Looting In Philadelphia, Social Media Influencer may have triggered it

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There have been two nights of looting in Philadelphia but apparently unrelated to seperate protests of a court decision on a controversial police shooting. A social media influencer was arrested and is believed to be the cause or help promote the mayhem. It started when a caravan of cars/thieves showed up in front of designer clothing and shoes stores.

Over 50 arrested after mobs ransacked Philadelphia stores. Dozens of liquor outlets are shut down

Teary-eyed influencer ‘Meatball’ who livestreamed Philadelphia looting mayhem is charged with 6 felonies

Looters struck all over the city including hitting 18 wine and spirits stores. All alcohol stores were shut down in Philadelphia after 1/3 received damage.

All 48 liquor stores in Philadelphia close after a third are damaged

More looting a second night.

Another night of looting erupts in Philadelphia

It appears these are not protesters just criminals trying to exploit/hide behind a tragic shooting.

But this shows how many of these flash smash and grab robberies are not spontaneous protest. They are planned or orchestrated events.
 

A simple way to nip this in the Bud..is to jail any media influencers, who are the cause of Looting, to 25 years without Parole.. ..any other looters, caught with stolen goods should have a mandatory 10 years regardless of whether they've stolen one thing or a hundred
 
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hollydolly said:
A simple way to nip this in the Bud..is to jail any media influencers, who are the cause of Looting, to 25 years without Parole.. ..any other looters, caught with stolen goods should have a mandatory 10 years regardless of whether they've stolen one thing or a hundred
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Far less costly than locking away large numbers in jails/prisons would be allowing corporal punishment. In fact in our state despite sentencing laws, many serve little time because of overcrowding and don't pay fines because they are too poor and hide any assets. As long as open border and visa overstay excessive illegal immigration continues, such will only become worse.
 

hollydolly said:
A simple way to nip this in the Bud..is to jail any media influencers, who are the cause of Looting, to 25 years without Parole.. ..any other looters, caught with stolen goods should have a mandatory 10 years regardless of whether they've stolen one thing or a hundred
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David777 said:
Far less costly than locking away large numbers in jails/prisons would be allowing corporal punishment. In fact in our state despite sentencing laws, many serve little time because of overcrowding and don't pay fines because they are too poor and hide any assets. As long as open border and visa overstay excessive illegal immigration continues, such will only become worse.
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Hollydolly is talking about giving stiff sentences to just the people who incite the looting, though.

And I don't think the looters are mostly illegal immigrants. In every social media clip, security cam recording and badge-cam I've seen, they're young American "gangstas"....probably unemployed.
 
These lootings apparently were all over the city including a business district in the inner city, a mall and alot of misc locations being they hit 18 different liquor stores. Mobility shows a degree a preparation ie cars. Have to wonder if any cars in the initial caravan were stolen.
 
chic said:
I think it must be more than that. :(
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From what I've read and heard is not just using fentanyl straight up is that drug dealers are mixing fentanyl in with other drugs to enhance or simulate the high, maybe even using as substitute for something else. This could make drug smokers even more dangerous now because they're spreading more than second hand smoke. Same for pills and other drugs left around kids could get such as a 1 year old did in the NYC daycare.

All this along with other accidental contact by other adults including law enforcement

But this looting wasn't about junkies looking for drug money. Some may have participated but those that planned and facilitated it did it out of greed and ignorance.
 
chic said:
I think it must be more than that. :(
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Joblessness, poverty, a high dropout rate, and the expense of higher education are factors, no doubt. And it's extremely unfortunate that middle-schools and high-schools still aren't offering students choices like trade schools and apprenticeship programs.

Also, when gang kings drive around in brand new cars and flash their drug money and possessions on social media and all that, dumb kids get lured into that life, mostly doing whatever their king tells them to do.
 
Murrmurr said:
Joblessness, poverty, a high dropout rate, and the expense of higher education are factors, no doubt. And it's extremely unfortunate that middle-schools and high-schools still aren't offering students choices like trade schools and apprenticeship programs.

Also, when gang kings drive around in brand new cars and flash their drug money and possessions on social media and all that, dumb kids get lured into the that life, mostly doing whatever their king tells them to do.
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I thought it was more than just one thing. You're probably right. Sad change.
 
chic said:
I thought it was more than just one thing. You're probably right. Sad change.
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You know, you've also got mainstream media and social media drumming it into young people's heads that they have a minimal chance at success in life, and that they don't have the opportunities we had, which is a total lie.
 
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Murrmurr said:
Hollydolly is talking about giving stiff sentences to just the people who incite the looting, though.

And I don't think the looters are mostly illegal immigrants. In every social media clip, security cam recording and badge-cam I've seen, they're young American "gangstas"....probably unemployed.
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Agree. My input was too terse to understand my indirect perspective and even my input below is in any case, more complex than can be adequately presented.

Illegal immigration tends to make our USA citizen low skilled poor, even poorer because excessive numbers of immigrants take low level jobs and undercut wages. Heck today in many urban places, middle class teenagers can't get worthwhile low end jobs. Their constant incoming numbers also causes a reduction in available low end housing that drives up low end housing costs due to supply and demand, forcing those people into higher cost housing than they would otherwise choose aggravating lives resulting in many more into homelessness.

Those moving into more expensive housing than they would choose often by excessive numbers crowding into units, in turn puts pressure on reducing available working middle class housing causing those folks to also move into higher cost housing than they would choose because they have no choice. And all of it aggravates inflation we all suffer from.

This then ends up providing more buyers of expensive new housing that Wall Street real estate, construction, and financial corporations are only interested in building. Of course they blame all this on other elements like "We need to build more housing"... yeah more ridiculously expensive housing as they retire laughing at the rest of us while playing golf in Miami Beach and Palm Springs.

Meanwhile our poor in order to survive, do whatever they have to including committing crimes. Over years, that disconnects and changes attitudes of whole segments of society from productive, law abiding lifestyles.
 
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David777 said:
Agree. My input was too terse to understand my indirect perspective and even my input below is in any case, more complex than can be adequately presented.

Illegal immigration tends to make our USA citizen low skilled poor, even poorer because excessive numbers of immigrants take low level jobs and undercut wages. Heck today in many urban places, middle class teenagers can't get worthwhile low end jobs. Their constant incoming numbers also causes a reduction in available low end housing that drives up low end housing costs due to supply and demand, forcing those people into higher cost housing than they would otherwise choose aggravating lives resulting in many more into homelessness.

Those moving into more expensive housing than they would choose often by excessive numbers crowding into units, in turn puts pressure on reducing available working middle class housing causing those folks to also move into higher cost housing than they would choose because they have no choice. And all of it aggravates inflation we all suffer from.

This then ends up providing more buyers of expensive new housing that Wall Street real estate, construction, and financial corporations are only interested in building. Of course they blame all this on other elements like "We need to build more housing"... yeah more ridiculously expensive housing as they retire laughing at the rest of us while playing golf in Miami Beach and Palm Springs.

Meanwhile our poor in order to survive, do whatever they have to including committing crimes. Over years, that disconnects and changes attitudes of whole segments of society from productive, law abiding lifestyles.
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Your input is indeed complex, as are solutions to the problems.

I stand firm in my opinion that America's education system needs massive improvement, and that better education would solve a lot of problems, including the crime rate, substance abuse and homelessness. And I don't doubt that education in the US would make stunning leaps if we shut down the Department of Education.
 

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