Our once great society is circling the bowl. I need to rant.

DGM

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My eighty-year-old wife went to Kroger's Wednesday. Her back was killing her (four back surgeries and a neck surgery). She asked a young man if he could place three eight-packs of Coke in her cart or atop the cart on the rails. This would probably have taken thirty seconds to do. The young "man"` (sarcasm) said he was in a hurry. She asked another young man who was with his wife. He too was in too much of a hurry to render assistance. THIS is what our society has become? I shudder to think what I'd have done if I'd overheard someone refusing to help someone in that position. This disgusts me beyond belief.
And, before you judge me for not going to the store for my wife, she LOVES to go, and I was tied up with furnace repair.
 

The only Good Thing about being old is Everyone rushes to help me. I rarely even have to ask. Most times I don't need the help offered! But when I do ask, what a rush to be there for me.

NYC gets a bad rap, always has. The kindness of the young people I've met has been overwhelming. Middle age folks too.

Sorry about your wife's experience.
 
I have hurry-upitis. Can't figure out what my rush is. Would like to slow the rush down.
The same with me. But, I had my elderly mom at home whom I took care of 24/7. So it was always in and out for me. She passed in March this year, but I noticed that I still was out and back home in a flash. I had to consciously slow myself down and force myself to walk around in the store slowly. Now, I am much better and actually enjoy looking at all the different stuff in the store.
 
My eighty-year-old wife went to Kroger's Wednesday. Her back was killing her (four back surgeries and a neck surgery). She asked a young man if he could place three eight-packs of Coke in her cart or atop the cart on the rails. This would probably have taken thirty seconds to do. The young "man"` (sarcasm) said he was in a hurry. She asked another young man who was with his wife. He too was in too much of a hurry to render assistance. THIS is what our society has become? I shudder to think what I'd have done if I'd overheard someone refusing to help someone in that position. This disgusts me beyond belief.
And, before you judge me for not going to the store for my wife, she LOVES to go, and I was tied up with furnace repair.
That's very sad, but best not to paint with a broad brush. I have witnessed many acts of kindness toward older people or handicapped folks in supermarkets and parking lots. I myself often help anyone who seems to be struggling to do something, they don't even need to ask, I ask them if it's okay for me to lend a hand.

Lots of good and kind people in this world, good to acknowledge that, not all doom and gloom.
 
I'm an almost 80 year old, white haired geezer in a wheelchair. People are always trying to help me. Some won't take "no" for an answer.
I don't think society is falling apart. Everybody thinks the past is this idealic version of heaven on earth. We're just as crummy as we've always have been, and will always be.
I am a tall guy. When I see women looking at the top shelf in a store pondering it I often walk over and ask if I can reach something they want. They usually smile at me and thank me. I like that.

One time I was in a crowded parking lot at a Costco when a woman who was half my age walked up to me with a huge cart full of stuff and TOLD me she wanted me to load her car. I asked myself if I looked like a store employee. I didn't. And, I didn't load her car. It is the approach that counts. Be nice and your chances are much better at getting what you want.
 
The only Good Thing about being old is Everyone rushes to help me. I rarely even have to ask. Most times I don't need the help offered! But when I do ask, what a rush to be there for me.

NYC gets a bad rap, always has. The kindness of the young people I've met has been overwhelming. Middle age folks too.

Sorry about your wife's experience.
Lots of good, compassionate, friendly New Yorkers, I agree NY gets a bad rap.
 
MIxed bag here reliant on a power chair but overall I have to agree with you and i'm in NY albeit upstate not the City - thank God.

In my small neighborhood IGA built in the 60s and the same size it always was so picture your typical 1960s supermarket which by today's standards is small, I can ask for help and get it with a pleasant they're glad to. It's my go to between if I run out or get to craving something. Note: this is in a two-mile square village. Yes, I think that makes a difference.

Go to the larger town's my village resides in, not even the neighboring city's (not stating which one but note no capital on city - here in NY there's city and the City which means NYC) - quite the opposite experience akin to your wife's. There's no way in hell I'd live downstate. Not even LI let alone NYC. Sorry to those who it's going to offend but NYC/LI is hell on earth.

My daughter now tackles that for me and if she didn't, I'd use delivery instead though even that has changed. I was getting delivery for a while. The big supermarket handled it themselves and service was not only polite, courteous and friendly making chit chat small talk to an old lady while they unloaded my groceries but they would put my 12 packs of Snapple on the counter next to my fridge for me and my water on the opposite end (since I don't refrigerate that) without complaint. Just part of the job, ma'am, when I apologized because I have a bad habit of apologizing when I ask for a favor.

