Where does God live?

CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
Love is an energy. It is not created nor can it be destroyed. Energy is always positive.
It exists everywhere and flows freely between and about all people; anywhere in the universe; just like any other energy.
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Be really cool if I could charge my cell phone with this positive energy.
 

David777 said:
I very strongly doubt on the basis of physical science, the possibility all reality is a simulation. IMO, as likely as time moving backwards. Also any speculation we humans are transplants from some alien world. The strongest arguments against that is embryology science that shows all higher neochord animals share common cellular division stages from first sperm and egg cellular divisions. Also a genetic reason despite science fiction movies, that no extraterrestrial alien creatures would ever be able to successfully mate with humans, haha.
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It is entirely conceivable that if a divine creator placed us on Earth, He/She/they might have also sown life on other planets, populating the cosmos with kindred beings. Imagine the day when we encounter extraterrestrials, only to find that they are strikingly similar to us—perhaps versions of humanity that embarked on a different path. These interstellar cousins, graced with a head start, might have channeled their intelligence towards remarkable advancements rather than the pursuit of conflict.
 
rbtvgo said:
Want to know God?
Look around you. The balance of nature. The balance of life. Random? just happened, right.
Earth is a freak of the odds?
Just look. Hell! why are we even talking.
Got it all figured out. Let us know.
Otherwise give it some thought.
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To my mind, the notion of an accidental emergence of the universe appears as plausible as the theory of divine creation, with (the lack of) evidence seeming to equally support both paradigms. The concepts of heaven and hell, however, strike me as inconsistent with the benevolent nature attributed to God—a deity described as loving and compassionate. It is difficult to reconcile the idea of such a being condemning a nonbeliever to an eternity of torment in a fiery, sulfurous inferno. The belief that consuming meat on a Friday could lead to such a grotesque and dire fate seems incongruous with the notion of a merciful and forgiving God.
 
Rich said:
It is entirely conceivable that if a divine creator placed us on Earth, He/She/they might have also sown life on other planets, populating the cosmos with kindred beings. Imagine the day when we encounter extraterrestrials, only to find that they are strikingly similar to us—perhaps versions of humanity that embarked on a different path. These interstellar cousins, graced with a head start, might have channeled their intelligence towards remarkable advancements rather than the pursuit of conflict.
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IMO, ancient UIEs likely practice direct panspermia of DNA life on all the nearby rare worlds on suitable liquid water zone planets capable of lasting billions of years without nearby supernova. But as noted, due to the near infinite paths of possible embryology cell division, it would be virtually impossible for identical development to occur beyond the simplest lifeforms.

That noted, it is true that some of the general forms of life successful on Earth due to the nature of gravity, mineralogy, atmospheres, geology if similar, are likely to result in similar niche general forms of life. So other worlds like Earth may have fish like life that eventually also left oceans as amphibians and then evolved into a great range of creatures like here. There would be herb-like life and tree-like life that might evolve monkey-like life eventually evolving appendages with hands etc. So yes, even monkeys like us. But all the internal structures would vary immensely due to random paths. On some worlds, a flying bird-like lifeform might end up as the first tool using intelligent creatures and that may be what God's Angels are.

Evidence of possible direct panspermia is the unlikely if purely natural, Cambrian Explosion of greatly varied lifeforms that oddly was never repeated. Like aliens plunked down a bunch of weird types from other worlds, only a few of many then dominated. Octopus were one of those.
 
As some have replied, that God lives in the heart of believers and is also Omnipresent, then it logically follows that the God you are speaking of must be a spirit (Not having physical form). That being the case, and using that scenario, then there wouldn't be any heaven where God dwells, as he or she is everywhere, just as matter and energy are.

However, if one also believes that God created angels, then where do they dwell? Surely not in your heart (Mind), because why would they? If they just invisibly fly around protecting believers, then bad things wouldn't happen to good people. So, if they were to exist (Created before the world), then where is home for them, unless they are also spirits.

The Bible speaks of heaven as a place that exists. One third of the angels were cast out of there because they rebelled. Not sure where they ended up, but given that the rest are still there, what are they doing, and if they are there to worship God, then why create humans that have been nothing short of a pain in the ass-paragus?
 
David777 said:
IMO, ancient UIEs likely practice direct panspermia of DNA life on all the nearby rare worlds on suitable liquid water zone planets capable of lasting billions of years without nearby supernova. But as noted, due to the near infinite paths of possible embryology cell division, it would be virtually impossible for identical development to occur beyond the simplest lifeforms.

