A bleak topic, but do you have a plan if the **** hits the fan (Besides duck)

I don't think anyone knows what their plan would actually be until something really happened. I would never 'jump in the toilet and flush.' lol I take what comes at me and use common sense to deal with the situation at hand.
 

Depends on what type of disaster. In the case of nuclear war I'd start running toward the fireballs hoping to be wiped out quickly by the blast. A deadly pandemic kind of takes care of itself. All the anti-vaccers will go first. That'll leave the smarter people behind. Societal revolt? Likely easily avoided.

The biggest danger we face today is Social Media, and the general lack of ability in discerning fact from fiction. Social Media has ushered in a period where people can hold and promote views without consequence. So we end up with political madness, and divisions that will take a lot of healing.
 
Ever since I was little ..my mother talked about Nuclear war .. she was sure it was coming.. (no sweet little red riding hood stories for us.. all Atom Bombs and terror)... and she would always say that if we were to have a nuclear war, ( atom bomb at the time).. she would want it to land right on her head... because the alternative would be too awful.. I agree..
 
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I haven't put a lot of thought into it, no... but now that you asked, I'll have to. 😊 Deadly pandemic... I'd do everything I can to make sure my family is safe... (assuming that's what we'd all do.) Societal revolt... gee... I don't know, but I guess I'd stay out of sight as much as possible. It often gets "too peopley" for me out there anyhow even now.

Nuclear stuff... nothing I could do. I live near a nuclear plant and there's always the threat of a meltdown so I kept iodine tablets on hand for a long time... but then I just stopped buying them and worrying about it. But no flushing 🚽 ... I'd just deal with whatever it was.
 
Gemma said:
I don't think anyone knows what their plan would actually be until something really happened. I would never 'jump in the toilet and flush.' lol I take what comes at me and use common sense to deal with the situation at hand.
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It's a topic one has to consider if one might be captured by an enemy who believes in torture. Self deliverance is more merciful than a sadistic enemy so perhaps this is why he asked the question? It's common sense and I would not be averse to this solution if the alternative were unendurable.
 
bobcat48 said:
Just wondering if you have put much thought into what you might do if there were a catastrophe (Nuclear winter, deadly pandemic, societal revolt
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When I retired in 2012 I thought it would be a good idea to get prepared, TBH I think the TV show "Doomsday Preppers" was airing at the time, so that probably had an influence.
So, I've got 55 gal drums of water, lots of ammo for my weapons, basic stuff like a generator, fuel containers, solar powered radio and lighting. Extra food is something I haven't dealt with, maybe have a month's worth of rations, but I'm not going to buy any of those over-priced food rations that are supposedly good for 25 years.
 
Good question. Depends on how devestating.
But, also a less stressful thought is in the case of severe weather, or something health related (nope, just the flu), In conversations like this, I often think of The Stand by Stephen King. Plague (just the flu) kills off 99% of people
 
It would depend on what it is. I have discussed it with relatives who know I might not stick around for all of it. If food is an issue I would give mine to some young neighbors. If fighting is needed that would be a way to try to do some good on my way out.
 
I've always been a survivalist, so my mind always goes to that. Sometimes our concept of things is actually worse than reality.
I think I would try to gather as much information as possible, keep calm, and make a plan that fit the scenario.

If you weren't close to a nuclear target (Missile silos, air bases, etc...) you wouldn't be directly affected by any blast. Also radiation dissipates rather quickly as it travels, so either distance, or sealing up your home is important for about 72 hrs. The other problem is fallout which normally follows air currents that carry it downwind.

No one really knows if a nuclear winter would even occur. It all depends on whether dust and debris even makes it into the upper levels of the atmosphere, where it could stay for extended periods, but if not, it would settle back to earth. So it would be a wait and see. But, if it did happen, you would need a storehouse of supplies that could get you by for a minimum of a year. If it were a giant asteroid, it would be rather similar to nuclear.

A deadly pandemic would be also a hunker down period till it ran out of hosts, but the upside is no nuclear winter, so you could grow your own vegees and livestock, and stay put, although you would have to protect your assets.
 
Marie5656 said:
Good question. Depends on how devestating.
But, also a less stressful thought is in the case of severe weather, or something health related (nope, just the flu), In conversations like this, I often think of The Stand by Stephen King. Plague (just the flu) kills off 99% of people
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I tell you what book will scare the pants off you ...Rats by James Herbert..if you haven't already read it...
 
chic said:
It's a topic one has to consider if one might be captured by an enemy who believes in torture. Self deliverance is more merciful than a sadistic enemy so perhaps this is why he asked the question? It's common sense and I would not be averse to this solution if the alternative were unendurable.
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We don't live in a city @chic. It's very rural where we are located. Our backyard consists of over 15,000 acres of land. The terrain is mountainous and wooded in all directions. If an enemy would be on our property, we'd know and have the upper hand.

