Why is a firetruck called out to attend a death scene?

Here in Boston, fire, police and ambulance all respond to 911 calls. One reason is that when emergency dispatchers receive a 911 call, they are often not given precise or complete information. My brother-in-law's a cop, and he says they just never know. He told me of a case where a child called and said his mom was bleeding. They got there, only to be confronted by a man with a knife. That could turn out very badly if only the EMTs responded.

The fire trucks are also equipped with oxygen, a defibrillator, etc. and the firefighters are trained to use them. If they get there first, they can start giving aid. Police are equipped with injections to reverse drug overdoses. which seems to be a big problem these days.

It may seem like overkill, but better safe than sorry.
 

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Hopefully it's ok to ask this question: in a building that's far from airtight, how far can airborne pathogens travel?
I'm more than creeped out after learning downstairs neighbor died and decomposing body was directly below me for around a week before it/he was found.
Adding to the concern is landlord is notoriously unconcerned, lazy, and cheap, and certainly wouldn't have bothered with Hazmat cleaning afterward, either.
I can’t answer that question, but I can tell you that the smell can be detected (depending on temperature) in about 12-18 hours. Decomposition begins upon death or when the heart stops beating. Once you smell death, you will never forget it. I am sure that you have smelled decomposition of a dead animal. A human’s smell is more prevalent. The longer the body lays, the harsher the stench.

Two of us Troopers did a welfare check on the same person. The other Trooper was a rookie. After not being able to get an answer at the door, we entered the house and immediately smelled death. The man was probably laying dead for at least a few days. We immediately called the Coroner. The rookie Trooper said, “Wow, he’s huge.” I told him that he’s swelled, so don’t move him, but he didn’t listen.

I went upstairs to make sure the house was empty. I heard the rookie yell, (can’t print what he said), but he tried to turn him over and the body kind of messed itself. So, you can imagine the smell after that. (The body actually slightly exploded.)
 
Hopefully it's ok to ask this question: in a building that's far from airtight, how far can airborne pathogens travel?
I'm more than creeped out after learning downstairs neighbor died and decomposing body was directly below me for around a week before it/he was found.
Adding to the concern is landlord is notoriously unconcerned, lazy, and cheap, and certainly wouldn't have bothered with Hazmat cleaning afterward, either.
If the building isn't airtight, how was it no one detected the odor of a decomposing body? Good lord the odor is unique and cannot be missed. Especially in summertime.
 

If the building isn't airtight, how was it no one detected the odor of a decomposing body? Good lord the odor is unique and cannot be missed. Especially in summertime.
So true. A little mouse died between the walls in one of our bathrooms about 30 years ago. The stench was overwhelming. Rather than literally tearing the bathroom apart and taking that wall down to its studs, we left the window open, sealed the bathroom off with sheets of plastic, further sealed off that area of the house with more sheets of plastic, moved everyone to the other side of the house for a week, and kept all the other windows open for fresh air.
Don't get me started on the flies on that side of the house.

Sometime later I learned that exterminators have something they can squirt between the walls to desiccate a dead animal. Sure wish I'd known that at the time.

About 10 years ago we completely gutted and remodeled that bathroom and the little mouse skeleton was found. And when I say little, I do mean little.

Cannot imagine the amount and strength of odor a full size body would give off.
 
If the building isn't airtight, how was it no one detected the odor of a decomposing body? Good lord the odor is unique and cannot be missed. Especially in summertime.
When a person (or animal) dies, decomposition begins immediately. Internal organs accumulate gas and bloats. Once the organs have expanded as far as they can, they will explode. The contents, including blood will seep out of any of the body orifices, including the nose, mouth, eyes, ears or butt. Once the body swells beyond its limits, it is possible for it to also explode. The body also changes colors during decomposition from normal to red, green and even black. No matter the person’s original skin tone, the body does change colors during this process.

During an autopsy that I witnessed, a female was shot twice. Once in the gut and once in the head. When the ME made his first cut, even though I had smeared Vick’s under my nose, I could smell the gasses seep from the body. I must have looked bad because the ME asked me if I was alright. I just nodded my head, but I did become nauseated. It’s a smell like no other.
 