That noted, it is true that some of the general forms of life successful on Earth due to the nature of gravity, mineralogy, atmospheres, geology if similar, are likely to result in similar niche general forms of life. So other worlds like Earth may have fish like life that eventually also left oceans as amphibians and then evolved into a great range of creatures like here. There would be herb-like life and tree-like life that might evolve monkey-like life eventually evolving appendages with hands etc. So yes, even monkeys like us. But all the internal structures would vary immensely due to random paths. On some worlds, a flying bird-like lifeform might end up as the first tool using intelligent creatures and that may be what God's Angels are.

Evidence of possible direct panspermia is the unlikely if purely natural, Cambrian Explosion of greatly varied lifeforms that oddly was never repeated. Like aliens plunked down a bunch of weird types from other worlds, only a few of many then dominated. Octopus were one of those.
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I lack the expertise to take a definitive stance on the panspermia theory or the implications of the Cambrian Explosion on our present condition. The evidence remains inconclusive. However, I harbor concerns that humanity may be regressing rather than advancing, as overpopulation and pollution take their toll on our planet. We are witnessing an alarming increase in extinctions. Many might scoff at this notion, particularly regarding the vanishing bees, or the shrinking fish supplies from the oceans, or the reduction in forests, but I fear the delicate web of life is more fragile than we realize. It remains uncertain which domino could ultimately trigger a catastrophic collapse.
 
David777 said:
IMO, ancient UIEs likely practice direct panspermia of DNA life on all the nearby rare worlds on suitable liquid water zone planets capable of lasting billions of years without nearby supernova. But as noted, due to the near infinite paths of possible embryology cell division, it would be virtually impossible for identical development to occur beyond the simplest lifeforms.

That noted, it is true that some of the general forms of life successful on Earth due to the nature of gravity, mineralogy, atmospheres, geology if similar, are likely to result in similar niche general forms of life. So other worlds like Earth may have fish like life that eventually also left oceans as amphibians and then evolved into a great range of creatures like here. There would be herb-like life and tree-like life that might evolve monkey-like life eventually evolving appendages with hands etc. So yes, even monkeys like us. But all the internal structures would vary immensely due to random paths. On some worlds, a flying bird-like lifeform might end up as the first tool using intelligent creatures and that may be what God's Angels are.

Evidence of possible direct panspermia is the unlikely if purely natural, Cambrian Explosion of greatly varied lifeforms that oddly was never repeated. Like aliens plunked down a bunch of weird types from other worlds, only a few of many then dominated. Octopus were one of those.
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How did the very first "living" thing (amoeba?) come about? How did the planets come about? How did the galaxies come about? All out of nothing?! Did Steven Hawkings have the answer?
 
Rich said:
To my mind, the notion of an accidental emergence of the universe appears as plausible as the theory of divine creation, with (the lack of) evidence seeming to equally support both paradigms. The concepts of heaven and hell, however, strike me as inconsistent with the benevolent nature attributed to God—a deity described as loving and compassionate. It is difficult to reconcile the idea of such a being condemning a nonbeliever to an eternity of torment in a fiery, sulfurous inferno. The belief that consuming meat on a Friday could lead to such a grotesque and dire fate seems incongruous with the notion of a merciful and forgiving God.
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I don't see any point in God sending any unrepentant, nonbeliever of Jesus and His being tormented in place of us for our sins, having taken them all upon himself, condemning any nonbeliever to an eternity of torment in a fiery, sulfuros inferno. But condemned to eternal death, (consumed by fire?) and gone as though never having existed,
 
Rakaia said:
As the old joke said, we have some good news and some bad news.
First the good news, we've proved God exists.
The bad news is that she's black.
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Someone racist/ignorant back then might think it a clever, funny "joke". It wasn't, and still is not funny, just ignorant. We all have our own ideas of what we think is funny. You don't think is funny what I think is funny, does not mean you don't have a good sense of humor.
 
Elsie said:
I don't see any point in God sending any unrepentant, nonbeliever of Jesus and His being tormented in place of us for our sins, having taken them all upon himself, condemning any nonbeliever to an eternity of torment in a fiery, sulfuros inferno. But condemned to eternal death, (consumed by fire?) and gone as though never having existed,
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I'm simply referring to what I was taught in catholic grade school.
 
