Where does God live?

VaughanJB said:
Oh, I'm going to be dying and returning to the soil. My life will be done. I will no longer exist in any form. Everything points toward this. It would be nice to think otherwise, but I'm simply not that important.
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I'm no scientist but isn't it a fact that nothing is destroyed, it simply takes another form? Our bodies are just a vehicle for our souls. The body reverts to its components and the soul leaves to continue its existence elsewhere.
 

Pepper said:
No, we Jews are the CHOOSING people as Abraham CHOSE. Not chosen, but choosing.
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Sorry, I was just stating what the Bible says.
Personally, I think they may have had other motives for writing it, but that's just a suspicion.

Deuteronomy 7:6
For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.
 

Lavinia said:
I'm no scientist but isn't it a fact that nothing is destroyed, it simply takes another form? Our bodies are just a vehicle for our souls. The body reverts to its components and the soul leaves to continue its existence elsewhere.
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Matter and energy, the components of the universe cannot be destroyed, at least as far as we know. The soul is a human construct with a logically debated existence. If it does not exist as something other than a human construct, it doesn't qualify as something than cannot be destroyed. You can't destroy something that does not exist.

For example:
Nothing that exists can be destroyed
Unicorns exist
Therefore unicorns cannot be destroyed
 
For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:6

And thy servant is in the midst of thy people which thou hast chosen, a great people, that cannot be numbered nor counted for multitude. 1 Kings 3:8
 
bobcat said:
Just to clarify, are you saying that (Assuming there is some sort of deity) whatever this "God" is, it is not omniscient?
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No, I don't think I'm necessarily saying that. 'Perfect' and 'omniscient' (all-knowing) are two different things.
Anything I say is just my momentary opinion. Maybe the term 'omniscient' is used loosely? Or maybe God's 'mistakes' are actually errors in our own understanding?
My husband used to tell the kids, 'I know what you're up to before you even think it.' Maybe that's what God meant?
Thank you for this thread, Bobcat! Very interesting, I think. I almost missed out on it because the answer to your question seemed obvious.
And thank you for letting us ramble.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:6

And thy servant is in the midst of thy people which thou hast chosen, a great people, that cannot be numbered nor counted for multitude. 1 Kings 3:8
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Repeating what Jews and rabbis say, that god offered himself before and was discarded by those approached, until Avram was willing to choose. Letting you in one intimate Jew Gossip here, be thankful. :ROFLMAO:
 
Pepper said:
Repeating what Jews and rabbis say, that god offered himself before and was discarded by those approached, until Avram was willing to choose. Letting you in one intimate Jew Gossip here, be thankful. :ROFLMAO:
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Man has the right to choose, Pepper, as we both know. Otherwise, I don't follow you.
 
spectratg said:
@Capt Lightning said: “we created 'god' to explain things we don't yet understand.” What a profound statement! Why would a perfect god create imperfect human beings if we are made in his image and likeness? Why would we have to “guess” about his existence (as on this Senior Forums thread) rather than making it blatantly obvious? As Spock said: “Your god creates faulty human beings, and then blames them for his own mistakes. He’s a pretty poor excuse for a supreme being.”
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Yes, but none of your excellent points negate His existence.
 
gruntlabor said:
Yes, but none of your excellent points negate His existence.
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I was on my own personal religious quest for 50 years, but never once even considered negating his existence (you can't prove a negative). The problem was that I could not prove his existence. It was a great relief when I resolved that I never could. Knowing it in your heart or having found the proof in the Bible is not proof. Although, it may be good enough for some.
 
JustDave said:
I was on my own personal religious quest for 50 years, but never once even considered negating his existence (you can't prove a negative). The problem was that I could not prove his existence. It was a great relief when I resolved that I never could. Knowing it in your heart or having found the proof in the Bible is not proof. Although, it may be good enough for some.
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You can't prove a positive either, you can only prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.
I hope someday, if not now, we can prove, through logic/reason/introspection/study/understanding beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
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@bobcat has done a reasonably good job guiding his thread as OP. But much posted IMO has been science nonsense with boringly repeated similar questions by different members on this now epically long thread on page 22. Of course, those just now responding obviously never read earlier posts because the thread has become too long.

And as I emphatically noted, what most people think about their version of god is NOT Bible scripture based but rather the imaginative creations of supposed religious authorities, for self serving denomination agendas, most during this last millennium and NOT during the era in which the New Testament was written. Especially all the Omnipotence, Omniscience, Oomnipresence, dogma additions that are NOWHERE in Bible scripture beyond vague "Almighty" Hebrew words.

The other utter nonsense is based on self serving inerrancy narratives, that all scripture is inspired and true because they think God has always been guiding us. Even almost all scholars don't believe in inerrancy though denominations for 2 millennium have worked to hide that. But now in the Internet era that LIE is exposed to any that bother to simply web search.

Where does God live?

