Military has indeed probably been hiding alien info

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The subject just became immensely more interesting with quiet release of news today after a person with highest credentials familliar with what the US government has been apparently secretly been doing behind our backs for decades with endless lies, has now come forward. This is not just another UFO enthusiast trying to make news to sell magazines. Apparently after Congress asked for this information, he became frustrated that elite military groups were still hiding information. Since Congress also made law a person cannot be criminally charged for divulging UFO information, he has now come forward. He was not a person actually working with crash recovered remains.

As I have often noted with billions of stars in the Milky Way, in a universe with billions of galaxies, it would be a stretch to expect life on Earth is unique, that other intelligent life has never reached our intelligence levels, and with science and technology eventually created AI. Once that is possible and occurs as we humans have now accomplished, one can speculate we are not alone and others have inevitably been visiting us that I term a race of likely non-organic Ultimate Intelligent Entities. Thus not little green men haha.

And will also speculate that is also in part the basis of the Christian god and where Jesus came from. But without the many organized religion narratives that are IMO mostly just fabrications. They likely impregnated Mary with DNA from Adam's line in Genesis they had been working on as improvements. That could be why Adams descendants lived for hundreds of years. Note I am not a UFO enthusiast but given my science and astronomy background have always thought we are not alone. Also there is considerable evidence that Earth appears to be engineered for organic DNA life and that our current universe has been fine tuned for life. Will be interesting how this plays out in coming months.

U.S. Recovered 'Intact And Partially Intact Vehicles' Of Non-Human Origin: Whistleblower

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/u-recovered-intact-partially-intact-190000314.html
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David Charles Grusch isn’t just some guy waving signs on a street corner in D.C.; he’s a decorated war veteran who worked with both the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office, where he worked as on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force with top clearance levels...
Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said...
In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG). “We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”...
In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April, Grusch asserted that UFO “legacy programs” have long been concealed within “multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.” He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”...
“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
 

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If the American government is hiding all this "knowledge" and all these "secrets", I wonder what knowledge and secrets the Russian government or the Chinese government or even the Brazilian government is hiding. If those aliens are coming to earth, why is it always that they land in the "Good Ole' USA? Logically speaking, they can also be "visiting" or countries on this planet but then maybe "Hollywood" couldn't work this fact into one of their "blockbusters."
 

Yes! I was just watching that!
US Intelligence FINALLY confirms we have spacecraft from another species.
They have a UFO (UAL) retrieval program.
The sightings are now so continuous they can no longer deny the probability.

Why did they not come forward with this years ago? Instead, Every one who sighted a UFO
had to give an oath they could not ever mention this! Why couldn't they tell the people?
Do they think we're not capable of understanding?
The possibility of aliens on Earth now, they say is 100%!
 
I have been to air bases where they are locked and guarded 24/7. You don’t even want to walk near the hangars. I asked a Sgt. standing guard once what was inside. He said “Wouldn’t you like to know?” I told him I didn’t know if I did or not unless you tell me what’s inside. He shrugged his shoulders and kept walking. I don’t think he even knew.
 
Hi Carol. Check out News Nation on U-tube. The US Intelligence calls this "credible and urgent".
The spacecraft they have in possession, they describe as "Non-human origin". 'from another species".
and the recent sightings have been pretty phenomenal too.
You may want to check it out and of course, form your own opinion.
 
It has already started just minutes ago. Yes get Congress involved once again then bring these secret military/political people in responsible for hiding this if true, so the public can roundly beat some of them up regardless of whatever lame excuses.

https://comicbook.com/irl/news/ufo-retrieval-program-congressional-hearings-announced/

Christopher Mellon, another former member of the intelligence community, echoed the reported saying he'd heard similar stories of deeply covert operations tasked with bringing alien spacecraft in.

"A number of well-placed current and former officials have shared detailed information with me regarding this alleged program, including insights into the history, governing documents and the location where a craft was allegedly abandoned and recovered," Mellon told the website. "However, it is a delicate matter getting this potentially explosive information into the right hands for validation. This is made harder by the fact that, rightly or wrongly, a number of potential sources do not trust the leadership of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office established by Congress."

