Anyone have a lot of fatigue from Covid?

VintageBetter

VintageBetter

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If you do, does it bounce back after you've been well for a few days? I started reading about "Covid rebound". What a b&%#*&y disease this thing is.

Can also get reinfected. Oh joy. COVID-19 and Your Health
Then there's this, even after people use Paxlovid. I could not take that - tried and was allergic. One in Five Experience Rebound COVID After Antiviral Drug, New Study Shows
What to Know About COVID Rebound | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Covid rebound is different from Long Covid. Here is that described: Post-COVID Conditions

I wonder if the Fed is treating Covid like it's all done? Or are they funding research? Based on a quick scan, I guess they are a little. But every B-21 Stealth Bomber costs $700 million. I wonder if they are devoting the cost of one bomber to Covid research?

Thinking of becoming a hermit. Seems practical. I will be masking up a lot now.
 

Jules said:
My husband was given Paxlovid when he had Covid. He wasn’t too ill. A couple of weeks later he tested positive again. Not terribly ill but is having a hard time getting back to normal. He does have other issues so it may all be part of the problem.
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Did your doctor mention to you that your husband is twice as likely to get long covid? I was just reading about that and I think it said more than 7% of adults in Canada have it, so I'm sure it's at least that in the US. I hope your husband gets over his illness.
 
Not hearing about Covid cases among anybody I know personally, but there is currently a minor outbreak in a nursing home our church does a ministry with. None that routinely attend our nursing home service however.

But what I have seen this year is a very ugly cold going around that persists for 4 weeks or longer. I had a month long case of of it, as did my wife. A lady at church had it for over 6 weeks. And I did several Covid home tests, both coming back negative. My wife also tested negative. It seems that the colds occurring in the last two years have been much more severe. I wonder if there is any connection to Covid.
 
As I have heard from other sources, it is possible to get a Negative Covid test result and still actually have Covid. The home test is negative, but could I still have Covid? There might be a paywall for that article. Here is the first portion:

"Rapid home antigen tests look for pieces of viral proteins from a swab of your nose, and they are designed to identify whether you have an infectious level of the virus. But a negative test is not a guarantee you don’t have Covid.

It could be that your symptoms are an immune response signaling the arrival of Covid or another invader. The harder your immune system is working to tamp down the virus, particularly an immune system supercharged by vaccine antibodies, the more likely you are to get an early negative result on a rapid test, even if you’re infected.

“It may be that the virus in your body is having a tug of war with your immune system,” said Dr. Michael Mina, chief science officer for eMed, a company that helps rapid test users get treatment from home. “If you test negative and you have symptoms, don’t assume you’re negative. Assume that the virus has not had an opportunity to grow up yet. The symptoms might mean your immune system is just triggering a very early warning.' "

You can still get free Covid tests via the Post Office, up to 4: Free At-Home COVID-19 Tests

I have had, many years ago, a nasty cold that lasted up to 4 weeks. Those do exist. But I know this is not a cold. Those always start in my throat and sinuses.

I really want the gov't. to continue to take Covid seriously and not be fatalistic about it. You know, shrug our way into more sickness and disabled people. Example:
Question for public official: "What is your public policy stance toward beating the Covid virus?"
Response: "Oh, well, we shrug it off a lot. No biggie."

Example, in the past 10-20 years science found that taking zinc can help speed up recovery from the cold virus. They will most likely never cure the cold, but zinc has helped me and many others feel better faster when we catch a cold. We need more research of Covid. Less fatalism.
 
Teacher Terry said:
When I got Covid I didn’t want paxoloid because of the rebound issues.
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I was willing to try it. Took two doses. It made me feel like crap, but that is one of the side effects. It says in the paperwork that one of the side effects is possibly feeling worse. Then I had an allergic response, called the doctor's office, and they said discontinue it.

All the more reason why more research is needed.
 
VintageBetter said:
Thinking of becoming a hermit. Seems practical. I will be masking up a lot now.
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I was diagnosed with Covid Feb 6 and am now struggling with long-Covid, which has symptoms of its own. The fatigue is the main thing, but also stomach issues and brain fog. That has lifted for the most part, but the fatigue is ongoing. I work in the school system so am sitting out the rest of the month and will be a permanent mask wearer IF I go back. The schools are struggling with "flu" epidemic here--parents send their kids to school if they are not feverish and think the kids are not contagious. Covid can spread without a fever. The schools have implemented more e-Learning days, but parents complain because they cannot keep missing work. The new variants make vaccines useless since vaccinated people still get Covid.
 