Elsie said:
How did the very first "living" thing (amoeba?) come about? How did the planets come about? How did the galaxies come about? All out of nothing?! Did Steven Hawkings have the answer?
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I believe the original purpose of our discussion was to determine his place of residence, rather than delve into the origins of everything. However, the conversation has veered slightly toward the topic of creation. My stance, which remains unchanged, is that we lack sufficient information to form an informed conclusion. While I wholeheartedly respect your belief that God created everything, I personally find that perspective implausible, despite its widespread acceptance. My intention in this thread is not to challenge anyone's beliefs.
 
Rich said:
I believe the original purpose of our discussion was to determine his place of residence, rather than delve into the origins of everything. However, the conversation has veered slightly toward the topic of creation. My stance, which remains unchanged, is that we lack sufficient information to form an informed conclusion. While I wholeheartedly respect your belief that God created everything, I personally find that perspective implausible, despite its widespread acceptance. My intention in this thread is not to challenge anyone's beliefs.
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I was thinking why go through delving into where is His place of residence? if there is no He in the first place.?
"...we lack sufficient information to form an informed conclusion..." Right. It's a question looking for answers that will go on being sought, but a sufficient answer will likely never be found. IMO.
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Elsie said:
How did the very first "living" thing (amoeba?) come about? How did the planets come about? How did the galaxies come about? All out of nothing?! Did Steven Hawkings have the answer?
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As a newcomer to this board, you need to search on what I've clearly posted in the past about these subjects that have arisen numbers of times. I won't repost every time someone new on this board asks the same questions I've already posted earlier. After bothering to search so, yes I'll respond with my science based speculations if a question goes beyond what I've already related.
 
Rich said:
...However, I harbor concerns that humanity may be regressing rather than advancing, as overpopulation and pollution take their toll on our planet. We are witnessing an alarming increase in extinctions. Many might scoff at this notion, particularly regarding the vanishing bees, or the shrinking fish supplies from the oceans, or the reduction in forests, but I fear the delicate web of life is more fragile than we realize. It remains uncertain which domino could ultimately trigger a catastrophic collapse.
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Indeed that has been my perspective for decades now. A primary reason I often criticize our endless Western capitalism without adequate guidance for the sake of free and constructive human societies versus dominant wealth and power. Likewise believe there are way too many of we Earth monkeys on the planet that could otherwise with intelligent guidance be a relative paradise within our vast Universe.

 
David777 said:
Indeed that has been my perspective for decades now. A primary reason I often criticize our endless Western capitalism without adequate guidance for the sake of free and constructive human societies versus dominant wealth and power. Likewise believe there are way too many of we Earth monkeys on the planet that could otherwise with intelligent guidance be a relative paradise within our vast Universe.

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We are on the same page on this topic. What we're doing to the planet for profit is horrifying.
 
Elsie said:
I was thinking why go through delving into where is His place of residence? if there is no He in the first place.?
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When I began the thread, it was to ask the question, where do you believe God lives. Obviously, if you don't believe in such, then the question is largely irrelevant with regard to you. If you do believe in a God, then where do you believe he lives. Is it in a heavenly dwelling (If so, then where), or in your mind (If so, where), or in another dimension that somehow interacts with ours.

If you believe that God is omnipresent, then do you believe he lives in the mind of evil people as well as the good? If not, then he is not omnipresent, but selective, and you must also believe he exists in spiritual form, and not in a designated place. So the question is, if you believe in a God, where specifically do you believe he exists.

If you believe he exists in the hearts (Minds) of believers, then where in the brain (A collection of neurons, a thought, or a locality in the brain)? How does a spirit live in the brain? Perhaps it might exist as energy that flows through your entire body. Usually a vague answer means "I'm not sure", which is OK if you're really not sure.

Beliefs aren't facts, but it's still OK to have them, as long as we know the difference.
 
David777 said:
As a newcomer to this board, you need to search on what I've clearly posted in the past about these subjects that have arisen numbers of times. I won't repost every time someone new on this board asks the same questions I've already posted earlier. After bothering to search so, yes I'll respond with my science based speculations if a question goes beyond what I've already related.
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Sorry. I have not checked past comments on the subject. I know from experience how annoying it can be to receive the same ol' same ol' questions on a subject that has been long past brought up and to which has already been explained. Thankyou.
 

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