What is this new RSV vaccine?

I have certainly heard of it - most people will have heard of children getting croup - RSV is the virus which causes that.

My father heard of it too - he was in hospital for 3 days with it.
 

I think we can.
Any professional group has organisations which represent their members - to suggest most members are against what their professional recomendations state is nonsense.

Of course one person saying he has discussed it ŵith doctors hardly shows what the majority of them thinks either 🙄
 

January said:
The vast majority of medical doctors do not think vaccination is a scam at all.
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Another huge red flag to not trust anything being promoted by the greedy doctors, nurses, and other uncaring people
who make their living by constantly promoting the dangerous big pharma BS propaganda, lies, and conspiracy theories.

I personally never go to doctors, and never watch any of their BS propaganda commercials for exactly that reason.
Thus I have never been sick from an imaginary virus, nor from any other of the multitude of chronic disease conditions
that are caused by the big pharma quacks. Meanwhile they have no clue (duh!) of what the cause is of all those diseases.
 
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January said:
I think we can.
Any professional group has organisations which represent their members - to suggest most members are against what their professional recomendations state is nonsense.

Of course one person saying he has discussed it ŵith doctors hardly shows what the majority of them thinks either 🙄
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One can lose one's professional license by openly disagreeing with authorities.
 
My wife and I had RSV 2 years ago.....It is like having Covid (so I'm told) without the death, although it sure felt close to it for us.

My wife drove a school bus and got it from her kids on the bus. She nearly died, but thankfully recovered after 8 days in the Hospital.

My RSV (caught from my wife) was thankfully milder, but still was 2 weeks of worse than flu hell.

At the time, there was no treatment for RSV. The RSV vaccine became available after a couple of months of when we recovered. Needless to say, we're up-to-date on the RSV vaccine and have had no issues since. So far, we've only had to have the initial dose of this vaccine.
 

John cycling said:
Another huge red flag to not trust anything being promoted by the greedy doctors, nurses, and other uncaring people
who make their living by constantly promoting the dangerous big pharma BS propaganda, lies, and conspiracy theories.

I personally never go to doctors, and never watch any of their BS propaganda commercials for exactly that reason.
Thus I have never been sick from an imaginary virus, nor from any other of the multitude of chronic disease conditions
that are caused by the big pharma quacks. Meanwhile they have no clue (duh!) of what the cause is of all those diseases
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oh right - doctors and nurses are just greedy (not sure how you conclude that about nurses, certainly isnt high paying job :unsure:)

and viruses are just imaginary and it is all a conspiracy and medical proffesion has no clue - but of course you do :rolleyes:
 
gruntlabor said:
One can lose one's professional license by openly disagreeing with authorities.
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Sure - Like most proffessions, one can be disbarred for bringing profession into disrepute, unethical behaviour etc.

Andrew Wakefield good example of that

But concluding from that that most people disagree with what their proffessional body is saying - hmm, rather a stretch there. :unsure:
 
gruntlabor said:
It is dishonest to put words in the mouths of others.

What I said was: We can't possibly know what the 'vast majority' of any group thinks. (post #102)
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Ah well, like I said I think we can, as I already explained.

I've made my point, I have no more to say on that, I dont want to hijack thread on tit for tats.
 
John cycling said:
Another huge red flag to not trust anything being promoted by the greedy doctors, nurses, and other uncaring people
who make their living by constantly promoting the dangerous big pharma BS propaganda, lies, and conspiracy theories.

I personally never go to doctors, and never watch any of their BS propaganda commercials for exactly that reason.
Thus I have never been sick from an imaginary virus, nor from any other of the multitude of chronic disease conditions
that are caused by the big pharma quacks. Meanwhile they have no clue (duh!) of what the cause is of all those diseases.
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Exactly. Most people if they eat right and exercise will never get anything. Or if they do, it will be mild at best.
Read a study recently about muscle and the immune system. Direct correlation between a strong immune system and a strong body. It was an 11 part series. It was awesome.
I'm with you John. I stay away from the white coats at any cost. I think its been years since I went near one, and it was a possible broken knuckle. Even then I dreaded it!
 
Doctors and the medical field were always considered to be the epitome of what is known about health, how to take care of ourselves and how we should proceed. They recommend and we follow their instructions.

This is a different world we live in. How many doctors promoted the covid vaccine. How much help was it?? My son had the vaccine and the boosters and he ended up getting covid 3 times.?????????

