA visa officer at our Embassy in India for three years, after he retired from "The Cowboys ". His job was to investigate questionable Visa applications from Indian nationals. His experience was that some 70 percent of the applications to come to Canada as immigrants were found to be fraudulent, in some way . Rejections were based on fraudulent educational records, fraudulent employment histories, and mis-representations of marriages, and relationships of the applicants. Bribery and false educational papers are a way of life in India. Jimb.
 

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