Women in traditionally male professions

I worked for 30 years in a female dominated industry. Housecleaning. Lucky I wore long hair and an earing. šŸ˜† When new customers would call they were always surprised when I answered "I am the housecleaner." after they asked to speak to the "female". Because they expected a female it took a little convincing that I was legit and had many customers, some of which were well known in the community. I like to think that I helped the stereo type housecleaner to a new level. We are not personal attendees (maid), and we deserve a decent pay! It began to happen. I raised my prices and many of the females followed suite. I told the customers what I would do, and that any extras would be 1 hour or less about once a month. If it worked out that way, great. If it didn't I moved on. Respectable profession is what happened here. I stood up, just as women have finally stood up to men. :)
My little brother ran his own housecleaning service in Texas through most of the 80's
 

By the way I am curious about something. Considering how women want equality in all things, why are there certain jobs where you never , or rarely, see women?
Emptying bins, building sites and roofing, lorry driving, car mechanics, down the mines etc.
 
Purely my own thoughts, but you know when women choose to enter into professions where they must work with mainly men, it is going to be tough. Yes it will take courage to be in the police, army, fire service etc.

However, men will be men. Except of course actual breaking the law or abusing women is completely unacceptable and must be punished.

Left to it they will swear, be very coarse about women, and compete with each other. They do and say shocking things that a woman cannot easily tolerate. It may not be right or moral but it's to a great extent how they are. They want to impress and challenge each other and it's just like in nature, biology is there.

So when I read sometimes in the news about women complaining about this male culture that they choose to work within, I do have some impatience. Men are not going to change their ways when a woman joins them on THEIR level? Like a policewoman or firefighter must be able to handle things just like a man, give and take when the jokes start.

There is an important difference in how men perceive any woman among them. I worked once as a secretary in a male dominated industrial company. I however made sure to establish myself from the start as a respectable married woman, a lady, not 'available'. Within a short time I can say all those men treated me with utmost respect. They would apologise if a swearword was said unthinkingly, it became a joy to work there. However - I was NOT 'one of them'. Not working the heavy machinery or in the dirty shop floor. I was separate in the office. They kept their crude male culture away from me and I felt safe.

It IS very hard no doubt for young women in certain professions and she must be safe and never accept actual abuse. My point is that some of the behaviours is just men being men so it's no good complaining if you can't take it.
Interesting subject @Rose65
 
By the way I am curious about something. Considering how women want equality in all things, why are there certain jobs where you never , or rarely, see women?
Emptying bins, building sites and roofing, lorry driving, car mechanics, down the mines etc.
there are many Truck driving women nowadays..loads.. as there is female bus drivers and quite a lot of female mechanics.. I wish we had some round here ...there are women on building sites too.. albeit they tend to be younger...but some of these proffesions need sheer brawn.. emptying wheelie bins is heavy work... for example..
 
By the way I am curious about something. Considering how women want equality in all things, why are there certain jobs where you never , or rarely, see women?
Emptying bins, building sites and roofing, lorry driving, car mechanics, down the mines etc.
We have a lady who has been on our trash route for years, my female cousin in West Virginia worked in a coal mine, my repair garage has a female mechanic, seen many ladies working heavy equipment on road maintenance & building sites.
 
I have always been fascinated about the different experiences ...
i have worked in many a situation where i was only woman etc and literally never had this happen. no one questioning my ability or helping the girl do this or that......
It is not that i doubt others experiences but wonder why no one bothered me ... maybe i missed it and never gave it a second thought.
 
I have always been fascinated about the different experiences ...
i have worked in many a situation where i was only woman etc and literally never had this happen. no one questioning my ability or helping the girl do this or that......
It is not that i doubt others experiences but wonder why no one bothered me ... maybe i missed it and never gave it a second thought.
I would guess that your confidence level had an effect.
 
The Sheriff's Dept. was a male dominated employment setting, but by the mid-eighties women were well represented in most job classiIfications.

