Where were you when you heard of the O.J. Simpson Verdict (first trial)?

VintageBetter

VintageBetter

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I was living in a little rental house with my kids, which I could have bought back then if my ex had not lied about his income. Was watching the afternoon local news because I knew the jury was deliberating, and the anchors and commentator(s) were very surprised the jury was already coming back with a verdict. I was stunned speechless and the anchors on the news were more shocked than I'd ever seen those two be, ever. They stayed cool under all kinds of pressure, but they could not hide behind poker faces for that story.

It still bothers me a lot that O.J. is up walking around, even on social media, while Nicole and her friend Ron lie cold in their graves. O.J. got so many years of freedom and fun while she lies dead over nothing. Dead because she dared to ask O.J. questions. Dead because she was trying to build a life in which he was not the center.
 

I don't remember where I was when OJ was sentenced. I did think "if the glove glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," was a winner, and I guessed it proved to be so. I really don't have many opinions or thoughts on OJ/Nicole. Why did she stay if he was so impossible? IDK. :unsure:
 
chic said:
I don't remember where I was when OJ was sentenced. I did think "if the glove glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," was a winner, and I guessed it proved to be so. I really don't have many opinions or thoughts on OJ/Nicole. Why did she stay if he was so impossible? IDK. :unsure:
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Short answer to your question: Constant confusion and trauma bonding, which in the old days was called Stockholm Syndrome.

Give the victim some credit please - Nicole did finally leave him. She was probably afraid he would kill her, or make her already hellish life more hell, if she left him. She predicted this in her journal and said this to at least one family member.

Long answer to your question: go get a Ph.D. Then you will really know all the many reasons why she stayed for so long.
Clinical Psychology Ph.D. with Major Area of Study in Trauma | Psychology Department
Center for Empowering Victims of Gender-based Violence - Fort Hays State University (FHSU)
Trauma Emphasis | Palo Alto University

It's rather stunning to me that she DEAD, as dead as dead can get, but you're still blaming her for his murderous rage. Do you want him to kill her again?
 

I don't remember exactly either. Though I must have been off that day because I think I watched it on TV. I think it was live but it could have been a replay. Another mystery they will never 100% solve but I think most have their opinions.
 
chic said:
Why did she stay if he was so impossible? IDK. :unsure:
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I've told my stepfather he should have left my mother right away. The abuse started immediately after they got married. I asked him if he ever talked to his family about what was happening. He said no. He had good family. Older siblings with grown kids and spare rooms. He had a good job. He could have left. But stayed with that abuser to the day she died.

I ask myself why I didn't go no contact with every one of them. I know I was a beaten down mess at 18. I'm over 60, I still process things. Abuse is terrible and complicated for it's victims.
 
I know I was alive when the verdict came over on the TV, but where I was ??????????
I was shocked by the verdict, but later, the interviews of some of the jurors told a different story. He was not found "innocent", he was acquitted. Some said the evidence was so shaky, while he probably did it, there was no proof he did it.
 
The Planted Glove

OJ obviously planted the glove right behind Kato's guest house to try and frame him while he went off to Chicago after murdering Nicole and Goldman.

It was so obvious what he tried to do in a panic, but nobody ever brought it up. And the blood trail goes from the crime scene...into his car...up his house stairs...and into his bedroom. But there are many...unbelievably...who still think he is innocent
 
I was at work. We all went into the large conference room and watched it on TV. There was a very loud gasp when the verdict was read.

Nicole and Ron’s families lodged a civil suit against Simpson. The court found Simpson guilty of wrongful death and ordered him to pay $33.5 million to the families. He is yet to pay most of that money and given that his pension can’t be used to pay the debt, it’s unlikely that he will ever settle that bill.

O.J. wasn’t as lucky when he stood before a criminal jury in 2007 on charges of armed robbery and kidnapping. The prosecution brought those charges against Simpson after he and a gang stole sports memorabilia at the Palace Station hotel at gunpoint.

He served 9 years in prison before his parole. The State of Florida threw him out. The state’s attorney general wrote a letter to the Florida Department of corrections stating that “Our state should not become a country club for this convicted criminal.” Simpson moved to Las Vegas.
 
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VintageBetter said:
Short answer to your question: Constant confusion and trauma bonding, which in the old days was called Stockholm Syndrome.

Give the victim some credit please - Nicole did finally leave him. She was probably afraid he would kill her, or make her already hellish life more hell, if she left him. She predicted this in her journal and said this to at least one family member.

