School children being trained to use life-saving bleed control kits

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School pupils are being trained to use potentially life-saving bleed control kits. Training is being aimed at youths because they are among the most likely to be the first at the scene of an attack. The kits contain items such as military grade tourniquet, heavy duty bandages and a foil blanket. Apparently the same type of kit used by paramedics so that, a stab victim can be treated prior to the arrival of an ambulance crew.

I am sure we are all aware that, unfortunately, knife crime is more prevalent now than when we were young but, when I heard this on the radio this morning, I thought how sad it is that, so early in life, children are having to worry about such things, I cannot remember knife crime being a concern when I was at school.

Sadly, the UK is not the only country which is having to deal with problems such as this and I wonder how it is dealt with in other places?
 

I think first aid training is important regardless of the reason that prompts it. There's no reason elementary age children shouldn't be taught some basic emergency care, and high school age kids taught a more advanced response.

It doesn't need to be aimed specifically at knife or gun attacks. Heck there's home emergencies, playground injuries, car accidents, drug overdoses, an endless list where first aid training is important.
 

I think that is horrible. I don't suppose they have a school nurse on staff every day at UK schools, right? And I guess the kids are being trained in the event that all adults are killed?

Nice. Nice work politicians.
 
C50 said:
I think first aid training is important regardless of the reason that prompts it. There's no reason elementary age children shouldn't be taught some basic emergency care, and high school age kids taught a more advanced response.

It doesn't need to be aimed specifically at knife or gun attacks. Heck there's home emergencies, playground injuries, car accidents, drug overdoses, an endless list where first aid training is important.
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This. It's practical regardless of motivation. Practical skills including shop etc not being taught enough.

Also first aid should be a neutral enough skill subject that no one should be complaining and actually that's how it should be sold-a practical skill in an emergency. Might even peak a few student's interest to where they go into the medical field.
 
We were taught in high school gym class each year first aid/CPR in the late 70s/early 80s. I used it a few years later on my Dad who cut the hell out of himself in his workshop without giving it a second thought. That wasn't the only time over the years I've used it. What I learned in school gave me the inclination to learn more & keep up on those skills.

In each vehicle we have a kit that contains everything from band aids to quick-clot to trauma bandages to tourniquets for all kinds of events that happen in everyday life. Our house has a more extensive box. By no means does it mean that it's ONLY going to used in an assault. It's more likely to be used for a vehicle accident, weather related injuries, yard work injuries & even pets to name a few.

It's far from horrible to have life saving skills that you can save someone's elses, even your own, when the SHTF ... and no one know what that moment is going to be.
 
I'm not against First Aid and CPR taught in high school. And yeah, some middle schoolers will be mature enough for it. But IDK about teaching it starting in 6th grade.

I wonder if they have consulted any child psychologists at all before throwing this at the entire population of kids? I wonder if any psychologists were consulted as they designed the course?
 
VintageBetter said:
I'm not against First Aid and CPR taught in high school. And yeah, some middle schoolers will be mature enough for it. But IDK about teaching it starting in 6th grade.

I wonder if they have consulted any child psychologists at all before throwing this at the entire population of kids? I wonder if any psychologists were consulted as they designed the course?
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I understand your concerns @VintageBetter. It is a lot for an 11 year old to have to deal with. I don't know how the schools approach the subject and training with regard to the younger grades, hopefully it is just presented as a life lesson.
 
Here in the USA, in the 70’s, I don’t recall doing any of this. In fact, I don’t recall doing any of it in college either. I know I was trained in the 80’s at work. I really don’t think kids younger than high school age should be taught this across the board. There’s always those few bright kids that can handle this type of training before that, but not typically. They do need to be taught to dial 911 (or 999) and know their address, but the other stuff, that’s a bit much.

Just my opinion.
 
Bob4now said:
Here in the USA, in the 70’s, I don’t recall doing any of this. In fact, I don’t recall doing any of it in college either. I know I was trained in the 80’s at work. I really don’t think kids younger than high school age should be taught this across the board. There’s always those few bright kids that can handle this type of training before that, but not typically. They do need to be taught to dial 911 (or 999) and know their address, but the other stuff, that’s a bit much.

