The Real Damage Trump is doing.

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Surprised I haven't heard more of this.. There are 24 Republican Senate seats up for re-election in 2016.. Many of those seats are in states Obama carried in 2012.. If Trump continues to tarnish the Republican Party as he is doing by dragging all the candidates so far right, and turning off moderates and independents, the GOP is in real danger of losing their majority in the Senate. They will also lose seats in the House as a result, but Gerrymandering will probably keep it in GOP hands for another election cycle.. BUT after that? Who knows.. It's not always the Presidential race that dictates power... Keep an eye on the Senate.. It has a very good chance of returning to a Democratic majority... This I think is what has the RNC tied up in knots.. Not just who wins the presidential nomination.
 

But Trumps margin of support keeps growing.

Best wait till spring to see just who is still in the running. That is when the real election stuff begins to be meaningful.
 
Trumps attraction is his open expression of his opinions....without regard to being "Politically Correct". In an environment where every politician is so concerned about "hurting someone's feelings" he is a breath of fresh air to many people. However, as the election season progresses, and more people pay close attention to what he is saying, they will realize that his "solutions" are unworkable.

If his candidacy does anything positive, it will be that he may force these other politicians to take a stand on the issues, and make some specific promises that aren't totally cloaked in "Political Double Speak". In that regard, he may turn out to be a Positive, in the long run, and give the voters a better picture of just what the eventual candidates really intend to do.
 
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QuickSilver said:
Surprised I haven't heard more of this.. There are 24 Republican Senate seats up for re-election in 2016.. Many of those seats are in states Obama carried in 2012.. If Trump continues to tarnish the Republican Party as he is doing by dragging all the candidates so far right, and turning off moderates and independents, the GOP is in real danger of losing their majority in the Senate. They will also lose seats in the House as a result, but Gerrymandering will probably keep it in GOP hands for another election cycle.. BUT after that? Who knows.. It's not always the Presidential race that dictates power... Keep an eye on the Senate.. It has a very good chance of returning to a Democratic majority... This I think is what has the RNC tied up in knots.. Not just who wins the presidential nomination.
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Using old school establishment strategist thinking that very well could happen. But judging by current polling which is dumb founding many this might not be the case. Throw in a Biden or Sanders for the Dems all previous strategies/thinking might go out the window. I'd be curious to see if Trump does go third party would he be able to put state and local candidates on his party's ticket.
 
WhatInThe said:
Using old school establishment strategist thinking that very well could happen. But judging by current polling which is dumb founding many this might not be the case..
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Just remember... this is the Primary.. and current polling is taken from likely Republican voters... not a broad cross-section like during the General. It's proven that for both parties.. it's mostly the hard core FAR right and Far left that tend to come out in droves. I don't place any credence in Trumps polling when it comes to predicting if he can win the Presidency.. Now the Primary?... I still think it's doubtful once the field is narrowed down.. but it's possible... I think the GOP pontification during the primary, and everyone trying to "out Trump..Trump".. is going to scare the bejesus out of Moderates on both sides and Independents.. I think it is VERY possible if not likely that the Democrats will win back the Senate
 
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QuickSilver said:
Just remember... this is the Primary.. and current polling is taken from likely Republican voters... not a broad cross-section like during the General. It's proven that for both parties.. it's mostly the hard core FAR right and Far left that tend to come out in droves. I don't place any credence in Trumps polling when it comes to predicting if he can win the Presidency.. Now the Primary?... I still think it's doubtful once the field is narrowed down.. but it's possible... I think the GOP pontification during the primary, and everyone trying to "out Trump..Trump".. is going to scare the bejesus out of Moderates on both sides and Independents.. I think it is VERY possible if not likely that the Democrats will win back the Senate
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I would basically agree if Bernie Sanders wasn't polling so high. These are TWO candidates that should've fizzled out or faded away by now.
 
WhatInThe said:
I would basically agree if Bernie Sanders wasn't polling so high. These are TWO candidates that should've fizzled out or faded away by now.
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Bernie is polling high for the same reason.. The polls are based on likely Democratic voters... Bernie's following consists of the more Progressive voters.
 
QuickSilver said:
Bernie is polling high for the same reason.. The polls are based on likely Democratic voters... Bernie's following consists of the more Progressive voters.
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I think both bring an anti establishment or not same old name/stuff to the election. I think voters in both establishment parties would vote for an anti establishment candidate if they thought their chances were real or their campaigns still have the same energy they have now.
 

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