My attitude has always been, if someone shoots or attacks me, they had better kill me first, because if they don't, I can guarantee you, they would live to regret it.
 
Preppers are not so crazy these days.
In the military I was assigned to an infantry division as a nuclear armament and security.
We were told that if we deployed, the nuclear round, we would not survive.
Our weapons had a specific max range. Prior to detonation we would dig foxholes to lie in. Once denoted, we were to lie as flat as we could in the foxholes, once the explosion happens, the air is displaced away from the radius of impact. Home, cars, buildings, trees all come flying out of the impact zone. Once time has passed, the vacuum created will replenish, pulling all the debris back towards the detonation point. By laying flat, it was our best chances to not be hit by the debris.
If we survived that, we probably would not survive the next 6-9 months.
Thankfully we never had to engage for real, but our days were filled with simulation exercises.
 
bobcat48 said:
I've always been a survivalist, so my mind always goes to that. Sometimes our concept of things is actually worse than reality.
I think I would try to gather as much information as possible, keep calm, and make a plan that fit the scenario.

If you weren't close to a nuclear target (Missile silos, air bases, etc...) you wouldn't be directly affected by any blast. Also radiation dissipates rather quickly as it travels, so either distance, or sealing up your home is important for about 72 hrs. The other problem is fallout which normally follows air currents that carry it downwind.

No one really knows if a nuclear winter would even occur. It all depends on whether dust and debris even makes it into the upper levels of the atmosphere, where it could stay for extended periods, but if not, it would settle back to earth. So it would be a wait and see. But, if it did happen, you would need a storehouse of supplies that could get you by for a minimum of a year. If it were a giant asteroid, it would be rather similar to nuclear.

A deadly pandemic would be also a hunker down period till it ran out of hosts, but the upside is no nuclear winter, so you could grow your own vegees and livestock, and stay put, although you would have to protect your assets.
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I have been trained through FEMA on Pandemic Planning back in 2010. We continually would go through simulation exercises.
COVID was once of the most minor pandemics we simulated for, well before pandemic was a household word.
There are pandemics that would wipe whole societies, cultures, and wide swaths of people that the downstream impacts would be irreversible.
 
Sippican said:
Preppers are not so crazy these days.
In the military I was assigned to an infantry division as a nuclear armament and security.
We were told that if we deployed, the nuclear round, we would not survive.
Our weapons had a specific max range. Prior to detonation we would dig foxholes to lie in. Once denoted, we were to lie as flat as we could in the foxholes, once the explosion happens, the air is displaced away from the radius of impact. Home, cars, buildings, trees all come flying out of the impact zone. Once time has passed, the vacuum created will replenish, pulling all the debris back towards the detonation point. By laying flat, it was our best chances to not be hit by the debris.
If we survived that, we probably would not survive the next 6-9 months.
Thankfully we never had to engage for real, but our days were filled with simulation exercises.
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gulp ;gulp and third gulp - and I haven't even my third morning coffee yet!!
 
Sippican said:
I have been trained through FEMA on Pandemic Planning back in 2010. We continually would go through simulation exercises.
COVID was once of the most minor pandemics we simulated for, well before pandemic was a household word.
There are pandemics that would wipe whole societies, cultures, and wide swaths of people that the downstream impacts would be irreversible.
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Have you written any books, @Sippican? Your experience is very useful to know. Or do you recommend any book?
 
I was once asked by a bank CEO, "what would happen to physical money in our banks during a nuclear impact".
My response was, "Why would you care? Money would be the last thing we would care about".

There is a 10 mile radius and a 60 mile radius. That was the recommend evacuation distance in the nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Ōkuma, Fukushima, Japan.
The problem with evacuations, everyone will be taking the same routes. There would be a traffic jam everywhere.
I had to build a nuclear plan once for an investment company. There was no good outcome given they were 9 miles from one of the high risk nuclear plants.
 
palides2021 said:
Have you written any books, @Sippican? Your experience is very useful to know. Or do you recommend any book?
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Funny, you asked.
Many people in the industry have asked if I thought of writing a book.
Now that I'm retired, I think that would make a great project. Thanks for the inspiration!
 

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