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Think of the police officer shot when making a routine traffic stop. A police officer responding to a domestic dispute can easily be caught between the culprit and victim. Perhaps one of the worst situations is responding to a report of "officer down". Even with all the uncertainty of the most routine events in a law officer's day they move toward the unseen danger. That's why it sickens me when I hear 'defund police' and its hard to believe gun laws keep people safe. Those same persons who demean law enforcement are the first ones to dial 911 when their pizza doesn't taste right.
 

I never understood the cries to "defund the police" either. If anything it should be the opposite. There should be an increase in funding to protect all citizens
Not an increase in general funding necessarliy but more targeted funding towards training of all kinds, especially dealing with people who have mental disorders. And what about hiring standards and remuneration? Recruits should be reasonably well educated individuals, not just some meathead who's spent most of his life at the gym.

When it comes to crisis management, officers must have above average critical thinking skills in order to avoid deadly mistakes and mistakes that end up showing the police in a very bad public light. In order to think before you act, you must have a functioning brain! You'll not be able to recruit people like that unless the pay & benefits are attractive.
 
MrPants said:
I never understood the cries to "defund the police" either. If anything it should be the opposite. There should be an increase in funding to protect all citizens
Not an increase in general funding necessarliy but more targeted funding towards training of all kinds, especially dealing with people who have mental disorders. And what about hiring standards and remuneration? Recruits should be reasonably well educated individuals, not just some meathead who's spent most of his life at the gym.

When it comes to crisis management, officers must have above average critical thinking skills in order to avoid deadly mistakes and mistakes that end up showing the police in a very bad public light. In order to think before you act, you must have a functioning brain! You'll not be able to recruit people like that unless the pay & benefits are attractive.
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I certainly agree. The training and experience is the key, and for that you can't defund. I recently heard that the Nashville police department was now under manned by more than 30%. Add to that, the fact that police forces are being forced to lower their recruiting standards to try to fill vacancies. I guess if I was a criminal I might see it differently.
 

TennVet said:
I certainly agree. The training and experience is the key, and for that you can't defund. I recently heard that the Nashville police department was now under manned by more than 30%. Add to that, the fact that police forces are being forced to lower their recruiting standards to try to fill vacancies. I guess if I was a criminal I might see it differently.
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That right there is troubling!!
 
You're absolutely right TennVet. I've heard that domestic disputes can be some of the most dangerous calls. It seems that these days any call can wind up being a dangerous call ! I have no use for the bad cops who abuse their power and injure or even kill others. I've discussed that here without reservation. But I know there are plenty of good cops out here and it is so very sad to see the news of officers being killed. I always assume, unless it is reported otherwise, that the downed officers were among the good ones.

At one time I had 5 officers in my family. The one who had 2 sons on the force became a detective, then I believe one of his sons eventually became a detective too.
 
TennVet said:
Think of the police officer shot when making a routine traffic stop. A police officer responding to a domestic dispute can easily be caught between the culprit and victim. Perhaps one of the worst situations is responding to a report of "officer down". Even with all the uncertainty of the most routine events in a law officer's day they move toward the unseen danger. That's why it sickens me when I hear 'defund police' and its hard to believe gun laws keep people safe. Those same persons who demean law enforcement are the first ones to dial 911 when their pizza doesn't taste right.
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I used to worry about getting knocked off while speaking with the driver that I just pulled over. On the Pennsylvania Turnpike very few vehicles go less that 80 mph. The law states that, if drivers are able, they must move over into the passing lane to allow
for more space between the Trooper and the passing vehicle.

Some of those huge 18-wheelies that are moving at 80 mph can create an almost suction cup to pull you down the road. However, I will say that most truckers have been the most courteous and friendly drivers on the roads. Years back,

Years over, I was pulled over with my hood up because my car (I had a car at that time) was going along with no issues and all of a sudden, it just shut down and wouldn’t restart, so I called Maintenance and they said someone would be there shortly. Not a minute later a trucker pulled over, got out of his truck, walked back to me and asked what was the problem. I told him and he said without hesitation. “You have a bad starter.” I thought that didn’t sound right, but I told him help was on the way. He told me that he would hang around until my help arrived. I thought that was pretty darn nice of him.

When the maintenance man showed up, he checked a few things and then he used his voltage meter and checked out the ignition system and told me he thought my starter was causing the issue. I told him that doesn’t sound right. The car was running. He said let’s tow it back to the garage and after he put the car on the analyzer, he again said he thought it was the starter, so he got a new starter and I was back on the road. I thought I knew a lot about cars, but I didn’t know that.
 
If you're a cop, and you pull someone over for a traffic stop, to me, that takes guts. You're all alone, walking into the unknown. And when there's a life or death situation, who do you send in?-the cops. That said about police valor and bravery, are there instances of manufactured evidence, racism, bias, and corruption? Yes. Cops are neither all gods, nor all sinners; they are human. They need extensive training, intense supervision, and a generous living wage.
 
Sometimes officers just have to deal with the absurd. I saw a news article recently where an illegal immigrant who couldn't speak English tried to rob a bank using the language translator app on his smartphone. He tried to show the teller the words on the smartphone that he wanted all the money. She was confused and didn't give him any money but did press the emergency button on her counter and the police arrested him.
 
911 said:
I used to worry about getting knocked off while speaking with the driver that I just pulled over. On the Pennsylvania Turnpike very few vehicles go less that 80 mph. The law states that, if drivers are able, they must move over into the passing lane to allow
for more space between the Trooper and the passing vehicle.

Some of those huge 18-wheelies that are moving at 80 mph can create an almost suction cup to pull you down the road. However, I will say that most truckers have been the most courteous and friendly drivers on the roads. Years back,

Years over, I was pulled over with my hood up because my car (I had a car at that time) was going along with no issues and all of a sudden, it just shut down and wouldn’t restart, so I called Maintenance and they said someone would be there shortly. Not a minute later a trucker pulled over, got out of his truck, walked back to me and asked what was the problem. I told him and he said without hesitation. “You have a bad starter.” I thought that didn’t sound right, but I told him help was on the way. He told me that he would hang around until my help arrived. I thought that was pretty darn nice of him.

When the maintenance man showed up, he checked a few things and then he used his voltage meter and checked out the ignition system and told me he thought my starter was causing the issue. I told him that doesn’t sound right. The car was running. He said let’s tow it back to the garage and after he put the car on the analyzer, he again said he thought it was the starter, so he got a new starter and I was back on the road. I thought I knew a lot about cars, but I didn’t know that.
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My son is that kind of trucker, I'm proud to say. I'm glad you stayed safe while you were on duty 911.
 

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