Where does God live?

MarkD said:
Uh huh.



So you just want to have a discussion in which everyone concedes at the start that the only possible meaning for anyone who understands God to dwell in their heart is to first to recognize it must be really in the grey matter.

So you don’t want to argue over whether God exists. You’d prefer to have a discussion in which everyone agrees to accept the postulates of your personal opinion. Maybe you should just discuss it with yourself?
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It is clear from your response that you don't understand what I wrote. I'm not asking anyone to concede any postulates. I said "If God lives in the heart, do you mean the mind, or brain"? I also asked: "When you say God lives in your heart, do you mean he is a disembodied entity that just floats around in your body"? I am asking anyone who believes it to explain exactly what they mean when they say he lives in their heart. If they can't expand on that, or they choose not to, then fine.

In addition, I am not asking anyone to accept anything I believe. That's not my purpose for asking the question. Whether you believe that or not is up to you, but it is the truth.
 

I came across a way back USA statement about the USA and GOD - It simply stated emblazoned "One Nation Under God"? - the conundrum these days of course must be "which God?" surely?
 
Rich said:
I regret to inform you that I must decline your invitation to leave. "Why here?" You ask, it's because this space fosters intelligent conversation, with many individuals who have a penchant for science and seek definitive explanations for phenomena they may not fully comprehend.
If this discussion about "Where does God live" offends or disturbs you, perhaps it is you in the wrong place. Although, I don't think anyone has demeaned you or invited you to leave simply because they have a different point of view than yours.
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There is nothing scientific about belief in God. It defies numbers. It defies , so called rational conversation.
Basically I am saying that you can't get there from where you are.
Nothing will ever add up, no matter how much you try.
Here is the bottom, crazy thought. Close your eyes, call to God, tell him you don't know why your doing this, you doubt but you have reached out to him and just go about your days.
Write me if life gets crazy.
bob
 
there have been numerous 'stories' 'real life accounts' shared about meeting God/Christ on a mountain? Here is one such account - I personally found this credible ; lucid and non-emotional in many ways? None emotional from the presenters view point perhaps or as much as could be?

 
rbtvgo said:
This is all ridiculousness. You will care when it is your time. You will wonder.
In the mean time you offer opinions, you pontificate..................you have it all figured out, RIGHT!
You all write to offer opinions, suggestions, beliefs, ..........................but you don't know, so that's why your here.
There are other forums where you can connect. Why this one. Why be here. Go else where, More satisfying, more attuned to your beliefs.
Why here?
Because you don't know AND you want to know.

You really want to know? simple.......close your eyes, clear you mind and call to God. No appropriate words. Just call to him.

I don't have your answers. I don't have the solution. I do know that without Gods voice, everyday, I would be lost. This doesn't help you, I know.
It is my refuge, however, and he has not failed me. I could not live life any other way.

bob
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I'll buy that one for sure!!
 
U either believe in your higher power and trust that it will guide you,
give you confidence, Relive some sorrow, you carry on and make great
idear's work or you don't ! Ones acceptance of a Heaven or Hell can be
debated all day.

What you want to believe about other testimonies is yours.

________________
There are tons of priests out there to play with lil boys.
 
ps: I posted this before reading the one above - SNAP -considering all that's been said and done - there are those who believe and those who cannot for whatever reason - so be it; that seems to be where the soccer/rugby/cricket field and all the other fields lay atm?? pick your game and field and follow their rules and continue?
 
rbtvgo said:
Here is the bottom, crazy thought. Close your eyes, call to God, tell him you don't know why your doing this, you doubt but you have reached out to him and just go about your days.
Write me if life gets crazy.
bob
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I'm not certain why you would think that I doubt why I'm doing this. By "this" I'm guessing you mean siding with science rather than superstition. Let me know. Regardless, I genuinely appreciate your offer to write. I hold no ill will and have no intention of disparaging your faith. I always welcome opportunities to better understand others' perspectives.
 
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rbtvgo said:
This is all ridiculousness. You will care when it is your time. You will wonder.
In the mean time you offer opinions, you pontificate..................you have it all figured out, RIGHT!
You all write to offer opinions, suggestions, beliefs, ..........................but you don't know, so that's why your here.
There are other forums where you can connect. Why this one. Why be here. Go else where, More satisfying, more attuned to your beliefs.
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This sounds like you might be describing yourself. Granted, I have met atheists who act like they have it all figured out, but they are vastly outnumbered by theists who act like they have it all figured out. Read your own posts and think about how your criticism also may apply to yourself. And then stop and see if you can differentiate what you believe from what you know.
 