It's the job of firemen to extricate a victim in a collision. When they get a call they all respond.
I have helped do this myself using the “Jaws of Life.” Have you seen the newest version of this tool? It’s amazing and much quicker.
 
Here in Boston, fire, police and ambulance all respond to 911 calls. One reason is that when emergency dispatchers receive a 911 call, they are often not given precise or complete information. My brother-in-law's a cop, and he says they just never know. He told me of a case where a child called and said his mom was bleeding. They got there, only to be confronted by a man with a knife. That could turn out very badly if only the EMTs responded.

The fire trucks are also equipped with oxygen, a defibrillator, etc. and the firefighters are trained to use them. If they get there first, they can start giving aid. Police are equipped with injections to reverse drug overdoses. which seems to be a big problem these days.

It may seem like overkill, but better safe than sorry.
I carried an EpiPen with Epinephrine for allergic reactions and also Narcan for overdoses.
 
If the building isn't airtight, how was it no one detected the odor of a decomposing body? Good lord the odor is unique and cannot be missed. Especially in summertime.
I have very little sense of smell, plus I'd never been near a recently-deceased body before.

All I noticed one day were some flies in the window, but didn't think much of it because many around here aren't known for their clean habits.
A couple of days later when I walked past again there were larger quantities of flies, and I noticed an odd odor but didn't know for sure what it was. I figured I'd call the landlord the next day and ask him to check on the neighbor- was concerned if I called the police and all it was was rotting food or something they'd think I was nuts.
Fortunately, landlord called me before I had the chance to call him- another neighbor had already called, and "police and others" had already been there which I also hadn't noticed.

If that's what death smells like, I hope I never encounter it again. :(
 
When a person (or animal) dies, decomposition begins immediately. Internal organs accumulate gas and bloats. Once the organs have expanded as far as they can, they will explode. The contents, including blood will seep out of any of the body orifices, including the nose, mouth, eyes, ears or butt. Once the body swells beyond its limits, it is possible for it to also explode. The body also changes colors during decomposition from normal to red, green and even black. No matter the person’s original skin tone, the body does change colors during this process.

During an autopsy that I witnessed, a female was shot twice. Once in the gut and once in the head. When the ME made his first cut, even though I had smeared Vick’s under my nose, I could smell the gasses seep from the body. I must have looked bad because the ME asked me if I was alright. I just nodded my head, but I did become nauseated. It’s a smell like no other.
Awhile back I had to do a couple of work projects on 'cleaning up after dead bodies,' but the main issue was the bacteria. Oddly enough, odor wasn't even addressed. Well I certainly know it NOW. :(
 
They may need to squirt the remains of broken glass & blood off the road, in the case of auto accidents. The Ohio Highway Parrol carried gallons of Pepsi in the trunk to remove blood from the highway.....or for Broderick Crawford. :unsure:
 
1. Firemen are better equipped and trained to deal with certain emergencies than the police or ambulances. I was told this when I asked the same question years ago, but I can't remember what they are specifically better equipped to deal with.

2. Fire departments are usually more ready, on call, and the fastest responders we have. I've heard if you want to stop a burglary, call the fire department before you call the police.

3. Accidents can start fires from leaking fuel, downed power lines, and fumbled cigarettes. It's nice to have a fireman handy when this happens at an accident.

My first thought when I think of ambulance is a thing to get you to a hospital as quickly as possible. When you need this service, they can do better than a fire truck. Police are there to direct traffic and chase off looters and spectators who get in the way. A fire truck may or may not be needed, but when a call comes in that there is an accident, no one can be sure what's needed.

The whole shebang is a team of highly qualified specialists. Just last week, I passed a brutal accident on the highway. The whole lot of responders were all there and a mile down the road in an open field was a Medivac helicopter ready to go. I met more ambulances and police headed that way as I continued on. It was impressive. I'm not going to complain about overkill, mostly because all I knew was that car parts were scattered all over the road. I couldn't say what was needed or not needed.
 
