Gisele Pelicot case in France

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Reading the details of this whole dreadful case is simply horrifying. To think of the depths of darkness that all those men went into and a husband doing that to the mother of his children.
This woman is extremely brave in not remaining anonymous. I can't imagine her feelings when she realised the truth.
It is incredible at how such a thing can happen over so long a period.
 

"Sometime between 2010 and 2011, a man claiming to be a nurse sent Mr Pelicot photos of his wife, drugged with sleeping pills to the point of unconsciousness. He also shared precise instructions with Mr Pelicot so that he could do the same to Gisèle.
At first he hesitated – but not for long.
Through trial and error he realised that with the right dosage of pills he could plunge his wife into a sleep so deep nothing would wake her. They had been lawfully prescribed by his doctor, who thought Mr Pelicot suffered from anxiety due to financial troubles.
He would then be able to dress her in lingerie she refused to wear, or put her through sexual practices she would have never accepted while conscious. He could film the scenes, which she would not have allowed while awake."

Happens: believe me.
 

There have been some stories in US news, saw them on YouTube. Apparently while the site where Mr. Pelicot met his numerous accomplices has shut down several new ones have popped up to replace it. Good her for to talking authorities. Who knows how many others are doing similar things to their spouses or girlfriends.
 
feywon said:
There have been some stories in US news, saw them on YouTube. Apparently while the site where Mr. Pelicot met his numerous accomplices has shut down several new ones have popped up to replace it. Good her for to talking authorities. Who knows how many others are doing similar things to their spouses or girlfriends.
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It's no wonder so many singles are deciding to remain that way nowadays. Too many stories like this builds up a fear of strangers, so it seems safer to stay away.
 
I saw it on the news for the first time today. Her husband and 50 men were found guilty for rape. What a horrible situation but it is good she seems to have been able to move beyond it. She was quoted as saying that the person who is abused shouldn't feel shame. It should be the abuser. I hope these men serve a good, long sentence.
 
seadoug said:
I saw it on the news for the first time today. Her husband and 50 men were found guilty for rape. What a horrible situation but it is good she seems to have been able to move beyond it. She was quoted as saying that the person who is abused shouldn't feel shame. It should be the abuser. I hope these men serve a good, long sentence.
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Sentencing was yesterday and she has ten days to object.
 
This case has made quite an impression in Australia since it first came to light, Gisele Pelicot has received moral support form Australian women

Pilbara scarf presented to Gisèle Pelicot as gesture of solidarity

The scarf was purchased and sent to Gisèle Pelicot by the Older Women's Network Australia — an organisation that works to promote the rights and wellbeing of older women.

"We felt there was an urgent need to express our solidarity for the incredible courage that she has shown in the face of the indescribable trauma that she was facing," Older Women's Network NSW chief executive Yumi Lee said.
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Ms Lee said the trial had importance here in Australia.

"Over 87 per cent of women who experience sexual assault do not report it for a range of reasons, and if that woman is older the range of reasons expands even more," she said. So having Gisèle stand up and say that her trial has to be held in public and she will endure this under the full glare of the media and the public gives us an opportunity to talk about the issue, to say that the status quo is completely unacceptable, and things have to change."
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LoveTulips said:
Was she on drugs 24/7? I'm just wondering how she did not know that this abuse was happening for years and years??
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Good question. She was given an extreme amount of sleeping pills by her husband. They could have been ground up and put into her drinks. I take sleeping pills. When I wake up in the morning I only remember my dreams.

As I understand it, she can be seen snoring in the videos her degenerate husband recorded.
 
LoveTulips said:
Was she on drugs 24/7? I'm just wondering how she did not know that this abuse was happening for years and years??
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It never fails to make wonder about the insidious power of coercive control.
I heard a police woman interviewed and she described how she suddenly realised that she had been coercively controlled without realising it.
Gisele may well have been gaslit and coercively controlled by her ex.
 
seadoug said:
I saw it on the news for the first time today. Her husband and 50 men were found guilty for rape. What a horrible situation but it is good she seems to have been able to move beyond it. She was quoted as saying that the person who is abused shouldn't feel shame. It should be the abuser. I hope these men serve a good, long sentence.
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Yes i saw that, something every abused person needs to remember, needs to hear others affirm: The abuser is the one to be shamed, and punished to full extent of the law. While being a 'survivor' of any form of abuse is not without trauma, and the need to heal, refuting or letting go of self blame and shame facilitate the transition from victim to survivor.
 
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Unfortunately the husband only got 20 years because that's the max the French judicial system can give..absolute travesty.... however the silver lining was that all the men who came to rape her were also jailed for substantial terms... average 10 years


Some of the excuses these men gave for assaulting her.. were just incredulous...

One man even drove 2.5 hours to do it... almost all of them said they thought she was unconscious, a couple even thought she was dead, yet they still did it...
 
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feywon said:
I think there are many factors and a bigger influence may be the relationships they've either witnessed (familial, friends) or their own misguided choices.
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I think social media is also playing a huge part in how people get along these days though. I've seen so many Youtube videos over the last year where women are talking about why they're done with romantic relationships/marriages and of late, many who are saying no to sex and children altogether. Social media has been a disastrous experiment for human society in all kinds of ways.

Just for example, a few years ago, we started seeing articles about 'dumping toxic relationships' and today we see an overgrowth of adult children dumping their parents. It builds.
 
and we say that evil does not exist - that humans cannot become worse than even animals? - if there is a God how is this allowed to happen ? - and we really did ascend from apes? all good men should pray for forgiveness to their Gods?
 
LoveTulips said:
Was she on drugs 24/7? I'm just wondering how she did not know that this abuse was happening for years and years??
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She visited numerous doctors for unexplained symptoms such as memory loss, periods of confusion, and UTIs and STIs, . Her "loving" husband went with her to support her on these visits, knowing perfectly well what had caused all the issues.
 
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