I never had the vaccine. Was sick last Dec with all the symptoms and it passed. Still have no taste buds but that's a minor point.
On the other hand there is much reporting about people with other issues that erupted after taking the vaccine.
I don't know the answer. Just don't be so quick to trust the "experts". They are not. Your health is something that you need to take charge of and no vaccine is going to make your life better. We get sick, we hunker down with soup and old movies and we recover.
No miracle vaccines, just Pharmaceutical companies making a lot of money with the Governments blessing.
Think about it
 
Nobody claims that people who have had the vaccine will not get Covid - but severity is much reduced so that is still the vaccine helping.
 
gruntlabor said:
and how exactly did they go about proving that, January? I'm not trying to assert anything here, except that the vaccine certainly contains toxins, and that our government certainly is corrupt.
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like any scientific data - there would be information on people vaccinated and not vaccinated and outcomes of each with positive covid results

as well as demographic data like how many people are hospitalised with Covid before and after vaccinations appeared on the scene.

anything is toxic - dosage matters. and risk vs benifit matters

Your US govt may be corrupt - but Covid was a world wide issue, not something confined to US - medical bodies around the world were all on same page

Most governments followed the recomendations of non political medical bodies - only in US did it become a political football.
 
rbtvgo said:
Doctors and the medical field were always considered to be the epitome of what is known about health, how to take care of ourselves and how we should proceed. They recommend and we follow their instructions.

This is a different world we live in. How many doctors promoted the covid vaccine. How much help was it?? My son had the vaccine and the boosters and he ended up getting covid 3 times.?????????

I never had the vaccine. Was sick last Dec with all the symptoms and it passed. Still have no taste buds but that's a minor point.
On the other hand there is much reporting about people with other issues that erupted after taking the vaccine.
I don't know the answer. Just don't be so quick to trust the "experts". They are not. Your health is something that you need to take charge of and no vaccine is going to make your life better. We get sick, we hunker down with soup and old movies and we recover.
No miracle vaccines, just Pharmaceutical companies making a lot of money with the Governments blessing.
Think about it
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Absolutely well said!
 
January said:
like any scientific data - there would be information on people vaccinated and not vaccinated and outcomes of each with positive covid results

as well as demographic data like how many people are hospitalised with Covid before and after vaccinations appeared on the scene.

anything is toxic - dosage matters. and risk vs benifit matters

Your US govt may be corrupt - but Covid was a world wide issue, not something confined to US - medical bodies around the world were all on same page

Most governments followed the recomendations of non political medical bodies - only in US did it become a political football.
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That was true for earlier vaccines. Not true in the time of covid!

'Anything' is not toxic. 'Anything' is not invasive. 'Anything' is not repeated over and over to apparent infinity.

Nonpolitical medical bodies? Which in the U.S. might those be?

It was never a 'political football' here! Big pharma and government (the Right and the Left) were absolutely on the same page.

And I might just mention the deliberate dumbing down of populations, and their blind acceptance of authority.
 
When pharmaceutical companies started advertising the world changed….our expectations of health changed. I do not consider it a corrupt system…simply one that feeds upon the herd mentality and lack of independent thought.
 
gruntlabor said:
That was true for earlier vaccines. Not true in the time of covid!

'Anything' is not toxic. 'Anything' is not invasive. 'Anything' is not repeated over and over to apparent infinity.

Nonpolitical medical bodies? Which in the U.S. might those be?

It was never a 'political football' here! Big pharma and government (the Right and the Left) were absolutely on the same page.

And I might just mention the deliberate dumbing down of populations, and their blind acceptance of authority.
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Yes anything is toxic in the right dosage and context. and yes there is data on outcomes before and after vaccination for Covid as there are for all other diseases.

I didnt say any medical bodies in US were non political - in fact that was my point - Covid became politicised in US in a way which did not happen in other countries where medical bodies are non political

Certainly didnt seem to me that Right and Left were on same page in US - although probably most people were, there was quite a vocal political arm dismissing vaccines, mask wearing, lockdowns etc.

But since we are not allowed t o discuss politics here, I guess no more can be said on that.
 
January said:
... yes there is data on outcomes before and after vaccination ...

Certainly didnt seem to me that Right and Left were on same page in US - although probably most people were, there was quite a vocal political arm dismissing vaccines, mask wearing, lockdowns etc.

But since we are not allowed t o discuss politics here, I guess no more can be said on that.
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1) It's well documented that, due to the emergency, proper protocol was skipped over.

2) That's news to me! Which "vocal political arm dismissing vaccines ... " was that, please? I never heard of it.

3) We're discussing vaccines, not politics.

Also, I have read that wild viruses have been found in these vaccines.
 

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