Hundreds of children hospitalised in China from a serious type of pneumonia.

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A rise in cases of an unknown illness in China is being investigated by health officials, with children being hospitalised with pneumonia. While the situation remains unclear, it appears most likely that these outbreaks are due to a resurgence of common respiratory pathogens after the country’s strict coronavirus lockdowns, rather than being the result of a new infection. Here’s what we know so far.

When and where were the cases first seen?​


On 21 November, the infectious disease monitoring network ProMED summarised a news report from China saying that hospitals in Beijing and elsewhere were “overwhelmed with sick children” with undiagnosed pneumonia. This has caused concern about a potential new pandemic and led the World Health Organization to request more information from China on 22 November.


What are the symptoms being seen in China?​


The first of two ProMED posts on the topic cites “a Beijing citizen” as saying fever is the main symptom they have seen in children, with no coughing, but many developing what are known as pulmonary nodules. Neither of the ProMED posts mentions any deaths.


What is a pulmonary nodule?​


It is a small lump in a lung, revealed by an X-ray or CT scan. They are found in a third of people whose lungs are scanned and are usually a result of ongoing or past infections. According to Paul Hunter at the University of East Anglia, UK, they are typically a sign of bacterial rather than viral infection and could be a result of people developing a bacterial infection after having the flu virus, for instance.


Is a bacterial infection less of a worry than a viral one?​


While bacterial infections can be just as dangerous as viral ones, when it comes to pandemic potential, they are regarded as less of a threat. This is because bacteria replicate and evolve much more slowly than viruses. They can usually also be treated with broad-spectrum antibiotics. In other words, it is usually easier to control outbreaks caused by bacterial infections.


 

How terrible! I hope the children get better soon. It's so sad when a child is sick, let alone hundreds of them! Those poor parents.
hmmm.. well there is a school of thought that says these children are getting sick because they only recently lifted the mandate for Masks in China and the children haven't built up a natural imminity to some illnesses... but tbh I am very wary of anything that comes out of China now as most people are.. and also their reasons for any outbreak...
 

According to the news yesterday, China was in Lockdown,
for too long and the children have no immunity against
any illnesses.

Mike.
 
According to the news yesterday, China was in Lockdown,
for too long and the children have no immunity against
any illnesses.

Mike.
that's what they're suggesting..I don't believe them... we were in lockdown for 2 years... our kids haven't become ill
 
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These are the worrying pictures of hospitals in China packed with children and their worried parents that are sparking alarm across the globe.

Multiple cities in the country have now been hit by a mystery pneumonia outbreak that is striking down children.

In scenes eerily reminiscent of the 2019 Covid outbreak, alerts from infectious disease monitoring systems were issued this week and World Health Organization (WHO) officials requested further information from their Chinese counterparts.

Now, Chinese officials have insisted no new pathogen is to blame for the outbreak in illness, instead pinning the wave of cases on a surge in standard seasonal bugs.

Experts say this was expected given the country is facing its first full winter out of lockdown with lowered immunity to common infections as a consequence.

While Beijing insists its healthcare system is coping with demand, pictures show crowded waiting rooms and swathes of people outside hospital, while local medics report waits of 24 hours in emergency departments and 700 in line to be seen.

Scientists today told MailOnline that health chiefs must 'keep an eye' on China's surveillance data to ensure that a novel pathogen isn't to blame.
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Pictured: Hospital waiting rooms packed in China amid mystery outbreak
 
Oh no. This is not good. I hope it is contained and antibiotics are effective.
I couldn't face another pandemic but this is very strange that children are mainly affected.
 
Taiwan is urging children, elderly and immunocompromised patients not to travel to mainland China amid an outbreak of a mystery pneumonia in the country.

Taiwan's health ministry has told its vulnerable populations 'not to travel to China unless necessary', it revealed in a statement Thursday.

China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi insisted hours before the new travel order that authorities have the situation 'under effective control'.

Scenes of hazmat suit-clad workers spraying disinfectant through schools and streets, and images of crowds in hospitals wearing masks in hospitals, have chilling similarities to the earliest days of Covid.

The World Health Organization says it has scene data showing China's outbreak is a result of common respiratory illnesses rather than a new pathogen.

Taiwan - which has been wary of its neighbor since the original 2003 SARS cover-up - is urging its people not to travel to mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau unless necessary.

It said that if travel to China was unavoidable, then people should get the flu and Covid vaccinations before traveling.

Chinese and WHO officials have insisted that the surge is being caused by a flu, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and mycoplasma pneumoniae, a bacterial infection that leads to pneumonia.

And yesterday the World Health Organization (WHO) requested more data from China on its outbreak of pneumonia in children.

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, a WHO epidemiologist, said the agency was 'following up with China' as hospitals across the country continue to be overwhelmed.

Face masks and social distancing are again being recommended in the secretive nation, in a chilling echo of the early days of Covid.