Rich said:
I'm not certain why you would think that I doubt why I'm doing this. By "this" I'm guessing you mean siding with science rather than superstition. Let me know. Regardless, I genuinely appreciate your offer to write. I hold no ill will and have no intention of disparaging your faith. I always welcome opportunities to better understand others' perspectives.
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It's just that we're not as smart as we think we are. Once upon a time the lobotomy was considered science and once upon a time harnessed electricity seemed like black magic.
 
I'm curious about all of the things being pieced together in archeology, predating "modern" religions by many millennia. Early writings long predating "the beginning" that tell almost the same stories, just with very different dates, names, places, and minor details.

"Noah and the Flood" is a good marker for such since the broad-brush story is quite recognizable: there is always rising sin among mankind, a disappointed god, a chosen man to build an ark, animals and his family loaded aboard, ark ends up on a mountaintop once the waters recede, etc. So far three different "generations" of the story in the middle east are documented in writings, each one clearly an embellishment on the prior one. If writing existed and was preserved from them we'd probably find another and another.

There is "one god" and yet any number of ranks of other supernatural beings and elevated humans. Many of the "evil" or "mistaken" supposedly having successfully challenged the "one god" and in many cases we're supposed to believe they still exist.

And all of this is from just one small corner of the planet.
 
dilettante said:
I'm curious about all of the things being pieced together in archeology, predating "modern" religions by many millennia. Early writings long predating "the beginning" that tell almost the same stories, just with very different dates, names, places, and minor details.

"Noah and the Flood" is a good marker for such since the broad-brush story is quite recognizable: there is always rising sin among mankind, a disappointed god, a chosen man to build an ark, animals and his family loaded aboard, ark ends up on a mountaintop once the waters recede, etc. So far three different "generations" of the story in the middle east are documented in writings, each one clearly an embellishment on the prior one. If writing existed and was preserved from them we'd probably find another and another.

There is "one god" and yet any number of ranks of other supernatural beings and elevated humans. Many of the "evil" or "mistaken" supposedly having successfully challenged the "one god" and in many cases we're supposed to believe they still exist.

And all of this is from just one small corner of the planet.
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Other stories are quite similar too. Moses spent his younger years in Egypt where he was exposed to these earlier stories (Including Adam and Eve - only it was Atum in the original Egyptian story), and he was also familiar with the Book Of The Dead, which appears to outline the Ten Commandments. If Moses is the author of the first 5 books of the Bible, it's very possible he wrote what he learned.

The figure of the devil (Satan) also appears to have come from earlier concepts and seems to be plagiarism. We will likely never know for certain, but the similarities are uncanny and likely are revised mythology. Everyone will have to reach their own conclusions about how these stories originated.
 
. The question where does God live pretty much depends on using the bible as the source for the purpose of this discussion. The bible states there is but one God. IMO God is whatever a person believes one to be. Belief is personal to each individual so there is no right or wrong . Given the massive list that exceeds the paragraph limit I chose to post only the beginning & recognize the author. If even a tiny bit interested scroll down to the input by This list was generated by
Nev Anderson
Lives in Wellington, New Zealand
https://atheismnow.quora.com/How-ma...d-since-the-dawn-of-humanity-of-all-religions

“How many 'gods' have been recorded since the dawn of humanity? (of all religions)”

Humanity can only record the gods whose symbol, or imagery has survived, been discovered and recognised as a god figure.

Thus the list is comparatively small compared to the number lost to time.

Here is a starter list, feel free to add any you know that are not represented:

A, Adad, Adapa, Adrammelech, Aeon, Agasaya, Aglibol, Ahriman, Ahura Mazda, Ahurani, Ai-ada, Al-Lat, Aja, Aka, Alalu, Al-Lat, Amm, Al-Uzza (El-'Ozza or Han-Uzzai), An, Anahita, Anath (Anat), Anatu, Anbay, Anshar, Anu, Anunitu, An-Zu, Apsu, Aqhat,

Proof one way or another isn't possible so for me it comes down to whatever a person believes is in that persons mind.
 
