What can we do about Ageism?

Go back to work?

In that factory with 500 women wearing scanty clothes because of the heat?

And me with my Tarzan physique?

And me with a huge freezer full of ice cream in my office?

Do you think that I'm barmy?

OK, I'd do it in a heartbeat. 😊
 
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ageism is like any other ism ...... a few bad apples.......and a stereotype is born and it is then believed to be so....

I have not personally experienced it....... but i have seen enough of people who were the driving force behind people wanting to avoid the older customer for example.
 
Quackers said:
Sorry, I've made a balls up of multiquoting again. Can't get the hang of it on this forum.


Vaughn and HollyDolly, you're both wrong . There is no 'forced' retirement these days. It was abolished in 2011:.

'Employers used to be able to force workers to retire at 65 (known as the Default Retirement Age), but this law was scrapped in April 2011, following a campaign by Age UK'.

Can I be forced to retire? | Work & Learning | Age UK

Working after State Pension age

Hollydolly - you can work return to work. No-one is stopping you - so get out there ;)
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Agree with all you say. There is no forced retirement!
If someone wants to work, nothing is stopping them...nothing!

I also live in the south of England and no one backs away from me when I smile at them or start a conversation. What poppycock!
 
Georgiagranny said:
Living proof here that I haven't been a victim of ageism👵 LOL if anything, it's been my experience that employers are tickled pink to find people "of a certain age" who want to work.

And retail clerks are delighted to wait on people old enough to remember to say please and thank you and remember their manners in general.
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It is not surprising you have not experienced ageism... because you are willing to get out there and show the young whingers how it's done. If I recall, you are in your 80's ? Some should look to you as an example.
 
The world has changed if anyone has missed that change...let me say ageism is not something to croak about.
When one door closes, open a window FGS!!
Older people have a lot of experience at their fingertips... use it. Employers know this and want it. A change of career is not the end of the world. It can be very refreshing.
 
Jamala said:
What's to stop you doing something different to what you were used to? ?
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I only know how do a few things. And of those, a smaller number that I would enjoy.

Jamala said:
It is not surprising you have not experienced ageism... because you are willing to get out there and show the young whingers how it's done. If I recall, you are in your 80's ? Some should look to you as an example.
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While I happily applaud someone in their 80's still getting out there, it's not everyones ideal. Having worked a lifetime, not working is a nice break before the old body gives up and I'm fit for the scrap heap. I'm not defined by the work I did, and I certainly don't have the drive and ambition any more. Working into my 80's isn't a choice I'd personally make, but more power to those that do.

As I've said, I get calls periodically asking me to do a 6 month contract or even 12 months. But it just doesn't light my fire.
 
Ageism can be quite subtle but it is pervasive, and is seldom met with the outrage and condemnation that racism and sexism are. Western popular culture continues to convey the message that getting older is somehow vaguely shameful, and that aging, although inevitable, must be concealed at all costs…
 
Fyrefox said:
Ageism can be quite subtle but it is pervasive, and is seldom met with the outrage and condemnation that racism and sexism are. Western popular culture continues to convey the message that getting older is somehow vaguely shameful, and that aging, although inevitable, must be concealed at all costs…
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Hell, today women (and some men) in the 20's and 30's are getting Botox jabbed into their faces because of the perils of them looking older! Getting older, and looking natural is a bit of a no-no these days.
 
Pepper said:

Ariana Grande reveals she had ‘a ton’ of lip filler and Botox, but stopped years ago​

By Jacqui Palumbo, CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/13/style/ariana-grande-lip-filler-botox-vogue/index.html

She stopped "years ago." She's 30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, does she want kudos? Mind, today we praise the famous for how great they look after all these years, when they've been under the knife to achieve it. Is that really an achievement?

Saying that, when I look in the mirror I sometimes wonder - "what the hell happened." :D
 
David777 said:
With the rise of the Internet, that made it easy to ignore experienced older technology worker resumes applying for jobs that was just a trash can toss away. They eliminated walk in and phone contacts for jobs to HR departments. They had tech gurus train crews of the inexperienced. And yeah they all advertised jobs for guru levels while those in the middle technology levels were removed often in layoffs. Experienced workers fled to sales and management positions or changed their careers.
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One of the last jobs I applied for before retiring was a part-time lunch relief bank teller at a small bank in Georgia. I was way over qualified, my last job being a loan officer at the Pentagon Federal Credit Union. It was just what I wanted since I had a volunteer job with children in the morning and just wanted a few hours of paid work.

I walked my resume in to the receptionist, we exchanged a few polite words, and as I walked to the glass exit, I could see the reflection of the young manager as he motioned to her to pitch the resume into the trash. Ageism exists as well as sexism and a look around could tell me that this particular young man saw the teller line as his personal dating pool.

It was okay, I got job just like it at another bank and had lots of fun there.
 
I was about to turn 50. Went for a job interview with a Lawyer. Noticed all the 'girls' in the office were in their 20's. The job I was interviewing for was a travelling one, out of the office most days. So the Lawyer asks "How OLD are you Anyway?" Instead of answering correctly "How is that relevant to this job?" I got flustered. A Lawyer who knew he was breaking the law.

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It's nice not to have to look for work anymore
 
VaughanJB said:
I only know how do a few things. And of those, a smaller number that I would enjoy.



While I happily applaud someone in their 80's still getting out there, it's not everyones ideal. Having worked a lifetime, not working is a nice break before the old body gives up and I'm fit for the scrap heap. I'm not defined by the work I did, and I certainly don't have the drive and ambition any more. Working into my 80's isn't a choice I'd personally make, but more power to those that do.

As I've said, I get calls periodically asking me to do a 6 month contract or even 12 months. But it just doesn't light my fire.
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Gotcha!
 
(don't know why I can't quote your original message Fuzzy) but in answer to your questions:

..... 'Here, in the US, we can work till we drop.

Same here Fuzzy, we can work till we drop too.
(see below when an employer can force retirement) ***


What happens at age 66 in the UK?
It means we can draw the state pension currently 66, but from April 2026 it will start increasing gradually, reaching 67 two years later.

Can you get a part time job or something?
Yes, full time, part time.... whatever

What's Asda? '
Asda's a supermarket over here.


***When you can be forced to retire:

In some cases an employer can force you to retire at a certain age - known as ‘compulsory retirement age’. If they do this they must give a good reason why, for example:

the job requires certain physical abilities (eg in the construction industry)
the job has an age limit set by law (eg the fire service)
 
hollydolly said:
forced retirment at 66 actually... which enrages me... I want to return to work !!..and no I don't want to work in Asda..
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How old are you Hollydolly and who forced you to retire? It must have been before 2011, which is a long time ago - plenty of time to get another job ;)

What's wrong with working in Asda? You might meet a date :D
 
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