Just my opinion.
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Me too @Bob4now I did a first aid course at work.

Apparently incidences of stabbings involving school children are rising which is why schools are doing this. When I was at school, there were sometimes fights but, I cannot ever remember anyone using a weapon, let alone a knife.
 
OP did say the training is being aimed at youths - I take that to mean teenagers, not early school age children.

However like most things, start early and simple and build from there - so start with teaching children how to call for help and very simple first aid, building up from there
Nobody is expecting 5 year olds t o apply tourniquets to major haemorrhages.
 
While I think the training itself is a good idea, I don't know about having 6th graders feel responsible for rendering possibly life saving aid to fellow students or their teachers. What if that aid doesn't save the person? How will that child feel...guilty, inadequate? Something requiring them to administer the care in the first place would be traumatizing enough, IMO. Having someone's life in their little hands, then losing that person might haunt a child for the rest of his/her life.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
While I think the training itself is a good idea, I don't know about having 6th graders feel responsible for rendering possibly life saving aid to fellow students or their teachers. What if that aid doesn't save the person? How will that child feel...guilty, inadequate? Something requiring them to administer the care in the first place would be traumatizing enough, IMO. Having someone's life in their little hands, then losing that person might haunt a child for the rest of his/her life.
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Would it not be just as traumatizing to have an incident and a person needs help and you dont know what to do?

Oscash, I dont know about other countries - but here in Australia - yes they are.
 
January said:
Would it not be just as traumatizing to have an incident and a person needs help and you dont know what to do?

Oscash, I dont know about other countries - but here in Australia - yes they are.
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Good point. I'm sure such an incident would be traumatizing no matter how you slice it. I wish our children did not have to even worry about such things! 😞
 
And to think, when I was a kid in school, the biggest fear we had was that the Russians would be coming to A-bomb us! But not to worry…we had a plan! We practiced “duck and cover” drills, knowing that our sturdy American desks would protect us as we cowered under them when the A-bomb was dropped… 🙄

Schools were safe, open places readily accessible to anyone until the Columbine massacre occurred, then things changed almost overnight, and schools became locked and fortified. Kids practiced “active shooter” and lockdown drills. The Russians never came to bomb us, but school shooters are all too common and real.

I think that my generation had it better, really. As a student, I never had to be cross-trained as a combat medic…
 
Fyrefox said:
And to think, when I was a kid in school, the biggest fear we had was that the Russians would be coming to A-bomb us! But not to worry…we had a plan! We practiced “duck and cover” drills, knowing that our sturdy American desks would protect us as we cowered under them when the A-bomb was dropped… 🙄

Schools were safe, open places readily accessible to anyone until the Columbine massacre occurred, then things changed almost overnight, and schools became locked and fortified. Kids practiced “active shooter” and lockdown drills. The Russians never came to bomb us, but school shooters are all too common and real.

I think that my generation had it better, really. As a student, I never had to be cross-trained as a combat medic…
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"things changed almost overnight, and schools became locked and fortified." With all the school shootings that have taken place since Columbine, apparently our schools are still not locked and fortified enough! 😞
 
Fyrefox said:
And to think, when I was a kid in school, the biggest fear we had was that the Russians would be coming to A-bomb us! But not to worry…we had a plan! We practiced “duck and cover” drills, knowing that our sturdy American desks would protect us as we cowered under them when the A-bomb was dropped… 🙄

Schools were safe, open places readily accessible to anyone until the Columbine massacre occurred, then things changed almost overnight, and schools became locked and fortified. Kids practiced “active shooter” and lockdown drills. The Russians never came to bomb us, but school shooters are all too common and real.

I think that my generation had it better, really. As a student, I never had to be cross-trained as a combat medic…
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we were the same at school.... the people we were most afraid of were the teachers ...

We never had any kind of bomb drills that I've heard other people had.. why would we the war had been over 16 years before I even started infant school... No-one came into our schools trying to hurt us...in fact even during the Blitz in ww2 I don't believe even the Germans bombed a school... but and I'm going to say it because its the elephant in the room... the stabbings in our cities are majorly being carried out between Immigrant teens on each other...
 

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