What The Heck is Going On With These Cops! Are They Training these Kids When They're Young...

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...to submit or get a bullet in their heads?? :mad: This is BS, if that was my kid, I'd be fightin' mad! What do you think?? Video here...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ird-grader-at-school_55bfafc7e4b06363d5a2e5f2


WASHINGTON -- A school resource officer in Kentucky handcuffed a crying third-grader with disabilities last year, according to a new video released by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The video accompanies a federal lawsuit filed Monday by the ACLU, the Children's Law Center and Dinsmore & Shohl on behalf of two children against the Kenton County Sheriff's Office in Covington, Kentucky. The complaint alleges that a school resource officer unlawfully handcuffed an 8-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, both of whom have disabilities, in the fall of 2014.

"As a result of being subjected to unnecessary and excessive handcuffing, Plaintiffs experienced pain, fear, and emotional trauma, and an exacerbation of their disabilities," the lawsuit reads. The complaint alleges violations of the U.S. Constitution and Americans with Disabilities Act.

Colonel Pat Morgan, a spokesman for the Kenton County Sheriff's Office, told The Huffington Post that he was waiting for their attorneys to review the lawsuit before providing comment.
In the video, the boy, who allegedly has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and a history of trauma, is shown crying as an officer handcuffs his biceps behind his back. The ACLU claimed that he was placed in handcuffs for 15 minutes because of behavior related to his disabilities.

In the video, the officer tells the boy, "You don't get to swing at me like that." As he shackles the third-grader, who weighs about 50 pounds, the boy starts to cry and says that the officer is hurting him.

The use of shackles on youth in courtrooms, as well as in schools and treatment centers, is controversial. At least 100,000 children are shackled in the U.S. every year, David Shapiro, a campaign manager at the Campaign Against Indiscriminate Juvenile Shackling, told Mother Jones.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office reported in 2009 that it found hundreds of cases of alleged abuse and death related to the use of shackles and seclusion on school children over a two-decade period. The office identified at least 20 allegations that involved restraints and resulted in death.

They noted the case of a 7-year-old girl who died at a private treatment center after being restrained face-down on the floor for hours. "The staff was allegedly unaware she had stopped breathing until they rolled her limp body over and discovered she had begun to turn blue," the GAO wrote.
 

This kind of thing is just another example of how Nuts our world is becoming. When I was about that age, and misbehaved in class, I got to spend some "quality time" standing in the corner while my classmates snickered. The "peer pressure" was enough to make most of us take the hint, and save our goofing off for the playground. Things have sure changed in the past half century....and not always for the better.
 
Things have definitely changed, they're probably pumping these poor kids with pharmaceuticals like Ritalin, then they treat them like this, and when they grow up to be terrors in society, everyone will be just shocked and confused as to why.
 

I saw the video of handcuffing the 8 yr old boy around his little biceps because his wrists were too small…so so disturbing. I've gone so long without a TV and this was the first thing I saw on the new one I bought today. Almost took the TV back.
 
If a full grown adult cop, can't control an 8 yr. old without slapping cuffs on him, I'd say he has a big problem. I don't understand why the cops were involved in this anyway. :confused:
 
If a full grown adult cop, can't control an 8 yr. old without slapping cuffs on him, I'd say he has a big problem. I don't understand why the cops were involved in this anyway. :confused:

I have lived in some towns in different states where the police actually do operate in the schools. Protection from killers or just to maintain discipline. Many schools now have the teachers so controlled that they no longer are allowed to discipline the students at all. We have a real strange way of handling things now, compared to when I went through the school system. Back then, the teachers had control of the room. Sometimes they would take the problem out into the hall and we could hear the lockers rattle as her conversation continued. Or we might get sent to the pricipals office with a note. Plenty of scary situations we could get into.

Seems like now there is little discipline being offered and that means the kids are only getting half an education.
 
yes... I agree that 50 pound 8 year olds with adhd should routinely be handcuffed on their biceps with their arms behind their backs while crying.. It's absolutely the most effective way to discipline... :rolleyes:
 
Things have definitely changed, they're probably pumping these poor kids with pharmaceuticals like Ritalin, then they treat them like this, and when they grow up to be terrors in society, everyone will be just shocked and confused as to why.

Yeah, behavior drugs, like Ritalin, seem to have replaced parental attention and discipline. Kids will be kids, and they do some silly things...but that is how they learn, and if their energies are directed in a positive manner, and parents set limits. they learn the difference between right and wrong.

We've got our oldest great granddaughter...8 years old...here this week, and she has the run of the house. There are toys, etc., scattered all over, but we have all of next week to put the house in order. At least she can run around outdoors without some nitwit bothering her, and so long as she stays away from the brush at the edges of the yard...and the ticks, therein...she can pretty much do as she pleases. She's a good little squirt, and really smart, so she keep us hopping with her constant flow of questions, etc.

