Obama and communist party in US

Obama is part of the same "Club" that most of our politicians belong to. They are All ruled by those with the "Big Bucks" that finance their campaigns. They all "talk" a good story...especially as election time nears...but then, once in office, they bend to the wishes of their wealthy "Masters".
 

BobF said:
My post was intended to speak of US politics and our current President. Seems some felt I was attacking or pointing to their country. Not intended at all. Also some felt it was poor to point to Obama as he is so late in his 'successful' terms. It does not matter as what I was intending was to widen the knowledge of our communist party and how happy they are with the way Obama has been doing so many things they, CPUSA, wants things to be done.

Obama is definitely a far far left socialist. Pretty obvious the way he works and also pretty obvious is the way he has damaged the US economy with his failures to balance the budget even once in his 6.5 years so far. Obama's adding of 8.5 trillion additional debt, so far, will be a major problem for many years to come.

Some of Obama's non Congressional happenings will be challenged as soon as he leaves, and rightfully so. One big effort that has some good ideas also has some rather scary ideas and will be challenged. That will be the medical system. Another area needing challenge is the 'green' ideas like solar panels and wind machines. Who is paying for all this effort that allows the companies to offer free installations of the solar panels. Big bucks behind all that 'free' stuff. Question on private money or taxes going wild. Not all the Obama things will survive any new administration, Dem or Rep, when trying to put money to where it would do the best job and get our budgets balanced once again.

Surprise in a way about how some took my post as threatening Obama. He has done just about as much as he can, his term is essentially over. His health care program will remain his big thing. Still some tweaking and explaining till the public really knows how it works, is working correctly, and will remain in place. Lots of information was never publicized and Obama did some tweaking as time went by. It still needs a good review and fixing. My success in the Obama care program. I pay more now and really don't have a clue as to what should be paid, charges paid, just several pages of paper each month that tells me what I have received and any owed.

Doctors getting $7 for a visit? Not so. I would like to know more about how much charged, how much medical services got paid, how much I must pay to close that charge. Open and honest statements is what I prefer,

So much for now. May have more later.
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Can you say convoluted?

convoluted
 
Only as convoluted as Obama's days in office. He has avoided the Congress as much as he could and just had his special agencies do as he wished. That is why our government has not had to explain anything to the Congress or public. When he is gone, maybe then we will return to an honest US government that works with the Congress and the people get to know where all our money has gone, and why.
 

It's amazing how the Obama Derangement Syndrome can, seemingly, destroy common sense. So much garbage by the original poster in that top post and in later posts. The two things that stand out...

The poster suggests that the POTUS has read communist publications and personally knows some members of the U.S. Communist Party. In answer to that, I would not want a President of the United States to not be familiar with, well read on, and having an idea of the leaders of the Communist Party. To close one's eyes and try to make believe they don't exist would be neglect in a President's duties. But, just as with everything from 'birthers' to those suggesting he's a Muslim... those who hate the President will find fault.

A later post by the same person suggests "his health care program will remain his one big thing". They quickly overlook how our economy was in the tank as a fault of our last President. That economy, though slow to recover, has. Housing starts are on the rise. Employment is much better than in January 2009. They quickly overlook how world-wide crisis like Ebola have been met and conquered. Even though the Party that will forsake the Nation in order to not see one win by this President will fight to detract the Iran Agreement, if that Agreement stands it will be one of the high points of history. That Agreement will be as large as previous President's agreements with the USSR, with Red China, with North Korea, etc.

It still mystifies me why those who constantly and consistently seek means and lies to take down this President, even if it means taking down the United States of America, would refer to themselves as American. Instead of spending our time attempting to take down the POTUS, we should be spending our efforts to champion the positives and work hard to overcome the speed-bumps.
 
Grumpy Ol' Man said:
It's amazing how the Obama Derangement Syndrome can, seemingly, destroy common sense. So much garbage by the original poster in that top post and in later posts. The two things that stand out...

The poster suggests that the POTUS has read communist publications and personally knows some members of the U.S. Communist Party. In answer to that, I would not want a President of the United States to not be familiar with, well read on, and having an idea of the leaders of the Communist Party. To close one's eyes and try to make believe they don't exist would be neglect in a President's duties. But, just as with everything from 'birthers' to those suggesting he's a Muslim... those who hate the President will find fault.

