What is this new RSV vaccine?

GymLady said:
Arexvy is what I had
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I got that this year too. Google says it is a vaccine that protects against respiratory syncytial virus (RSV). I'm pro vaccines in general and not the least bit worried about taking one for something I'd rather avoid.
 

I would not be so pro vaccine for the simple reason that alot of what you are hearing is from the drug companies. They have a product to sell, they have the money to sell it. They do a good job of promoting what they sell.
That being said there is alot of evidence that these drugs have not been tested properly and in alot of cases do not protect you from what you expect.
Your immune system is your best defense. The stronger it is, the more immune you are. Vaccines circumvent your immune system and in effect replace it. They disable it to be blunt.
Covid for example. How many people had covid after they had the vaccine?
There is too much in this issue to be simple in answers.
Suffice to say that you are better off taking less drugs, eating properly and watching your diet.
There are no magic pills and the drug companies are out of control.
 
rbtvgo said:
Your immune system is your best defense. The stronger it is, the more immune you are. Vaccines circumvent your immune system and in effect replace it. They disable it to be blunt.
Covid for example. How many people had covid after they had the vaccine?
There is too much in this issue to be simple in answers.
Suffice to say that you are better off taking less drugs, eating properly and watching your diet.
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getting covid after you had the vaccine doesn't mean the vaccine disabled your immune system - it mean the vaccine is not perfect - was anyone claiming it was?

With all vaccines, if you get the disease after being vaccinated the severity is MUCH less - that is still the vaccine being effective.

and of course taking less drugs, if possible, and eating properly (and not smoking and being a healthy weight) give you a better defence system
Some things you have control over - your weight, your diet, not smoking.
Other things you do not - genetic factors, age

and it isnt an either /or scenario - - perfectly possible to be a healthy weight, eat properly etc - and take relevant vaccines.
 
January said:
With all vaccines, if you get the disease after being vaccinated the severity is MUCH less - that is still the vaccine being effective.
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That makes no sense. The truth is that Injecting poisons that wipe out your immune system
makes you much more likely to get sick and to die, depending on your prior condition, the severity
of the poisons, their duration and any other barbaric treatments that you undergo.

Likewise, supposedly healthy people who poison themselves are no longer healthy.
 
Of course, anyone who works for and gets paid by big pharma for posting false information that enriches
themselves at the expense of other people's health and lives, and who would get fired for posting the truth,
would not be inclined to admit to reality.

I completely understand that position, but do not agree with it, and feel that being truthful is much better.

That is, assuming the person is actually aware of the truth, and for whatever reason is not completely deluded.
However, that is also a strong possibly and goes hand in hand with the first one, i.e. choosing to be deluded in order
to maximize one's personal position and profits, regardless of the harm that it causes to others. Shameful in any case.
 
Simple truth is that if your immune system is strong it will protect you. Not saying you will not be sick. Just saying that your body will work it out, so to speak.
Some vaccines, like for polio etc where advantages. But today it is a minefield of information.
The magic cures for flu, phenomena, covid, shinkles, etc are promoted and urged on us thru news and online advertisments. Watch HGTV? how many drug commercials do you endure.
Basic fact................if your immune system is working ......................leave it alone. No drugs, unless you have an infection which is kind of obvious. Other wise tuff it out until it's over or it gets worse and you need help.
Medicine has greatly advanced, no doubt, but there is no magic pill, now or coming forward that will protect you from the daily everyday ailments that we all suffer occasionally.
The drug companies are out of control, plain and simple. The have the money, the government protection and the ability to bombard us with tv ads, posters, billboards and little signs above every Pharmacy location that you can get your flu shot here.

I will say again..............................if your immune sytem is working, leave it alone to do it's job. Don't try to help it it with a vaccine that the drug companies promote.

Had covid, no vaccine. Doing fine.
Just don't give in to all you are hearing.
 