...I've made clear on several threads, I think the inerrant narratives on Bible scripture are nonsense. Also that OOO narratives are science nonsense. But that doesn't mean I don't expect SOME scripture might have been inspired or at least mostly so. Of the Gospels, I think John was inspired for a good reason.

As I've previously related, no one is whispering into my mind so all I can do is speculate as someone that has merely read much, thus take my inputs as such. I do choose to believe Jesus and God do exist but not as OOO entities but rather as ancient UIEs.

Despite the length of this thread, not a single member has posted any Bible scripture about where (the Christian) God is or what God is. Instead they have vaguely related non-scriptural religious dogmas based on supposedly inspired religious authorities. Authorities that between denominations often don't agree that says much about the illogic of all being inspired.

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Google AI Overview on the question "scholars don't believe in inerrancy"

This statement is generally accurate; most biblical scholars do not subscribe to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy, which claims the Bible is completely without error in every detail, including historical and scientific accounts; they often argue that the Bible contains errors or inconsistencies that are incompatible with a strictly literal interpretation due to the historical context and literary forms used in the text.
 
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Lavinia said:
I'm no scientist but isn't it a fact that nothing is destroyed, it simply takes another form? Our bodies are just a vehicle for our souls. The body reverts to its components and the soul leaves to continue its existence elsewhere.
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We're energy. We're atoms. We will continue in that form. But you use the word "soul", and I don't accept such a thing exists. What is a soul? What is it made up of? How can we test to prove it exists?
 
Others won't be able to provide a science based answer but this person can and has.

Neil & Anil Seth Discuss Consciousness (and AI) in the Universe

Useful electromagnetic brain more in depth explanations that reflects how it is a very active part of current neuroscience research. Although for decades, HOT, GWT, IIT, circuit-like structure theories of consciousness and research had dominated, that is dramatically changing now given MEG and fMRI machines that now show how EMC brain wave fields permeate whole brain tissues from primitive neochord animals to humans. And those fields are what I expect was actually communicated to primitive humans as "spirit" and into which I personally choose to hope, eternal life is possible through Jesus...

And NO we humans have been DENIED certain proof that he exists because he wisely has hidden that from non-believers and evil doers.

Where does God live?

No. And no one will be able to prove he didn't. Sorry, none of us gets to have "certainty". A great way to separate the wheat from the chaff. Well done God!...
 
Pepper said:
Tell me, please! Love where your mind goes. Spill, please bobby.
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Ha ha. My mind is not unlike a wandering child. always asking random questions, and then turning around and questioning the answers.
As for my suspicions, that's all they are. It's been quite some time since I read up on the historical context concerning the nation of Israel, but even for Theologians, Archeologists, and Historians, it is a patchwork quilt with no pattern, so it is best guesses in many cases.

My memory is a bit rusty on it, but it seems that the Israelites originally came from the Canaan area, and like many there, they had multiple Gods, and even in Egypt, they were exposed to others. This seems to have continued after returning to Canaan, and even into captivity in Babylon, although they were beginning to whittle their beliefs down to one single God, and that's when most of the early writings of the Bible materialized.

My suspicious are that they needed to re-establish themselves, and re-build what was destroyed. Claiming to be God's chosen ones united their people, and served to distinguish them as a relevant nation. It seems to work. Some of the figures (Abraham and Moses may be little more than literary inventions since no extra-biblical references exist).

At any rate, I'm pretty much in the dark about it all, but it never really made any sense to me that if there was a fair and just God, that he would have a chosen people, especially many who weren't very obedient. People are all different. Just because a person is of a certain ethnicity doesn't mean they will make good disciples. Besides, is the child of a chosen and a non-chosen just half-chosen. I don't know. Just unanswered questions like many others.
 
A volcanic eruptions killing most all human types. → 1200 chosen breeding pairs left in
South Africa. then 100,000. Ice melted, humans exploded across the earth again. Moses
led a 600,000 man army out of Egypt, he was considered a military commander also.
They all wondered around for some years. Maybe they made a few enemies. David
fought it out. People believed the Catholic faith. Faith expanded, Bible was written.
Bible reprinted, re-defined & God smiled on us. Is he scowling some now?

The Jews still smite Jesus? Moslems call it Mohammed?

A happy, jealousy of triumvirates in power. Seems familiar now !
I still think he lives in a soft sided black box.
 
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Lavinia said:
I'm no scientist but isn't it a fact that nothing is destroyed, it simply takes another form? Our bodies are just a vehicle for our souls. The body reverts to its components and the soul leaves to continue its existence elsewhere.
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nicely put - so sublime
 
Lavinia said:
I'm no scientist but isn't it a fact that nothing is destroyed, it simply takes another form? Our bodies are just a vehicle for our souls. The body reverts to its components and the soul leaves to continue its existence elsewhere.
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I can follow the first sentence as fact, but the second one and conclusion seem to be a leap. It would be interesting to learn how you arrived at that. Perhaps a definition of a soul would help.
 
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