Earlier this spring, All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) boss Sean Kirkpatrick testified before a Congressional subcommittee about the outfit's ongoing investigations into UFOs.
 
@David777 No reason they can't be little and green and also highly intelligent.

Remember back in 2013 when Lt Fravor, commander of the F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz, talked about the leaked 2004 video of the "tic-tac" UFOs? I thought then that those were possibly products of the US military.
 
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@David777 No reason they can't be little and green and also highly intelligent.

Remember back in 2013 when Lt Fravor, commander of the F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz, talked about the leaked 2004 video of the "tic-tac" UFOs? I thought then that those were possibly products of the US military.
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I'm sure a lot of people thought so....Putin, Xi Jinping, um...Lawrence of Arabia. 🤪
 
Bah humbug! I'm sure extraterrestrials have visited Earth. I think they have already integrated into human DNA, and walk the mean streets of every city.
I don't think we''l ever get the straight story from the government, ever. But, it doesn't matter to me anymore.
 
Sigh. Whatever "they" say. There's a guy out there illustrating how we already mastered extraterrestrial "gravity" tech to the point where we could all enjoy free energy and flying cars, but for those bas**ds the corporations, who don't want to lose control of everything. This is why "it" is being kept a secret from the public. Oh well (shrug) what a shame.
 
Actually I have another idea that any advanced UIEs might require an earth-like organic likely per panspermia DNA based life, inner flesh organic brain core that is otherwise non-organic and extremely powerful, needed to what we Earth creatures experience as consciousness. That possibly involves UIE's in ways I won't note herein.

Consciousness I'll tersely speculate herein, depends on how the substrate neuronal tissue impedance physically 3D shapes via neural plasticity the effective electromagnetic/all energy fields that results in what we experience as perception... aware life. Thus at that level, not about narratives of memory due to connections or complex interstructure but rather the nerve substrate as a lifelong building structure of 3-dimension form with impedances changes evolution has selected depositing patterns of structure at micro levels of the nerve surfaces with persistance chemical qualities as yet not understood by accumulating continuous layer processes. Possibly the accumulation of microtubules that then form a layer that has electromagnetic persistence able to duplicate actual experiential experiences later as memory. In other words, creature brains that try to internally simulate within neuronal tissue their external worlds at a sensual level so their executive control pilot can via its motor control affect their world. And I'll speculate detect such layers as a relative passage of time from all their whole body perceptions that holistically leave a chemical layer trail of experience that affects the 3D electromagnetic field shapes as perceptions.

The brains of Earth animal creatures small to large intelligent entities, ants to men, all have endlessly oscillating brain wave fields as programmed by evolved chemical cellular machines. In essence, we Earth lifeforms, worms to ants, to fish to humans are not our fleshly bodies but rather the oscillating electromagnetic/all energy fields within the nervous system impedance containers.

Plants do NOT have oscillating voltage and oscillating ionic electrolyte flows so communicate only chemically plus temperature. Slime molds do. But plant cellular lipid layer walls very much are also voltage controlled machines just like with all we vertebrates that selectively lets extracellular fluid elements from outside cell walls especially ions selectively in and gets rid of what needs to and garbage. Bilipid layers have many mechanisms for filtering out materials moving through cell walls of all Earth life. Many are size based while others require an acceptable ionic charge lest one not pass through and much ion pumping to create the negative 110 millivolt potential across bilipid layers life is ultimately based on having solved to become Earth life. Then there are likely all manner of sticky grabby blocking 3-D scheme deeper evolved molecular shape of inner lipid channel walls that also affect substances as they attempt to pass through the membrane due to voltage gradients and electrolyte fluid dispersion.
 
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My guess is that China is just surveilling targets in the US in preparation for a surprise attack on us using germ warfare, satellite borne lasers (SBL's) and the most devastating hydrogen bombs. All our satellites could be downed in the first hour of the war. They may even have long term agents inside the US for many generations. Their agents may even be inside our military having joined many decades ago. COVID may have just be a test of their germ warfare. The COVID weapons could be the most destructive of all.
 