I went thru all the post. Amazing responses.
I stick by what I have said. Leave your immune system alone to do it's job. Truth be told, covid was a flu that got more news then it should have. The Government jumped in and off we went.
Stores closed, people out of work. The whole country in turmoil. Here comes the government response, support, funding, checks to your door stop. The governments, screaming for support, more beds! more oxygen! etc, etc,etc.
Drug companies step in and find a vaccine? just like that, no problem. Now we rush to get injected.
Absolute chaos.
Side effects from vaccines. I won't even begin.
Don't know what to add other then don't believe all that you are hearing
 
January said:
ah well ,maybe not to you - I think most people can understand it though
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Yeah tough choice: what doctors and medical science recommend vs what strangers on the internet are convinced of based on their personal research on the internet. When the research consists of looking for confirmation for what you start off assuming all you get is a hall of mirrors. I don’t go ‘researching’ whether doctors and medical science are to believed : it is simply good sense to do so.
 
I don't research on the internet either, as sources of that type of research are unknown, untraceable in most cases. And now with AI, who knows where the heck AI is getting it's "intelligence" ( :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO: ) from?

I was taught to research via professional journals and via authentic traceable sources. However, since then, upon reading some "Professional Journals" or reading published information from some "Professional" Organizations, such as the "American Pediatrics Association": the science based "professionals" need to stay out of social virtue signaling and politics as it seems to add bias to their research.

Social politics and love of money have no place in hard sciences it biases research results.
Example: Covid immunizations and now RSV immunizations.
Pharma commercials are creating paranoid hypochondriacs of the uneducated (in life sciences) masses.
 
CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
Social politics and love of money have no place in hard sciences it biases research results.
Example: Covid immunizations and now RSV immunizations.
Pharma commercials are creating paranoid hypochondriacs of the uneducated (in life sciences) masses.
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Baseless accusation with no justification provided. Thanks for sharing your personal opinion albeit masquerading as something dramatically more than that.
 
No recent vaccine gives me a warm fuzzy as to effectiveness.
But they sure sell well.
Drug companies are making billions. We worry about Amazon or Google taking over the world. Think about the drug companies?????????
you have a problem, we have a cure.
scary stuff!
 
MarkD said:
Yeah tough choice: what doctors and medical science recommend vs what strangers on the internet are convinced of based on their personal research on the internet. When the research consists of looking for confirmation for what you start off assuming all you get is a hall of mirrors. I don’t go ‘researching’ whether doctors and medical science are to believed : it is simply good sense to do so.
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Gosh, so you have discussed this with doctors and "medical science?" Because I have, and they admit that it's a scam.

What you really mean is that you obey authoritarian sources without question, even if those are merely network news actors and the dictates of medical administrators who are after a slice of the pharma pie.

Those days are long gone now for most people, because we realize there is no harm in questioning and listening to multiple voices before making up our minds.

The approach to life you espouse looks radically political, and those days are long gone. People have walked away with their heads held high.
 
dilettante said:
Gosh, so you have discussed this with doctors and "medical science?" Because I have, and they admit that it's a scam.

What you really mean is that you obey authoritarian sources without question, even if those are merely network news actors and the dictates of medical administrators who are after a slice of the pharma pie.

Those days are long gone now for most people, because we realize there is no harm in questioning and listening to multiple voices before making up our minds.

The approach to life you espouse looks radically political, and those days are long gone. People have walked away with their heads held high.
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Nobody is an expert in every field but a wise person can figure out whose judgment to trust in fields where their own preparation is lacking. I don't see decisions regarding healthcare as an intellectual mud wrestling match and my self worth doesn't depend on doing everything on my own or in my way. I find what you wrote comical.
 
dilettante said:
Well that isn't what I said. But it's impressive that you completed such a survey. How long did that take?

Oh wait, I'm guessing that you didn't. At all.
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I know it isnt - you said "so you have discussed this with doctors and "medical science?" Because I have, and they admit that it's a scam."

as if somehow the doctors you have discussed it with who somehow all think it is a scam are representative of the medical profession but any other sources are not.

Medical bodies making recomendations make them based on expert medical advice - the idea that most doctors disagree with such is nonsense.
 
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