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BTW, I hate Netanyahu and if I heard there were a ceasefire, I would be very glad. Hamas is the enemy. See how they would treat LBGTQ+ and Women. Ask yourselves that. No, you'd rather talk about Jews. That's the bee in your bonnet. Jews.
You and much of the world are ignoring the 70 years of abuse, oppression and murders that led up to October 7th. Homes bulldozed, midnight home invasions by the IDF, food and water deprivations in summer, newborns dying because their mother's were held up at checkpoints while they were in labour, children shot by snipers, journalists killed by snipers, people kicked out of their family homes so that immigrant Jews can move in, beatings and rapes of girls and women in IDF military prisons, worshippers kicked out of al Aqsa Mosque so Jordan Peterson can get a photo op.......all of these have been going on for decades BEFORE October 7th. And 'the world' wants to pretend that the trouble started on October 7th because of that horrible Hamas.

That's the bee in our bonnets. And that bee is inhabiting the bonnets of more and more Western Jews, including many holocaust survivors like Dr. Norman Finkelstein or the many holocaust survivor videos that I've got saved up, where those people are calling for an end to the genocidal efforts of Israel's horrible government. My question to you Pepper, is how does the world, how do you and others, find it so easy to disregard all of that? If it was happening to your community, would you accept it with the smile that seems to be expected of the Palestinian people?
 

I got the same notice but mine said that Hamas was controlling those drones.
Then you're getting notices from some other app because the Zeteo story has the title: Israel's Armed Quadcopters in Gaza Mark a Dangerous New Era in Drone Warfare.

It's written by Pulitzer Prize winner, Spencer Ackerman who is an American security journalist. And nowhere in that article does it say that Hamas is controlling those drones, specifying repeatedly that it is how Israeli warfare from the air is happening now.

And keep in mind, numerous of Israel's allegations have been debunked. The 40 beheaded babies, the babies hanging on wash lines, the baby in the oven, the mass rapes, the baby cut out of the pregnant woman, Israel also denied bombing that first hospital and then went on to bomb the rest openly. Israel has proven itself a master at propaganda and after killing 142 journalist who would have reported on what they were seeing, have banned journalists from entering now.

With respect, the source of notifications is critical to whether or not to believe what you are reading.

An interesting site to follow would be +972 Magazine. You'll find timely articles about what is currently going on throughout the region, all written by the staff of Israeli and Palestinian journalists. Their focus is in depth reporting, analysis and opinions from people who are living there and they are committed to quit, justice and freedom of information. Here's a link:

+972 Magazine

 
You can read about it all online:
History of Israel - Wikipedia. From this page:

Birth of Zionism

Main articles: History of Zionism and Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem
Between 1882 and 1903, approximately 35,000 Jews moved to Palestine, known as the First Aliyah.[197] In the Russian Empire, Jews faced growing persecution and legal restrictions. Half the world's Jews lived in the Russian Empire, where they were restricted to living in the Pale of Settlement. Severe pogroms in the early 1880s and legal repression led to 2 million Jews emigrating from the Russian Empire. 1.5 million went to the United States. Popular destinations were also Germany, France, England, Holland, Argentina and Palestine.[198][199]

Russian Jews established the Bilu and Hovevei Zion ("Lovers of Zion") movements with the aim of settling in Palestine. In 1878, Russian Jewish emigrants established the village of Petah Tikva ("The Beginning of Hope"), followed by Rishon LeZion ("First to Zion") in 1882. The existing Ashkenazi-Jewish communities were concentrated in the Four Holy Cities, extremely poor and relied on donations (halukka) from groups abroad, while the new settlements were small farming communities, but still relied on funding by the French Baron, Edmond James de Rothschild, who sought to establish profitable enterprises. Many early migrants could not find work and left, but despite the problems, more settlements arose and the community grew. After the Ottoman conquest of Yemen in 1881, a large number of Yemenite Jews also emigrated to Palestine, often driven by Messianism.[200]

In 1896 Theodor Herzl published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State), in which he asserted that the solution to growing antisemitism in Europe (the so-called "Jewish Question") was to establish a Jewish state. In 1897, the World Zionist Organization was founded and the First Zionist Congress proclaimed its aim "to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine secured under public law."[201] The Congress chose Hatikvah ("The Hope") as its anthem.