Knight said:
. The question where does God live pretty much depends on using the bible as the source for the purpose of this discussion. The bible states there is but one God. IMO God is whatever a person believes one to be. Belief is personal to each individual so there is no right or wrong . Given the massive list that exceeds the paragraph limit I chose to post only the beginning & recognize the author. If even a tiny bit interested scroll down to the input by This list was generated by
Nev Anderson
Lives in Wellington, New Zealand
https://atheismnow.quora.com/How-ma...d-since-the-dawn-of-humanity-of-all-religions

“How many 'gods' have been recorded since the dawn of humanity? (of all religions)”

Humanity can only record the gods whose symbol, or imagery has survived, been discovered and recognised as a god figure.

Thus the list is comparatively small compared to the number lost to time.

Here is a starter list, feel free to add any you know that are not represented:

A, Adad, Adapa, Adrammelech, Aeon, Agasaya, Aglibol, Ahriman, Ahura Mazda, Ahurani, Ai-ada, Al-Lat, Aja, Aka, Alalu, Al-Lat, Amm, Al-Uzza (El-'Ozza or Han-Uzzai), An, Anahita, Anath (Anat), Anatu, Anbay, Anshar, Anu, Anunitu, An-Zu, Apsu, Aqhat,

Proof one way or another isn't possible so for me it comes down to whatever a person believes is in that persons mind.
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Actually, my question is intended to be independent of the Bible for this discussion. Whatever you conceive God to be, and whatever your concept is of that God, where does it reside? There have been hundreds of Gods imagined, created, and believed in, but often not much thought about where they are. If in heaven, then where is it?

If it is an omnipresent spirit, then it is everywhere (Including in the mind of non-believers). If it is only present in believers, then it is not omnipresent. If it is not part of the brain, then how does it reside there? Just questions to see what others believe.
 
bobcat said:
Actually, my question is intended to be independent of the Bible for this discussion. Whatever you conceive God to be, and whatever your concept is of that God, where does it reside? There have been hundreds of Gods imagined, created, and believed in, but often not much thought about where they are. If in heaven, then where is it?

If it is an omnipresent spirit, then it is everywhere (Including in the mind of non-believers). If it is only present in believers, then it is not omnipresent. If it is not part of the brain, then how does it reside there? Just questions to see what others believe.
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My intent was about the responses that were generated by others IMO were based on the bible, reducing the thinking to only one source for a belief. Not your intent but that is my perception on how responses were posted. That source I posted explains that more than one God is/or was a belief.
 
The People have to believe in something, I mean here we are at the edge
of deep water with the army in hot pursuit. We's a gonna die!
All them's Chariots are down there somewhere along with long swords and spears.
Think the fortune in Value, retrieval and resale $$$ ... :coffee: ...
 
gruntlabor said:
It's just that we're not as smart as we think we are. Once upon a time the lobotomy was considered science and once upon a time harnessed electricity seemed like black magic.
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I don't think we're smart at all. We pollute our planet, wage wars, and discriminate against anything that deviates from our own norms. While science doesn't always hit the mark, it has undoubtedly addressed numerous challenges over the years and brought forth some remarkable innovations. However, as Arthur C. Clarke famously observed, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Perhaps this is why some people believe things that seem to be impossible.
 
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Come now people, the human race isn't completely idiotic.

Modern humans appeared 190,000 years ago, and since then we've moved from caves to elaborate houses with computers, lights, machinery to make things easier for us. We're flown to the Moon, have rovers on Mars, and have satellites circling above us giving us communication and all kinds of data. Medical research has delivered great advances. In Medieval times the average life span of a male was 31 years. It's more than double that today.

We're smart. We're advanced. We're just not smart enough.
 
God?..........damn, that is always a tough one because there are so many ideas and beliefs. Brought up going to a Presbyterian church. Loved the singing and social part. And then one day my girlfriend went away (I was 16 deeply in love) and was devastated and lost. I would walk up to that small Presbyterian church at 1am go in and pray. Pray for her, for me and for comfort.

After losing her father at a young age and raised by an alcoholic mom in a large family she went on to be a Veterinarian and very successful. We are still good friends. And my life? It got much better. So I figured there was something to this praying thing to a God I cannot see. So I pray to this day for my family and friends each night.......It makes me feel less alone in this world..... and that maybe.....just maybe there is a higher power that can help........btw I am a heathen by Christian standards......my God seems to be more of the type native Americans believe in......
 

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