Now they've all gone over to Instacart which is a mixed bag just like all those kind of apps (uber, grub hub, etc.) and luck of the draw who you get as the driver. Naw, I have trouble getting to the IGA in winter at the other end of main street than me due to NY's six months of snow but if, for any reason, my daughter can't get for me, IGA's will suffice for all my grocery needs.

When it comes to Uber, I let them know mobility device (resort to walker with difficulty because powerchair ain't going in anywhere) and have been flat out refused for needing them to fold into trunk. And, no, it's not because too big for their trunk because to drive Uber or Lyft, your car has to meet certain specifications including trunk size and minimum trunk size is more than necessary for my walker. They just don't want to do the work of folding it into the trunk.

Not only what your wife experienced - I've had people start to go into an aisle see my powerchair and quickly leave before I could ask for help - but traveling in parking lots, on sidewalks anywhere in public, they seem to unrealistically expect a power chair to jump out of their way instead of walking their able body around it and I always drive on the right.

But when the sidewalk's too narrow and one of us has to go over the grass, the powerchair ain't going to do it, a-hole, like you nimbly can and should be grateful for Guess you won't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

But that baffles me, before my working legs were gone, I did realize that I could go over grass etc where wheelchairs could not. It baffles me this get out of my way wheelchair atittude. I mean how can they not realize this?

Thank you for the opportunity to also rant.
 
I think this was just an unfortunate set of circumstances whereby each person really was too busy to help.

Most people go out of their way to help seniors with lifting items and such.
QFT. It's funny, the employees at the grocery store ask me if I need help taking my groceries to my car, makes me chuckle to myself. Someday I may take them up on the offer, hope that day is well into the future. :unsure:
 
It's the holidays. People take leave of their senses. Those behind the wheel are even worse. Gotta get ready a month ahead for that one day. They may even have a crazed look in the eyes.

It's one day! Don't have to run past aged shoppers to get stuff no one needs, for people who don't even want to be thankful, much less send a note to let you know they got your gift. Thanksgiving is over thank God. Something like 30 shopping days till Christmas. Put your gear on and get going if you think it matters.
 
My eighty-year-old wife went to Kroger's Wednesday. Her back was killing her (four back surgeries and a neck surgery). She asked a young man if he could place three eight-packs of Coke in her cart or atop the cart on the rails. This would probably have taken thirty seconds to do. The young "man"` (sarcasm) said he was in a hurry. She asked another young man who was with his wife. He too was in too much of a hurry to render assistance. THIS is what our society has become? I shudder to think what I'd have done if I'd overheard someone refusing to help someone in that position. This disgusts me beyond belief.
And, before you judge me for not going to the store for my wife, she LOVES to go, and I was tied up with furnace repair.
I had a similar situation in the supermarket a few weeks ago. I needed to reach a Thermos flask on the top shelf which seemed to be priced at £12.. when I knew they were only half that .. there was middle age female 'manager'' younger than me standing on the opposite shelves in the same aisle who was ticketing some goods.

I asked ..always politely ...if she could reach for the Thermos for me and give me a price check ..and she tutted very loudly...

I would have walked off at that point, but I was in no mood to go anywhere else to find a Thermos.. so I said nothing, just kept smiling.. , she got the Thermos down, and in a completely sarcastic voice said.. ''well you were wrong then weren't you.. the price is not what you can see.''... well of course there was no price on it..she'd had to scan it to find the true price..

I'm telling you, on any other day she would have been under no illusions as to what I thought of her.. but this day.. I had to get the thing and get out fast, because I was due somewhere else.. but I was steaming mad...
 
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Citing the instance of not getting help before checking out & taking the purchases to the car seems a little premature to judge society as a whole. At the checkout was she helped with lifting? At her car was she helped with lifting? When she got home was she with lifting?

Not knowing what the reason for not helping other than in a hurry does sound awful. My wife on the few times she grocery shops never experienced that. So it might be one of those rare times when two people actually were in a hurry. BTW my wife is 79 so her age is close enough to occasionally qualify for being in need of help .
 
I asked ..always politely ...if she could reach for the Thermos for me and give me a price check ..and she tutted very loudly...

I would have walked off at that point, but I was in no mood to go anywhere else to find a Thermos.. so I said nothing, just kept smiling.. , she got the Thermos down, and in a completely sarcastic voice said.. ''well you were wrong then weren't you.. the price is not what you can see.''... well of course there was no price on it..she'd had to scan it to find the true price..
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I am completely disillusioned, always thought of Brits as being so genteel and friendly.
 

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