A later post by the same person suggests "his health care program will remain his one big thing". They quickly overlook how our economy was in the tank as a fault of our last President. That economy, though slow to recover, has. Housing starts are on the rise. Employment is much better than in January 2009. They quickly overlook how world-wide crisis like Ebola have been met and conquered. Even though the Party that will forsake the Nation in order to not see one win by this President will fight to detract the Iran Agreement, if that Agreement stands it will be one of the high points of history. That Agreement will be as large as previous President's agreements with the USSR, with Red China, with North Korea, etc.

It still mystifies me why those who constantly and consistently seek means and lies to take down this President, even if it means taking down the United States of America, would refer to themselves as American. Instead of spending our time attempting to take down the POTUS, we should be spending our efforts to champion the positives and work hard to overcome the speed-bumps.
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Place the blame on me? For what? I only posted the facts as the Communist Party United States America posted. I said Obama never called himself to be a communist and I did not say that of him either. Your entire post is wrong as I see it. No reason for me to make lies as I am not about to take down this President. He has done enough already to give folks big concerns about his presidency. His popular vote is below 50%. Even in the elections he never showed big at all. He played electorate states in order to get elected.

I did not say anything about the President but did comment on what the Communist party said. That he grew up in Hawaii with communist friends and that he later moved to Chicago to join in with some of his communist friends. Not sure you even read the items I had posted. Your clarity is pretty ragged.

A later post by the same person suggests "his health care program will remain his one big thing". They quickly overlook how our economy was in the tank as a fault of our last President. That economy, though slow to recover, has.

Our economy was having problems, but Obama has not fixed it at all. Our national debt back then was only 7.5 trillion until the last two years of Bush when the Democrats took over the Congess, then the national debt zoomed up to over 10 trillion. Just some facts, no lies. Now with Obama the national debt has grown to 18.5 trillion so far and still climbing. Obama has added over 8 trillion to our national debt. A fact, not a lie. We will all be trying to pay that down over the next many years as we can not exist like this. We are not intended to live in a far far left socialist way of living in the US. We should be working to maintain things on a paid for basis. Pretty hard for some folks to do for sure.

Iran agreement? Why support or deny it. We have not had any real information about it yet. Just some more news type of comments, both for and against. Anyone seen a print out of the contents and agreements? Highest point in history? Or a total disaster? Only time will tell. In the mean time I hope we make sure the Iranians will not just pull another twist as they have done to the US more than once over many years now. Very good reasons to not trust those folks at all.

Ebola? My my, I guess it was not the job of the medical folks. Was the US the only country involved with the Ebola fight? I did not even know it had been declared a dead issue these days.

Enough is enough. Let Obama finish his term. We have a lot of work to complete after he is gone.
 
History will document the accomplishments of this Administration... not the constant and consistent bashing, name calling, conspiracies, etc. The accomplishment will live on. The hate and discontent will be turned to the next person Faux News tells their minions to despise. Those same documentations of facts will also tell of a President who contrived a war which cost thousands of American lives. That same President will be remembered as one taking us into a recession nearly equaling the Great Depression. That is, unless the same corporations who are allowed to purchase politicians since the Citizens United decision are not those authoring history books.
 
Grumpy Ol' Man said:
History will document the accomplishments of this Administration... not the constant and consistent bashing, name calling, conspiracies, etc. The accomplishment will live on. The hate and discontent will be turned to the next person Faux News tells their minions to despise. Those same documentations of facts will also tell of a President who contrived a war which cost thousands of American lives. That same President will be remembered as one taking us into a recession nearly equaling the Great Depression. That is, unless the same corporations who are allowed to purchase politicians since the Citizens United decision are not those authoring history books.
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It does not appear that you read what I posted a few days back. Bush did not create the second Iraq war as you claim. One of the big pushers was a English General Sir Mike Jackson. Bush was part of the pushing group but so were several other countries.

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sir Mike says he satisfied himself on the legality of invading Iraq by careful study of the relevant UN Security Council resolutions and concluded that action was "legitimate under international law without a 'second' resolution.


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For some, facts just do not have any truth. English Gen Sir Mike Jackson was the lead in this pact to attack Iran.

Much of what you folks think were lies does not have anything to do with this decision to do a second attack on Iran. That group of countries that decided to end Saddam's attacks on his people in Iraq did not consider such to be lies at all. The UN inspectors did not consider those stories to be lies. They were still trying to find proofs when this decision was made to remove Saddam.

Ending Saddam's rule brought new hope for the thousands that he was jailing, torturing, killing, every year. A very worthy cause.
 
BobF said:
For some, facts just do not have any truth. English Gen Sir Mike Jackson was the lead in this pact to attack Iran.

