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“No Battle Plan Survives Contact With the Enemy”
Pearl Harbor plunged the US into war. What to know about the surprise attack
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Llynn
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If that happened today the lines would be a lot shorter and the average would be about 40 lbs overweight.
DGM
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IMHO Kennedy saw what a quagmire Vietnam would soon become and was going to back out of it. LBJ told his cronies to get him into the White House and he and McNamara would get us into that war. I firmly believe CIA offed Kennedy and it's been proven LBJ and McNamara cooked the whole thing up. I was 16 when it happened and I asked my mother if they really expected us to believe this BS.
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I think that Eisenhower saw the chessboard and glimpsed the players as early as the last year of WW II.
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The USA's 3 Pacific aircraft Carriers were not at port, 2 were ferrying aircraft to Midway Island. I think the fact is what is good to know.What was the Pearl Harbor attack?
"The Imperial Japanese Navy's Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto dispatched all six of his “fleet carriers” across 3,000 miles of open ocean in secrecy, with the fleet arriving a few hundred miles north of the Hawaiian islands."
Sailors in a motor launch rescue a survivor from the water alongside the sunken USS West Virginia (BB48) during or shortly after the Japanese air raid on Pearl Harbor. USS Tennessee (BB-43) is behind the sunken battleship.
© U.S. Navy photo
"The carriers launched their aircraft early on a Sunday morning, the National World War II Museum said on its website. U.S. forces were completely unprepared, and in less than 90 minutes, Japanese planes destroyed or damaged 19 ships and 300 aircraft, and killed more than 2,400 servicemen."
"Almost half of the dead were crewmen from the battleship USS Arizona, which sank within minutes after a bomb struck its forward magazine, igniting more than a million pounds of ammunition."
"Saturday marks the 83rd anniversary of the attack, which then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt called "a date which will live in infamy." The aftermath of the attack and ensuing worldwide conflict saw millions of people killed and shaped the world for decades afterward."
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Some Admirals didn't care about Battleships by that time , the aircraft bombs were more dangerous and didn't want to spend the money keeping them Battleships and cruisers out of their docks floating around useless at nowhere south of Hawaii. At least 1 carrier was south of Hawaii on drills. 2 others were wherever. Military thinkers new Aircraft carriers were the big super saver of the world. Today it looks like
Its Drones / hypersonic.
The Military knew the Japs Navy is on the move, Their carriers at sea & thinking Midway was the likely target.
Hawaii was the sucker punch. But who was the actual sucker and who got the shit kickes off them. The spies
got some of it wrong. Thas the way some lucky stuff goes. Too smart for their own good.
Maybe the World is rapidly approaching the same sort of beginning / possibly the same outcome again because of greed!
Think about who the sheep are and who are the greedy.
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DGM
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Greed made us great and greed will be our undoing.
I have been to Hawaii 3 times and each time I have to go out to Pearl Harbor. The last time I was there, which was about 6 years ago, I went there on a beautiful late June day. We explored a sub that was used during WWII and I had one of my grandsons with me, so we had to take the ride out to the USS Arizona and a tour of the harbor, which I enjoy. They still have all the moorings and they are marked so you know what ships were parked at each one.