In this universe, nothing complex including ultimate AIs will ever be capable of escaping destruction or perform gravitational escape closer than from an outer photosphere of any massively hot thermonuclear star (much less a neutron star, even less into a black hole) unless they do so before atoms change from lower temperature solid technical structures into gaseous atomic vapor. Thus all life and single copies of intelligent entities can be destroyed. Thus logically, nothing is guarantied infinite existence. But an AI UIE my have alternate backup copies.
 
David777 said:
Actually I have another idea that any advanced UIEs might require an earth-like organic likely per panspermia DNA based life, inner flesh organic brain core that is otherwise non-organic and extremely powerful, needed to what we Earth creatures experience as consciousness. That possibly involves UIE's in ways I won't note herein.

Consciousness I'll tersely speculate herein, depends on how the substrate neuronal tissue impedance physically 3D shapes via neural plasticity the effective electromagnetic/all energy fields that results in what we experience as perception... aware life. Thus at that level, not about narratives of memory due to connections or complex interstructure but rather the nerve substrate as a lifelong building structure of 3-dimension form with impedances changes evolution has selected depositing patterns of structure at micro levels of the nerve surfaces with persistance chemical qualities as yet not understood by accumulating continuous layer processes. Possibly the accumulation of microtubules that then form a layer that has electromagnetic persistence. In other words, creature brains can detect such layers as the passage of time from all their whole body perceptions. The brains of Earth animal creatures all have endlessly oscillating brain wave fields as programmed by evolved chemical cellular machines.

Plants do NOT have oscillating voltage and oscillating ionic electrolyte flows so communicate only chemically plus temperature. Slime molds do. But plant cellular lipid layer walls very much are also voltage controlled machines just like with all we vertebrates that selectively lets extracellular fluid elements from outside cell walls especially ions selectively in and gets rid of what needs to and garbage. Bilipid layers have many mechanisms for filtering out materials moving through cell walls of all Earth life. Many are size based while others require an acceptable ionic charge lest one not pass through and much ion pumping to create the negative 110 millivolt potential across bilipid layers life is ultimately based on having solved to become Earth life. Then there are likely all manner of sticky grabby blocking 3-D scheme deeper evolved molecular shape versus tissue electrolyte electron field level.
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Well put but way over my head.
o_O
 
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I have often wondered if our minds and bodies are not the result of a higher intelligence attempts at creating a life form out of the building materials that have available or created to them. The materials we call DNA, cells and electrical impulses as we are beginning to build AI with the materials available to us such as plastics, printed circuits, wires, hydraulics and lets not forget electrical impulses. As far as the original post. It would not surprise me in the least. Thanks for posting David777.
 
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That show on the History Channel , Ancient Aliens, makes talk of UFO's, laughable. It's been on for years. It's like a continuation of the old Chariots of the Gods, book I read when I was much younger. I have never really believed that aliens visited Earth thousands of years ago. But I have always believed that there is life out there.

But here's the thing, no matter how many worlds out there that may have intelligent life, they or may not know what those twinkling lights in the sky are. And even if they do, they may have no desire to venture out into space and meet people of other worlds. They know we are out there, but it doesn't matter much to them, so they will just stay on their own world. I have been a fan of Star Trek, since 1966, and have loved the idea of space travel. But as I have gotten older, I have realized that I don't care so much anymore. I'm more concerned about what is going on our planet, that meeting folks from out there in space.

I also think that we are wasting money going to dead worlds like the moon over and over again. We don't need to go to Mars either. Spend money on us Earthlings instead.
 
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That show on the History Channel , Ancient Aliens, makes talk of UFO's, laughable. It's been on for years. It's like a continuation of the old Chariots of the Gods, book I read when I was much younger. I have never really believed that aliens visited Earth thousands of years ago. But I have always believed that there is life out there.
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I agree, I do think it is likely that intelligent life has evolved elsewhere in the Universe, but that's a long way from believing they made it here.

Distances are just too far, unless someone (or some being) figures out how to travel faster than the speed of light it just can't happen.

Even if it did happen, which I don't believe, it seems more likely any physical "visits" would be by very small spacecraft without life aboard. The green men would stay home.

However a military cover up of any kind is highly plausible. Not always intelligent life there...
 

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