Sometimes I Understand Young People

The disparagement, demonization, and disrespect of working age men demonstrated above goes a long way toward explaining their drop in labor force participation. We have serious cultural malaise and it is going to bite us very hard as it gets worse.
 

Have you heard of Scott Galloway, @dilettante? He is a professor with a YouTube channel. Here is one you might find interesting: "Why Young Men Are in Decline." He is extremely intelligent with many thought provoking ideas on the Young, Men in particular.
 
Jules said:
Many are allowed to live at home, nice home cooked meals and if they work part time, they have enough spending money to do things. There’s one grandson like this. His friends are now making good money in the trades and he’s finally thinking of going back to school. There was no need to work much.
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When my sons were 15 and 17 and we were living in a small, backward town in the Calif foothills, I got a juicy job not far from Sacramento (where I live now). They didn't want to move, and I decided not to force them. I'd moved my kids from state to state and town to town practically all their lives, uprooting them from their friends and schools and their rooms and all that while I took better and better paying jobs. So, when the boys said they were done, I let them stay up there.

I rented a cheap apartment for me and my daughter (13), and paid the rent on the "boys'" house. Every 2 weeks I sent them cash, and they did their own shopping, and all their own cooking and laundry and cleaning. I drove up every other weekend to help them get the yardwork done, help Grant work on his car, make sure they were keeping up in school, and take them out for pizza or an overnight camping trip, and just hang out with them.

I thought things were working out really well.

I didn't know Liam was drinking a pint of whiskey almost every day, Grant was getting into fist fights on a regular basis, and they both had girls over on weekends I wasn't there. Meanwhile, down where me and Maud lived, she entered this gawdawful emo phase; cut off her gorgeous blond hair and dyed it black, wore black, decorated her room in black, wore black lipstick and a sh*t-ton of eye make-up, and b*tched about e v e r y thing.

I look back at this as the biggest mistake I ever made. The kids say no. I mean, they say that now. They say they grew, basically. Liam doesn't drink at all. In fact, he hasn't had a drink since he was 16. The boys have really good careers and my daughter has a successful business....and all her hair back.

I forget where I was going with this.
 
Pepper said:
They'd change their minds quick if their parents kicked their asses out of the house. I wouldn't tolerate a son doing nothing. Never, never in a million years. Why? 'Cause it's bad for them.
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From what the kids tell me it's more like young men feel like there's nothing out there for them; no future because there are no full-time jobs, no dating because girls are looking for 666 men - 6ft tall, 6-pack abs, 6 figure income - and no social life outside of online gaming and social media. They feel displaced, useless, and hopeless.
 
dilettante said:
The disparagement, demonization, and disrespect of working age men demonstrated above goes a long way toward explaining their drop in labor force participation. We have serious cultural malaise and it is going to bite us very hard as it gets worse.
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I don't think it'll get worse. I mean, it might for a while, but the ladies are going to figure out pretty quick that, by empowerment, their feminist predecessors did not mean power over everyone, especially before you even know who you are, and that by equal they literally meant equal.
 
Murrmurr said:
I don't think it'll get worse. I mean, it might for a while, but the ladies are going to figure out pretty quick that, by empowerment, their feminist predecessors did not mean power over everyone, especially before you even know who you are, and that by equal they literally meant equal.
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Didn't expect such nonsense from you, Frank. Your 6/6/6 analogy is absurd. How could you know what women want? It couldn't have changed that much.

Also, I have found, in my experience with raising young men, including my nephews, that if you encourage a young person since they are babies very rarely will you be let down. Constant, never let up instilling a joyous outlook on a fulfilling future. Never.
 
Pepper said:
Didn't expect such nonsense from you, Frank. Your 6/6/6 analogy is absurd. How could you know what women want? It couldn't have changed that much.

Also, I have found, in my experience with raising young men, including my nephews, that if you encourage a young person since they are babies very rarely will you be let down. Constant, never let up instilling a joyous outlook on a fulfilling future. Never.
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From the time they were born I never forgot my kids would eventually be adults. I made people, not babies. I prepared them for adulthood, not perpetual childhood. We had a lot of fun, and they were all totally adorable kids and I treasure their baby and toddler years, but that was learning time. A few things none of my kids have ever done is use illegal drugs, steal, and treat others unkindly. They're good, hard working people, and they're very good parents. Naturally there were grownups around who influenced their lives, but I raised them. And I made mistakes, but apparently, I mostly got it right.

The 666 thing IS a thing. Young women talk about it a lot. It's their yardstick when they're looking for a lasting relationship, especially the last 6 ....6-figure income. Their favorite quote is "I will not settle", and by that they mean settle for less, and by less they mean an average man.
 
Pepper said:
Also, I have found, in my experience with raising young men, including my nephews, that if you encourage a young person since they are babies very rarely will you be let down. Constant, never let up instilling a joyous outlook on a fulfilling future. Never.
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Good advice for any parent. I overestimated their level of maturity.
 
Murrmurr said:
The 666 thing IS a thing. Young women talk about it a lot. It's their yardstick when they're looking for a lasting relationship, especially the last 6 ....6-figure income. Their favorite quote is "I will not settle", and by that they mean settle for less, and by less they mean an average man.
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I don't think you've been looking at young ladies recently. Well, I have, on the beach. The amount of young women very overweight has gone through the roof! Definitely over half. Don't tell me they legitimately think 6/6/6 means men for them, because it doesn't. A triple six male wants a good looking broad. The problem is, almost ALL men feel deserving of a good looking broad. That's where men go wrong. Men should grow up when it comes to the looks department, as women have done for centuries.
 
Pepper said:
I don't think you've been looking at young ladies recently. Well, I have, on the beach. The amount of young women very overweight has gone through the roof! Definitely over half. Don't tell me they legitimately think 6/6/6 means men for them, because it doesn't. A triple six male wants a good looking broad. The problem is, almost ALL men feel deserving of a good looking broad. That's where men go wrong. Men should grow up when it comes to the looks department, as women have done for centuries.
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Men feel they deserve affection and life-long companionship with a woman they can get along with and build a future with, who won't rag about their "faults" every freaking day, drain their bank accounts, and bring a bunch of drama into their lives. And these days, add women who don't have a FansOnly account and then yell at their guy for smiling at a pretty gal.

We are not complicated, Peps. Our needs are simple. It comes down to peace, really. A woman who is sweet and affectionate and offers me peace and encouragement could weigh 300 pounds...I truly do not care, and I believe I speak for most men.

Both my sons married women who are ...let's say well above average weight, and they adore them.
 
I disagree, @Murrmurr. Many young men have unrealistic expectations of the woman they "deserve," IMO. Doesn't mean that they don't eventually settle. I call it the "Heart of Gold" syndrome.
 
Pepper said:
I don't think you've been looking at young ladies recently. Well, I have, on the beach. The amount of young women very overweight has gone through the roof! Definitely over half. Don't tell me they legitimately think 6/6/6 means men for them, because it doesn't. A triple six male wants a good looking broad. The problem is, almost ALL men feel deserving of a good looking broad. That's where men go wrong. Men should grow up when it comes to the looks department, as women have done for centuries.
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"Will you hold my hand, Peppsie?" 😊
 
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