I don't know when things like ADHD became such an "epidemic" among kids...but I sure don't remember anything like that going around when I was a kid.
 
I don't remember a whole bunch of things like that when we were kids. Kids... especially boys were higher energy and were not considered "behavior problems" Just BOYS.... and I certainly don't remember one single kid dropping dead from smelling a peanut.. or epi-pens a standard part of schools supplies.. When did all those "allergies" come to be.. and why?
 
I think a lot of this stuff is a result of how kids live today. They seem to spend way too much time indoors, watching TV and playing video games, etc. When I was little, unless the weather was really nasty, Mom sent me outdoors and several of us neighborhood kids played ball in the street, or played in the dirt in a vacant lot, etc.,etc. Dirt and bug bites were part of the day, and our immune systems got a pretty good workout. Running excess energy off was Not a problem. Watching some of the kids today, I think they are missing out on a lot of good things....especially if they live in a crowded city environment. More parks and open spaces, with some adult supervision to watch out for "predators" would certainly help a lot of these kids....and be far better than feeding them pills.
 
My dad used to say.. "go outside and blow the stink out of your ears" In other words.. get the heck out of the house and play. And we did.. In the summer we were out from morning until the street lights came on. It was a different time.
 
I don't know when I was young(I think, can't remember anymore) I only seem to remember things & words like dean, principals office, detention, the paddle, extra homework, suspension etc, repeat the year, drop back a grade etc used to keep most inline. Don't remember even hearing about prescribed drugs or police used to control the delinquents. As matter a fact everyone seem to know who the problem children were they were that few. Now it seems the parent and child wear an "official" diagnosis of attention deficit disorder with a badge of honor when it's mostly only an excuse to take responsibility off the parent and child. attention deficit hyperactivity disorder?-no such thing as rambunctious.

And yes when I was young(I think) in school I don't remember an allergic reaction to anything let alone peanuts, maybe because peanut butter and jelly was the cheapest thing on the menu.

Personally beside legal cover the wimpy little butts administrators and parents I think technology has led to instant gratification. Kids don't have to wait for a lot of things we had to wait for. Heck you had to wait to hear a song on the radio or for your favorite tv show to be broadcast. Now they go online when ever they want. Throw in a lot of other conveniences like the microwave one forbid they take time to prepare a meal. Half of these kids and parents are worse than a dog that is constantly licking itself.
 
My 6 1/2 year old great grandaughter was diagnosed with ADHD when she was 5 and this last February she was diagnosed with autism on the lower end of the spectrum, we knew almost from her birth that there was something wrong and after several visits to the family GP she was eventually referred to a pediatrician and a behavourial clinic when she was three years old, on each visit my grandaughter had to obtain a letter from pre-school and then main stream school when great grandaughter started there in order for the pediatrician to assess her correctly, as you can see from all that it was not a quick diagnosis and no medication has been prescribed apart from that my grandaughter is adament she will not go down that route for as long as she can manage her child.

I can assure you that it is not always easy living with a child with my great grandaughters condition we have good days and then there are the truly bad days. In lots of things there is no concept of understanding and no reasoning with her when she is being exceptionally bad or having a melt down.

What I do know is after my experience with my great grandaughter that ADHD and Autism is not something to be dismissed and those conditions are very real.

The following link takes you to... Living with ADHD.... from the NHS U.K.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder/Pages/LivingwithADHDpage.aspx
 
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Each state and in some cases each county in each state have different rules (and some have gone to the extent of making their own laws) as to how best to deal with unruly students. I also know of schools here in Pennsylvania that have the halls monitored by local police. These police are also used to remove kids from classrooms that either threaten or attack fellow students and teachers.To complicate matters worse, schools also have their own policies with how they want students that are acting out dealt with. From the police perspective, we must be careful not to violate anyone's constitutional rights and only do what the laws permit us to.

Personally, I never enjoyed having to deal with these situations. There is so much that can go wrong. I think I understand why the cop did what he did, but I also believe that the officer may not be aware of what exactly he was dealing with, in so far as a child with ADHD. We continue to receive training in this area and dealing with involuntary commitments. It's not always a pleasant thing to do, especially if having to deal with adults that act out.
 
Still... the picture of a 50 pound third grader handcuffed like that... with a grown man standing over him skeeves me out.... a whole lot.. There had to be a much better way to handle it.
 
Fortunately we do not have police patrolling schools in the U.K., but most schools have a teacher that has trained in SENCO ("Special Educational Needs Co-ordinator") and a lot of the main stream schools will have a one to one for children with special needs education.
 
Still... the picture of a 50 pound third grader handcuffed like that... with a grown man standing over him skeeves me out.... a whole lot.. There had to be a much better way to handle it.

In some respects the deputy is showing as much impatience escalating or accelerating the use of handcuffs. Sounds like he wants instant gratification too.
 


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