Much of what you folks think were lies does not have anything to do with this decision to do a second attack on Iran. That group of countries that decided to end Saddam's attacks on his people in Iraq did not consider such to be lies at all. The UN inspectors did not consider those stories to be lies. They were still trying to find proofs when this decision was made to remove Saddam.

Ending Saddam's rule brought new hope for the thousands that he was jailing, torturing, killing, every year. A very worthy cause.
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There is no doubt that Sadaam Hussein was a despot, and ruled accordingly. However, events since his demise have pretty much shown that sometimes the "Cure" is worse than the "Illness". He maintained some sort of order among the Muslim Radicals in his midst...generally by killing them. Now, these Radicals have gained power, and are making a total mess of Iraq, and Syria. Getting rid of Sadaam laid the foundation for the rise of ISIS...which threatens the entire region...and is causing increasing numbers of problems for the authorities all over Europe, and even here.

If is often wise for people to be careful about what they wish for....they may Just Get It.
 
This current situation is the result of the invading countries to carry on for many years as we did in Europe and Japan after the end of WWII. We stayed, we protected, we blocked bad efforts, and over time we had new friends and trusting folks. Far too much of the sit at home and do nothing stuff going on nowadays. We do build our own problems.

Now I would like to know how my original post has turned into such a mess about Iraq? I started out about how the Communist Party of the US was so happy with the path Obama has taken. Now after several attempts to change the subject we are discussing all this crap about how Bush lied about Iran. A total lie to begin with as the war was organized and decided by several nations with Gen Sir Mike Jackson making the justification to proceed with out the UN's additional authorizations.

Just what in the world was wrong with the CPUSA's comments about Obama. Why are so many of you afraid to discuss things and instead try to totally change the subject into some other far left lies about our government? Why not stick with the general topic or just move on as you should have. No need to argue with poor old Bob as some of you think it is. Stay on topic or move on. Far better tactic than trying to change the subject with lots of lies and distortions. No wonder so many not far enough left folks have stopped posting here. I am still here and you will hear from me even over all the lies being posted.
 
mitchezz said:
Your entire post is based on the assumption that Right is right.........it's not....it's just a political stance.
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It is a bit of a "political stance" opposite that of a extreme left leaning Democrat. It's not about what is right or wrong. All comments or criticism are not politically bias. Big government is much closer to communism than a smaller conservative government simply because of the amount of control/influence one has over the economy alone.
 
WhatInThe said:
It is a bit of a "political stance" opposite that of a extreme left leaning Democrat. It's not about what is right or wrong. All comments or criticism are not politically bias. Big government is much closer to communism than a smaller conservative government simply because of the amount of control/influence one has over the economy alone.
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No... big government is closer to SOCIALISM.... there is a huge difference.
 
QuickSilver said:
No... big government is closer to SOCIALISM.... there is a huge difference.
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...the economy alone

Communism is usually associated with the economics and socialism with the policy. Compared to conservative smaller spending government big government is closer to communism from a spending/money standpoint. This is why communism and socialism frequently go hand and hand. Small government spends frugally relying on a free market big government requires big money which comes from taxes and price & wage controls high/low which essentially controls the economy. One could say taxes are a basically around about way of taking private sector a communist government would simply take. Communism is basically economic control and socialism is government control of policy, policy should it includes the services it provides or mandates.
 
WhatInThe, you are going right along with the way I feel about socialism and communism. Pretty much identical except in communism the government has absolute control over every thing. Socialism still has some control over the government. All else seems to be the same.
 
BobF said:
WhatInThe, you are going right along with the way I feel about socialism and communism. Pretty much identical except in communism the government has absolute control over every thing. Socialism still has some control over the government. All else seems to be the same.
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Communism and socialism need each other or are symbiotic because of the amount of control involved. Once one is in place even in theory the second isn't far behind or is very easy to install. The leap is not that far.
 
Ok... lesson 101... Socialism promotes social safety nets for all the citizens.. public education, universal healthcare, as well as repair and maintenance of the "commons" which promote the common good. But it allows for individual wealth and advancement. It allows for social classes. A progressive income tax system is used to pay for the safety nets.. Those making a lot of money pay more taxes.. but STILL have more than those who are helped by the taxes.

Communism... states" From each according to his ability, to each according to his need .". which means... no social classes... everyone has the same.. A very simplistic example.. YOU are very smart and energetic. YOU earn $100. I am lazy... I earn $50.. the government gives me $25 of your $100 so we both have $75. THAT is communism.. It is very different from socialism indeed.
 

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