Long answer to your question: go get a Ph.D. Then you will really know all the many reasons why she stayed for so long.
Clinical Psychology Ph.D. with Major Area of Study in Trauma | Psychology Department
Center for Empowering Victims of Gender-based Violence - Fort Hays State University (FHSU)
Trauma Emphasis | Palo Alto University

It's rather stunning to me that she DEAD, as dead as dead can get, but you're still blaming her for his murderous rage. Do you want him to kill her again?
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I won't take the bait. Peace.

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chic said:
Why did she stay if he was so impossible? IDK. :unsure:
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Most likely the same reason abused women remain in those situations now... fear, threats... horrible, horrible threats of what will happen if she tries to leave. Mental torture and abuse. I once helped with a public service announcement for TV that broke down the reasons... and what happens to more women than you might believe, if they *are* too terrified to leave. Sadly, many of them find out what happens and by then it's too late. :cry:
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I know I was alive when the verdict came over on the TV, but where I was ??????????
I was shocked by the verdict, but later, the interviews of some of the jurors told a different story. He was not found "innocent", he was acquitted. Some said the evidence was so shaky, while he probably did it, there was no proof he did it.
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I watched that series, what was it? The Run Of (or for) His Life? I watched each episode at least twice. If what was in that series is true, I think a lot of investigation mistakes were made. I don't remember exactly what some things were though.
 
I still don't understand why these women stay. I mean if they are terrified staying with a monster, what 's the difference being terrified but running away? I would take my chances on running away. And I don't remember where I was when the verdict came in. But I was also shocked.
 
LoveTulips said:
I still don't understand why these women stay. I mean if they are terrified staying with a monster, what 's the difference being terrified but running away? I would take my chances on running away. And I don't remember where I was when the verdict came in. But I was also shocked.
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The most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she is pregnant and when she is trying to leave the abuser. The threat of death is real. Plus from being abused their self esteem is low, they may have no money or place to go and have children they need to protect.
 
Teacher Terry said:
The most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she is pregnant and when she is trying to leave the abuser. The threat of death is real. Plus from being abused their self esteem is low, they may have no money or place to go and have children they need to protect.
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Yes... not to mention the threats of killing family members. It's not just in movies and books... I've spoken with people it happened to "If you ever dare to leave, I am going to kill your whole family starting with your mother." Direct quote that was... And if the abuse is bad enough to want to leave, the victim knows (or at least believes) that's exactly what he'd do. Adding a note here that while I say "he" there are men who are victims of domestic violence as well.
 
I don't want to start a fight. I really don't. But if you read about the DNA evidence of blood found everywhere O.J. went that night and early morning, it's quite convicting.

DNA evidence in the O. J. Simpson murder case - Wikipedia

I say this not to re-try the case, but because I hate it when people walk around in ignorance of facts. Facts, not some story a defense lawyer told, but facts.

The fact is, Ron Goldman's blood was found in O.J. Simpson's Bronco and on O.J. Simpson's blood-stained socks. The defense said the LAPD planted it but the fact is, the LAPD adored O.J.- saw him as a good, rich guy. The LAPD couldn't even find a way to prosecute him for beating up Nicole several times because they were so very biased on the side of O.J. since he was a football hero and she was "just another blonde bimbo" in L.A.
 
CallMeKate said:
Yes... not to mention the threats of killing family members. It's not just in movies and books... I've spoken with people it happened to "If you ever dare to leave, I am going to kill your whole family starting with your mother." Direct quote that was... And if the abuse is bad enough to want to leave, the victim knows (or at least believes) that's exactly what he'd do. Adding a note here that while I say "he" there are men who are victims of domestic violence as well.
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One of the most tragic things I read on a DV victim advocacy website was that after O.J. was acquitted, they were getting reports from women that their abusive partners were saying threats like, "I'll kill you and get away with it, just like O.J. did."

O.J. became a role model to some abusers. If they have enough money or are great liars, they know how to beat the rap now. He is their role model.
 
I watched the whole trial and was shocked at the verdict. There was never any one else who was suspected of the murders.

Johnnie Cochran was one of the best lawyers in the US of A. I think, if OJ had really put the glove on his whole hand, it would have fit him perfectly.
 
VintageBetter said:
I don't want to start a fight. I really don't. But if you read about the DNA evidence of blood found everywhere O.J. went that night and early morning, it's quite convicting.
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Not sure this is "fight material" because I can't recall anyone in all these years thinking he was innocent. (If someone said it in this thread, I missed it.) I never understood how it could happen... I was so sure the flimsy attempt at the "glove" farce would fail... like would a person planning to do a violent crime actually buy gloves for it that *fit???* "No! I'll buy them the wrong size and then drop one so they can't pin it on me!" I'll never forget the smug look on his face when he "showed the camera" that they "didn't fit." That whole circus has always been a huge embarrassment to the legal system.
 

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