Potty mouth? Ha! Some of the biggest potty-mouthers were women employees, not sure what that was all about.
I was in LE for 30 years as was my husband. AND your right, some of the women were the biggest potty-mouthers 😁!

I would rather work with all men than with a majority of women. I didn't have a problem with men, but then I didn't put up with any BS. Some of them when I started were like big brothers & I learned the ropes from them. I would give it back as good as I got it. Over the years, I only recall a few who got stupid & were put in their place by us women. We didn't tolerate stupid.

Basically, if I wanted respect from the men, I worked for it showing them I could do my job. I didn't complain, whine or play the "female-card" like I seen some other females do. That ticked me & the other women off when we seen it.

The women that I enjoyed working with had the same attitude & work ethic that I had. In the end, we were all brothers & sisters in this job.
 
We have a lady who has been on our trash route for years, my female cousin in West Virginia worked in a coal mine, my repair garage has a female mechanic, seen many ladies working heavy equipment on road maintenance & building sites.
I've never seen anything like that here in the UK.
 
The Sheriff's Dept. was a male dominated employment setting, but by the mid-eighties women were well represented in most job classifications.

Potty mouth? Ha! Some of the biggest potty-mouthers were women employees, not sure what that was all about.
I think it is exceptionally tragic when women use bad language too, in some kind of way to fit in with men.
 
there are many Truck driving women nowadays..loads.. as there is female bus drivers and quite a lot of female mechanics.. I wish we had some round here ...there are women on building sites too.. albeit they tend to be younger...but some of these proffesions need sheer brawn.. emptying wheelie bins is heavy work... for example..
Well that's the thing, how many women are able to compete in physical strength and stamina with men? Surely we have much to offer in so many other ways - certainly brainwise no problems. In general.
 
By the way I am curious about something. Considering how women want equality in all things, why are there certain jobs where you never , or rarely, see women?
Emptying bins, building sites and roofing, lorry driving, car mechanics, down the mines etc.
If they are not physically able, they can't.

If they don't want to; their choice- just like a man can sit at a desk all day, too.

Women here use heavy equipment. They are lawyers and surgeons and CEO's, astronauts and scientists; just about anything they can physically do.

Those "traditional" roles are from a past century.
 
Well that's the thing, how many women are able to compete in physical strength and stamina with men?
There doesn't need to be a competition... and women don't have to be as "physically strong" as men to be able to do the same jobs. I was trying to think of *any* job I haven't seen women working and the only thing I can come up with is our local trash collection routes... but it's not because they can't handle it, they just haven't applied for a job with my collector yet apparently.
 
Around the mid to late 90s, when a significant number of women were entering previously male-dominated jobs, the US Dept of Labor required companies to enroll all male employees in a new program that basically trained them to be gentlemen.

Companies had to offer (and pay for) the training whether it was necessary or not....whether the issue existed or not. If they didn't, they faced a fine and possibly losing their business license.
 
There doesn't need to be a competition... and women don't have to be as "physically strong" as men to be able to do the same jobs. I was trying to think of *any* job I haven't seen women working and the only thing I can come up with is our local trash collection routes... but it's not because they can't handle it, they just haven't applied for a job with my collector yet apparently.
Yes they do.

Take fire-fighting for example. The fire department puts their strongest men on the hoses. And construction companies put their strongest men on jobs like brick-hodding and operating pulleys, otherwise someone could die or be seriously injured.

I remember when fire departments had to lower the standards on their physical training and strength-tests so that women could pass them. To this day I doubt you'll see a female fire-fighter operating a hose, which is a lot like fighting a Sumo wrestler.
 
I was also proficient at setting up and running centerless grinders and milling machines.
What type of chisels did you use or did you even use chisels. Many people use shaped allen keys. If you use chisels, do you sharpen your own?

Turning different types of woods is loads of fun and the smell of different woods can be heavenly. Olive wood actually smells like olives.

Turning acrylic I’ll do but I don’t much fancy it and really don’t like the smell either.

I’ve never turned metal but have often wondered what it would be like. Instinctively I thought you turned metal.

Are you or were you a tool & dye maker by any chance?
 


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