Between 1904 and 1914, around 40,000 Jews settled in the area now known as Israel (the Second Aliyah). In 1908 the World Zionist Organization set up the Palestine Bureau (also known as the "Eretz Israel Office") in Jaffa and began to adopt a systematic Jewish settlement policy.[202] In 1909 residents of Jaffa bought land outside the city walls and built the first entirely Hebrew-speaking town, Ahuzat Bayit (later renamed Tel Aviv).[203]

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Timeline: Timeline of Israeli history - Wikipedia
Another: Modern Israeli History: A Timeline | My Jewish Learning
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What is so sad and strange to me is that the Jewish people have a centuries-long history of being hated by so-called Christians and driven out of nation after nation because "they killed Christ". They are an indigenous tribe, indigenous to the lands now called Israel. They have been hated by some so-called Christians for centuries just like other so-called Christians called Native Americans "savages" and justified kidnapping their children and putting them in boarding schools. Don't erase our history: The Jewish people are indigenous to the land of Israel - MinnPost

It makes no sense to hate GROUPS of people unless they are all criminals, like organized crime groups. But not all Palestinians are Hamas and not all Jews are Netanyahu supporters.

The Jews are indigenous to the land in question. Their tribe and the other tribes have been fighting over the land for CENTURIES, much the way the Vikings fought over Northern Europe for hundreds of years.

WHY do you think all those White people in Europe are all White, yet they are proud Danes or Swedes or Norwegians or Brits and will compete madly against one another on soccer fields and at the Olympics? It's because their WISE leaders CHOSE, finally decided, that productivity and family life are better, superior, to war and fighting. They established boundaries for their respective lands, established laws to rule their nations, and CHOSE to work on being productive, making, growing and selling things, getting their children well-educated, and CHOSE to turn away from the old habit of tribal wars.

They chose a new way of life.

Unfortunately, we still have Putin and his oligarchs. They have not gotten the memo yet about how great peace can be, so Putin's still trying the old model of World Domination.

I dearly hope and pray that all the tribes in the region of Israel will get the memo and opt for TWO STATES. Peace is better than war. How many centuries does it take to learn that? The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind.

None of that justifys creating the State of Israel by carving it out of Palestine. That was nothing more than a blatant land grab by force.

And as for the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis since then, there is only one word needed to describe that. Aparthied.
 

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One of the principles in law is the idea of recompense or paying restitution to an injured party.

You don't think the murder of six million inncocent Jews deserved compensation from the International community? Especially when Israel has been the well-documented historical home of many Jewish ancestors? It is very well-documented by historians that it is their historic land too.

How much criminal evil is enough that you might believe a community deserves compensation? Should the Nazis have killed 6,000,200 Jews and that would be enough for you?

I do not understand DEMONIZING one party or the other. The demonizing only causes more conflict. Both groups have to share the land and if that means two states, then fine! Do it! But demonizing accomplishes nothing but war.
I believe that Germany did have to pay reparations after WW2.
From Wikipedia:
Despite the protests, the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks (around 714 million USD according to 1953–1955 conversion rates) over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress.

As to it being documented that it 'is their historic land' (speaking of the Jews), it is also the historic land of the Palestinian people and was the homeland of the Canaanites with whom both Jews and Palestinians have shared DNA. And I've heard it said (sorry can't find the link where I read/heard it) that if you did a DNA test on most Israeli's, you would find more Eastern European DNA than local Ashkenazi (?) DNA.

And there is purpose to the Israeli effort to oppress and 'demonize' the Palestinians. The hope is that doing so will cause them to 'leave' by whatever means possible so that Israel can have a Jewish homeland that is not encumbered by any other race. The words of their leaders over the many past decades point to that effort. Years ago I came across a collection of the words of those leaders here: Zionist Quotes: Herzl, Jabotinsky, Netanyahu, Weizmann, Sharon, Barak, Weitz, Ben-Gurion, Sharett, Dayan, Rabin, Shamir, Meir, Begin in case anyone is interested.

And you're right, that effort to divide and conquer only causes endless misery and war as we can see today.
 
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You can read about it all online:
History of Israel - Wikipedia. From this page:..................I dearly hope and pray that all the tribes in the region of Israel will get the memo and opt for TWO STATES. Peace is better than war. How many centuries does it take to learn that? The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
Great article and thank you for sharing it. And I heartily agree, they have to learn to get along with each other if either of them hope to live in peace.
 