Sarci said:
I was diagnosed with Covid Feb 6 and am now struggling with long-Covid, which has symptoms of its own. The fatigue is the main thing, but also stomach issues and brain fog. That has lifted for the most part, but the fatigue is ongoing. I work in the school system so am sitting out the rest of the month and will be a permanent mask wearer IF I go back. The schools are struggling with "flu" epidemic here--parents send their kids to school if they are not feverish and think the kids are not contagious. Covid can spread without a fever. The schools have implemented more e-Learning days, but parents complain because they cannot keep missing work. The new variants make vaccines useless since vaccinated people still get Covid.
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I don't think the vaccines are useless. Doctors keep saying they keep many people out of the hospital, and statistics seem to prove that.

But we cannot go back to E-learning for the kids. Better we should give every student space an excellent filtration system, encourage mask-wearing, and when the weather permits, teach outside.

But we cannot go back to remote learning for kids. It was so harmful for so many of them and very tough on parents working outside of the home.

Many teachers retired if they could because of what Covid did to teaching and schools. Again, a few creative ideas would have saved teachers from early retirement - school districts could have hired co-teachers for the older teachers who wanted them. Have two half-time teachers for a class rather than the traditional dumping of all the burdens on one person alone. The younger teacher who wanted FT work could have split her time between Ms. Smith and Mr. Jones so she'd get FT pay while the more vulnerable teachers could go to half-time work instead of retire.

Ah, but that would cost money. And outside-of-the-box thinking. And Silicone Valley has been telling SDs the kids just need more laptops and more apps! The apps will save the kids! So they won't hire more teachers - they will buy more laptops instead.

I wonder how many schools actually installed good filtration systems? I wonder if the Fed ever did an audit of that?
 
Sarci said:
I was diagnosed with Covid Feb 6 and am now struggling with long-Covid, which has symptoms of its own. The fatigue is the main thing, but also stomach issues and brain fog. That has lifted for the most part, but the fatigue is ongoing. I work in the school system so am sitting out the rest of the month and will be a permanent mask wearer IF I go back. The schools are struggling with "flu" epidemic here--parents send their kids to school if they are not feverish and think the kids are not contagious. Covid can spread without a fever. The schools have implemented more e-Learning days, but parents complain because they cannot keep missing work. The new variants make vaccines useless since vaccinated people still get Covid.
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I hope you feel better.
 
Debrah N. said:
Did your doctor mention to you that your husband is twice as likely to get long covid? I was just reading about that and I think it said more than 7% of adults in Canada have it, so I'm sure it's at least that in the US. I hope your husband gets over his illness.
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No, but it was very late in the day when he tested positive; fortunately the doctor was still in the office. With his history the Paxlovid was still a logical choice.
 
VintageBetter said:
I don't think the vaccines are useless. Doctors keep saying they keep many people out of the hospital, and statistics seem to prove that.

But we cannot go back to E-learning for the kids. Better we should give every student space an excellent filtration system, encourage mask-wearing, and when the weather permits, teach outside.

But we cannot go back to remote learning for kids. It was so harmful for so many of them and very tough on parents working outside of the home.

Many teachers retired if they could because of what Covid did to teaching and schools. Again, a few creative ideas would have saved teachers from early retirement - school districts could have hired co-teachers for the older teachers who wanted them. Have two half-time teachers for a class rather than the traditional dumping of all the burdens on one person alone. The younger teacher who wanted FT work could have split her time between Ms. Smith and Mr. Jones so she'd get FT pay while the more vulnerable teachers could go to half-time work instead of retire.

Ah, but that would cost money. And outside-of-the-box thinking. And Silicone Valley has been telling SDs the kids just need more laptops and more apps! The apps will save the kids! So they won't hire more teachers - they will buy more laptops instead.

I wonder how many schools actually installed good filtration systems? I wonder if the Fed ever did an audit of that?
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The teachers have access to subs for half days and many have assistants. If the germ is in the building, they will get it—classrooms, halls, lunchrooms, lounges. Classes change so germs are spread even more. Flu germs stay active for 48 hours on surfaces and Covid up to 4-6 days even on non-porous surfaces. The BoE doesn’t fund for cleaning. Janitors collect garbage once a day and sometimes sweep the floors. I have subbed across three counties and even in the affluential schools, this is the same. Janitors work the same shifts as the teachers, making it impossible for them to mop or sanitize. With active shooting rates, teaching outside is a hazard. It can be beat, but the teachers have to fund it and do the extra work.
 