The country's pneumonia spike has been dubbed 'white lung syndrome' because of the way the lung damage shows up on scans.

Taiwan urges children and elderly not to travel to China amid outbreak
 

Mystery wave of pneumonia hits AMERICA:​


An 'extremely high' number of children are being diagnosed with pneumonia in Ohio — which is now the first US state to report an outbreak like the one in China.

Health officials in Warren County, 30 miles north of Cincinnati, said there have been 142 pediatric cases of the condition — dubbed 'white lung syndrome' — since August.

'Not only is this above the county average, it also meets the Ohio Department of Health definition of an outbreak,' the county's health department said Wednesday.

The spread of cases has raised fears that an American outbreak of the infection that has overwhelmed hospitals China could hit this winter. Several European countries are battling similar crises.

But a source at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that, nationally, 'nothing is out of the ordinary'.

An 'ongoing investigation' is underway in Ohio into what is triggering the wave of illness, but officials do not think it is a new respiratory disease — and instead blame a mixture of several common infections all hitting at once.

US state records child pneumonia outbreak
 
I know here we have a nasty 24 hr flu virus going around. Also when they first did away with the masks here everyone got sick.
 
that's what they're suggesting..I don't believe them... we were in lockdown for 2 years... our kids haven't become ill

But perhaps we haven't yet been hit with this flu variant?

This is scary and strange that mainly kids are affected.

Scary? Yes. Strange? Not so much. Children are more vulnerable, for obvious reasons. More children get the common cold, bronchitis, dental cavities. Until we get samples of the virus into the hands of scientists, we can't know what's going on. This is the real crime in China, they refuse to share vital information.
 
Denmark is currently being hit by a surge in the same type of pneumonia that has rocked China and sparked fears of a fresh pandemic.

Danish health chiefs say rates of mycoplasma pneumoniae, a bacterial infection for which some antibiotics are useless, has reached 'epidemic' levels.

Beijing has pointed to the same pathogen as being partly to blame for its 'mystery' wave of pneumonia — characterised by a dangerous inflammation of the lungs — in children.

In a chilling echo of the earliest days of Covid, face masks and social distancing are being recommended in the secretive nation. Hazmat suit-clad workers have been videoed spraying disinfectant through schools, hallways and outdoors.

Denmark's Statens Serum Institut (SSI) revealed rates have tripled over the past five weeks and warned more kids will be struck down this winter.

It comes just days after the Netherlands reported its own alarming spike in children battling pneumonia, with similar reports in Denmark's neighbour Sweden.

The spread of cases has raised fears that an European outbreak of the infection is spreading across the continent.

Mycoplasma pneumoniae normally causes a mild flu-like illness, sometimes called 'walking pneumonia'. Cases are most common in younger children.

Some antibiotics, such as penicillin, have no effect.

SSI senior researcher Hanne-Dorthe Emborg said the outbreak wasn't unusual and experts had been predicting one for some time in the wake of Covid.
Now Denmark battles surge in the pneumonia sparking fears in China
 
hmmm.. well there is a school of thought that says these children are getting sick because they only recently lifted the mandate for Masks in China and the children haven't built up a natural imminity to some illnesses... but tbh I am very wary of anything that comes out of China now as most people are.. and also their reasons for any outbreak...
I think Asian people were wearing masks long before covid. I visited Charlottetown, PEI once a decade ago and was amused to see an Asian tourist walking around the city on a beautiful, blue sky day and he was wearing a mask. They've probably gotten used to doing that because China has always had some really awful air quality.

I read an article once that said that as climate change is warming the north and as the tundra's are melting, more and more ancient virus's and such will be released to once again affect us. Combine that with peoples current reluctance to even get the usual vaccinations for the kids (measles, mumps, etc.) and we're maybe going to be looking at big problems. Calgary, Alberta just had a confirmed case of measles.
 
I think Asian people were wearing masks long before covid. I visited Charlottetown, PEI once a decade ago and was amused to see an Asian tourist walking around the city on a beautiful, blue sky day and he was wearing a mask. They've probably gotten used to doing that because China has always had some really awful air quality.
yes in places like Hong Kong, where pollution was ..is terrible... but not other places as far as I know ..but of course that doesn't account for this flu like pandemic affecting, Denmark.. America.. Netherlands,...Sweden etc...
 
yes in places like Hong Kong, where pollution was ..is terrible... but not other places as far as I know ..but of course that doesn't account for this flu like pandemic affecting, Denmark.. America.. Netherlands,...Sweden etc...
With your mention of those other countries, it does sound like this could be the beginning of a new problem for all of us to deal with. That's the one drawback to moving closer to our little grandson. Once he starts school, he'll be bringing every bug home! and that means I'll be catching at least half of them!☹️ My husband seems to get bypassed by these things even though I do all the cooking, but I get flattened. Not a strong immune system I guess.
 


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