Protesters on Columbia's campus have escalated from squatting and tresspassing to breaking & entering along with reports of holding a janitor hostage

Violent pro-terror rioters shouting ‘Intifada!’ smash their way into Columbia University academic building in latest campus chaos

Those protestors are now escalating into physical aggression. Instead B & E(breaking and entering) soon it will be bombs and explosives

Several days ago, I saw a clip of a student reporter asking a group of 10-15 protestors chanting 'intifada' what the word meant and no one knew. :rolleyes:
 
Several days ago, I saw a clip of a student reporter asking a group of 10-15 protestors chanting 'intifada' what the word meant and no one knew. :rolleyes:
They probably like the adrenaline rush from several people chanting at the same time and the feeling they are sticking it to the establishment like any teenage rebel would.

Although this is beyond throwing tp over a tree branch.
 
Where is another source to substantiate using drones this way? Why an audio to draw people out of tents when they could just shoot into the tents? This doesn't make much sense or is this Hamas propaganda? Where is the physical evidence?

The majority of the wounds from the battlefield are found in the head, neck & upper chest. Those are the body parts that are the most exposed & are aimed at during combat.
The Middle East Eye has reported it as has Al Jazeera and Snopes did a piece on it where they didn't dismiss it but said Israel has the capability so it isn't implausible. Especially considering that the International Criminal Court did find that Israel is behaving in a 'genocidal way'.

The actual originating story was written by a journalist named Maha Hussaini who's a winner of the Martin Adler Prize from the (prestigious Rory Peck Trust) for her outstanding. reporting for the Middle East Eye. She interviewed people in that refugee camp who told her what they heard. She also interviewed people who said after word spread that people began refusing to respond which precluded the continuation of the effort.

Not surprising however that no western journalists are reporting on it as they aren't allowed in any more. After killing 142 of them, Israel decided it was strategic to ban their presence.

I would suggest that in normal armed combat, aiming at the largest surface, the torso is more common than aiming at shoulders or heads. But for an armed drone shooting from above, it seems entirely plausible that wounds would be less likely t affect torso's.


https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/04/26/drones-crying-infants-gaza/

I'd also suggest that since they've been unearthing mass graves with some of the Palestinian victims showing signs of hands tied behind their backs and evidence of torture, the above is not far fetched at all. It's become pretty evident as the body count rises, that there is very little that is too horrible for Israel's IDF to do.
 
I noted some protester wearing one of those on her head with a tank top. Sorry girl, not proper attire. She just doesn't get it.
Universities today are not always the best think tanks. Fifty years ago I remember professors who advocated what I saw as off the wall view points. Students arrive on campus too often with impressionable minds that get led astray. That is made worse when there on non-student organizers that distort purpose with sound byte facts. I was taught at home, and I think my children were as well to THINK and evaluate what is in front of me not run off the cliff like a lemming. I noticed Vietnam war protestors who wore BDU's while burning their draft cards on campus.
 
The Middle East Eye has reported it as has Al Jazeera and Snopes did a piece on it where they didn't dismiss it but said Israel has the capability so it isn't implausible. Especially considering that the International Criminal Court did find that Israel is behaving in a 'genocidal way'.
Al Jazeera hasn't been known to be fair & balanced on issues involving conflicts in the Middle East. Their reporting on issues not involving the ME hasn't been bad because it doesn't affect them. As far as Snopes, it was neither confirmed or denied due to few reports & witnesses. However, they did say the claim is similar to common urban legends & rumors which includes one the IDF made against Hamas in 12/2023. Is this a case of Hamas using what they did then, using it as proproganda against Isreal now?

The actual originating story was written by a journalist named Maha Hussaini who's a winner of the Martin Adler Prize from the (prestigious Rory Peck Trust) for her outstanding. reporting for the Middle East Eye. She interviewed people in that refugee camp who told her what they heard. She also interviewed people who said after word spread that people began refusing to respond which precluded the continuation of the effort.

Not surprising however that no western journalists are reporting on it as they aren't allowed in any more. After killing 142 of them, Israel decided it was strategic to ban their presence.
The Middle East Eye is a news agency that hasn't been transparent about their ownership & is believed to be funded by Qatar. Hamas officials are living on Qatar. I'm wondering how fair & balanced they really are.