FYI - random thing I have tried this past week and I feel better now: I started taking a zinc gluconate remedy designed for colds.

Here's the 10-second science I found about why zinc can help defeat a cold. (Ten-Second Science means I devoted an entire 10 seconds to looking this up online. ;) )

The Pros and Cons of Taking Zinc for a Cold
Can zinc zap a cold?
Could taking zinc reduce cold symptoms?

I have read that the Coronavirus and the common cold virus are related - like, Covid-19 is the very evil cousin of the common cold. (See the Abstract of that link.) So then I reasoned that if zinc helps defeat the annoying cold virus, perhaps zinc could also fight off its murderous evil cousin, Covid19? So what the heck, I'll take some zinc to support my immune system and see if it helps me feel better.

It took a few days but I am less fatigued. That is not evidence, of course. Maybe Covid is just being slowly defeated by my immune system as it is, right?

But if I ran a research university I would sure want to study zinc against Covid. And, yes, I will keep taking zinc every day, not in mega-doses, but just a gummy or lozenges.
 
VintageBetter said:
FYI - random thing I have tried this past week and I feel better now: I started taking a zinc gluconate remedy designed for colds.

Here's the 10-second science I found about why zinc can help defeat a cold. (Ten-Second Science means I devoted an entire 10 seconds to looking this up online. ;) )

The Pros and Cons of Taking Zinc for a Cold
Can zinc zap a cold?
Could taking zinc reduce cold symptoms?

I have read that the Coronavirus and the common cold virus are related - like, Covid-19 is the very evil cousin of the common cold. (See the Abstract of that link.) So then I reasoned that if zinc helps defeat the annoying cold virus, perhaps zinc could also fight off its murderous evil cousin, Covid19? So what the heck, I'll take some zinc to support my immune system and see if it helps me feel better.

It took a few days but I am less fatigued. That is not evidence, of course. Maybe Covid is just being slowly defeated by my immune system as it is, right?

But if I ran a research university I would sure want to study zinc against Covid. And, yes, I will keep taking zinc every day, not in mega-doses, but just a gummy or lozenges.
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I take Zinc everyday because it also helps age-related macular degeneration (eye thing) from getting worse. The ZzzQuil I was taking to help me sleep can cause AMD.
 
I had one light case of Covid — five days, with head/neck ache & fatigue. So I've got no experience with long-Covid fatigue. But I had another health issue, two years ago, that left me extremely fatigued for a while, and part of the situation was anemia (very low hemoglobin count). I successfully dealt with that.

Do any of you know if anemia is a factor in long-Covid fatigue?
 
I dont think there is any evidence of any connection between long covid and aneamia

However any patient coming in to the Dr with the common complaint of general fatigue would surely have basic blood tests done to ascertain or eliminate causes like low haemoglbin, B12, or D deficiency, thyroid etc
 
RadishRose said:
My son swears paxlovid saved him.
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So glad your son's treatment has been so good for him.

My husband and I haven't had it but we were really careful during the worst of it and are still pretty careful. Like avoiding crowds, washing hands when we come in from being out and about, staying out of crowded aisles at the supermarket, vaccinated. I can remember the last time I had a flu in 2017 and I felt so hideous so I'm determined to not come down with anything else. I'm old enough that now I worry more about getting sick then I used to.
 
RadishRose said:
My son swears paxlovid saved him.
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A couple I know both got Covid a month or so ago. Hers went undetected for a week. They caught his within the first 5 days and he was able to get Paxlovid. He bounced right back. She is still dealing with the side effects but making progress. They are both in their eighties and very active.
 
Some say covid side effect similar to other virus side effects and using terms like 'long covid' may be over stating it.

Time to stop using term ‘long Covid’ as symptoms no worse than those after flu, Queensland’s chief health officer says

I think things like or similar to chronic fatigue syndrome were found to be from flea/tick bites.

It all comes down to the immune system. Beef it up anyway you can. B vitamins daily would be a start. I'd get D and iron levels checked as well. Zinc and C help but the Bs help the metabolism a little more. Work on hydration because sometimes after being sick one loses taste, thirst and/or stomach size which can affect food(nutrient) and fluid intake. Dehydration symptoms can fatigue like symptoms because the body will dip into blood supply for fluid when dehydrated.
 
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