Paramedics would be with the fire dept., A public agency. Ambulance service is a private business. Some are under contract to the city or county, and will respond if requested.
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Is this common in every state?
NO! Here fire and ambulances are the same public dept. There are also private ambulance services, but they are mainly long distance transport that the public ambulances don't do unless emergency. Every paramedic here is also trained in fire. It is a requirement to become a paramedic. ENT's used in the public ambulance are generally trainees and after 2-4 years if they don't become paramedics, they will have to go work for a private company or find other employment. The first class paramedics here have at least a bachelors degree in emergency services, some a masters. Many are more knowledgeable of emergency medicine than the registered nurses in the emergency room.

Every response here whether ambulance or fire, requires at least one paramedic. The nature of the call dictates what trucks respond. If an accident or fire, the Chief or his Lieutenant are first with a basic tool truck. If a larger tool truck is needed, then he makes that judgement call. If the police are first to respond, then they make a judgement call, but always the Chief's rig is the lead and may call just a tool truck, the big fully equipped fire trucks, or maybe just the small fire truck. We also have a special Haz Mat truck that is a specialized version of the big tool truck.

It is interesting that all the different trucks have different siren sounds, with the firetrucks the only ones with airhorns. After 30 years living next to the station, I can tell who is responding without looking out. If I am outside, I always hold my right hand on my heart and my left in salute as they pass to show appreciation and say be safe. One of my neighbors, an old Japanese lady, holds her hands in prayer and bows slightly as they pass.

Fire and ambulance don't respond to just any accident like a minor fender bender. Who responds depends on the nature of the call. In domestic disputes, police respond and if mental illness or drugs are suspected, they call the ambulance that will have at least one paramedic, most times two and one maybe two ENT's. All paramedics here have emergency mental illness training.

If a smell that one reports as a possible dead body, then police are first with paramedics following.

The human dead body while having a distinct smell, does vary. One from gunshot or blade wounds will differ from one that OD'ed on drugs or alcohol. The alcohol OD has it's own distinct odor. The worse from my experience, is the smell of one burning alive. The last 58 years of my life have been affected by that smell. The only therapy that has helped me some, was hypnosis. All I can tell you is, it isn't a smell, a sight, nor a sound, you ever want to experience. Nothing is more horrible! I have PTSD from it and other things I cannot unsmell, unhear, or unsee.

Back to the OP, to sum it up, it all varies by state, county, and municipality. In Texas a game warden can stop and ticket you with speeding since they are state police. They may also be the first on the scene of a fire. The same here, but game wardens are so few and far between, that they will call in a speeder and continue on to where they were going. They will stop and help fight fire or save lives as these situations negate the urgency of their other calls.
 
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Is this common in every state?
That varies from State to State, and even County, to County, in the USA. In Canada, there are " NO Private Ambulance Services "

There ARE Private "non emergency patient transport companies " that cannot offer Paramedic services to the public. They are only allowed to do " Non emergency patient transfer trips, where the patient is unable to walk, or has some other limiting physical problem. In Canada, those "non emergency vehicles " cannot even have the word AMBULANCE on the vehicle, by Provincial law. Each Province and Territory has it's own legislation about what constitutes an "Ambulance " and who can be qualified to be called a "Paramedic ". Source: I worked for Metro Toronto Ambulance for ten years, 1977, to 1987. JimB.
 
Ambulance service is a private business.
Is this common in every state?
This discussion got me curious so I looked mine up. I live in a fairly lightly populated large county. Most of the people live in or around the largest town. We have 52,182 people in an area of 5,745 square miles. About 70 acres per person, but most of that land is uninhabited; very dry desert or wetter but rugged mountains.

The county operates a publicly owned ambulance service in the larger town. There are two privately owned ones in smaller more remote towns. So a mixed bag here.
 
I live near a 55 and older complex and the fire / paramedics in separate truck come often ....
i always noticed when or IF they transport they have the extra fire crew to help lift the gurney especially if patient is large.
4 (or more) guys lifting instead of two struggling makes sense but i do wonder all the back and forth for non emergency calls etc....
 

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