I'm not clear on "After killing 142 of them", who are you referring too? Western Journalists? As of April 30th, only 97 journalists of all nations have died per the Committe to Protect Journalists. Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war - Committee to Protect Journalists

I can't find a ban on western journalists. The only thing I found is that anyone covering the war is to be accompanied by military escorts. NBC & CNN verified that the military has the authority to authorize the release of any content/footage from Gaza. Both news agencies have consented to this.

I would suggest that in normal armed combat, aiming at the largest surface, the torso is more common than aiming at shoulders or heads. But for an armed drone shooting from above, it seems entirely plausible that wounds would be less likely t affect torso's.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/04/26/drones-crying-infants-gaza/

I'd also suggest that since they've been unearthing mass graves with some of the Palestinian victims showing signs of hands tied behind their backs and evidence of torture, the above is not far fetched at all. It's become pretty evident as the body count rises, that there is very little that is too horrible for Israel's IDF to do.
Their is nothing normal about the combat in Gaza. A soldier will aim for whatever is exposed & when the head, neck & shoulders come up from cover, that's the target. Anyone standing in the open as claimed in supposed drone attacks has an entire body exposed to be hit & can be any where.

Hamas cares nothing about anyone living in Gaza. They have an agenda & will use anyone to get to their goal. Sadly, they'll use their own people as they are now. So as far as who is buried in those graves & how they got there, I feel only Hamas knows what happened.

Hamas could stop everything if they turned the remaining hostages over & the bodies of those hostages who died in Hamas captivity. But they won't.
 
saw the news just now, reminded me of Jan 6 uprising....

The commonality is it's all being allowed. Same as hordes of people running into and clearing out high end stores of merchandise, people pouring over the borders without following proper procedures for asylum and immigration. Some someones with lots of money and media pull want chaos.
 
Many religious bodies are of the biblical formed opinion that a final warfare on this globe will take place with the arrival of the beast 666 - in Jerusalem - perhaps this is a forerunner of events?? I also agree that history does show that the land that Israel now has was in fact stolen by many peoples particularly the Brits and despite Arabs living on it was given away to Israel after severe heckling and whilst still being occupied by the Palestinians?
 
Many religious bodies are of the biblical formed opinion that a final warfare on this globe will take place with the arrival of the beast 666 - in Jerusalem - perhaps this is a forerunner of events?? I also agree that history does show that the land that Israel now has was in fact stolen by many peoples particularly the Brits and despite Arabs living on it was given away to Israel after severe heckling and whilst still being occupied by the Palestinians?

There were no 'Palestinians' at the formation of the modern state of Israel. There was an area of land that various occupiers called the region of Palestine; it was an administrative name in the southern Levant, not a nation or even the place of a cohesive people group.
 
the truth is this land was purloined by the brits who then decided to give it to a countryless group called the Jews after being assaulted by their religious zealots the zionists - who often attacked hotels and killed anyone to make their point. Britain stole the land then owned the land then gave it away - the instigator of all the issues is Britain.
 
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None of that justifys creating the State of Israel by carving it out of Palestine. That was nothing more than a blatant land grab by force.

And as for the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis since then, there is only one word needed to describe that. Aparthied.
I don't follow the issue closely enough to argue with you. I do know that both Palestians and Jews have an historical claim to Judea and Israel. Therefore, since they both call it home, would it not be best for all involved to learn how to create two states?

From what I have heard, Israel and other negotiators have tried, repeatedly, to offer the Palestinians deals. The Palestinians refuse a land-sharing deal because they want it ALL. And, if the Palestinians are Hamas, they want ALL the land and to see every last Israeli wiped off the face of the Earth.

HOW do you propose Israel cut a deal with a terrorist group that will never be satisfied until the nation of Israel is destroyed?
 
Not an expert either but I believe Christians and Jews lived in now Arab/Muslim countries at one time. And they got along relatively well. What changed I'm not sure. But change it did. Let the Jews have this small land.
 
they need to learn to live together in some way - both tribes eminate way back from the same father Abraham and they both worship him at his tomb
 
The mess on the Columbia campus was an embarrassment. i would not be surprised to see a large drop in donated funds and enrollment. What a joke!
 


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