Where does God live?

David777 said:
Google AI Overview on the question "scholars don't believe in inerrancy"

This statement is generally accurate; most biblical scholars do not subscribe to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy, which claims the Bible is completely without error in every detail, including historical and scientific accounts; they often argue that the Bible contains errors or inconsistencies that are incompatible with a strictly literal interpretation due to the historical context and literary forms used in the text.
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I also think that the idea that scripture is the "inerrant, infallible word of God" is a nonsense because it does not allow different insights to emerge. It encourages dogmatism and ignores the fact that the old and new testaments are a collection of books composed by different people or sects with different purposes. Job is essentially a debate about the reason for human suffering. Song of Songs is a book of love poems or letters. The NT gospels chronicle the ministry of Jesus, viewing it from different perspectives and tailored for different audiences. Paul's epistles were written to instruct and encourage newly formed, but scattered, christian communities. Different purposes for different times and different audiences. Inspired, yes, but inerrant and every word dictated by God? A rather irrational conclusion.
 
Warrigal said:
I also think that the idea that scripture is the "inerrant, infallible word of God" is a nonsense because it does not allow different insights to emerge. It encourages dogmatism and ignores the fact that the old and new testaments are a collection of books composed by different people or sects with different purposes. Job is essentially a debate about the reason for human suffering. Song of Songs is a book of love poems or letters. The NT gospels chronicle the ministry of Jesus, viewing it from different perspectives and tailored for different audiences. Paul's epistles were written to instruct and encourage newly formed, but scattered, christian communities. Different purposes for different times and different audiences. Inspired, yes, but inerrant and every word dictated by God? A rather irrational conclusion.
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Nice post I like its spots the word I'm lookin for logic - but is God logic - well not sure does he need to be? When I read the OT books I can clearly feel his over-arching hand guiding and chastizing often too even his own chosen people? and where do you think all or love comes from to write poems songs and letters if not originally from God? Paul was staunchly first instructed and guided from a more traditional God and then met his son on a road somewher and what an epiphany that was!! come come Warri can't you see the bigger picture ? - love from a christian brother!
 

Joey said:
Paul was staunchly first instructed and guided from a more traditional God and then met his son on a road somewher and what an epiphany that was!! come come Warri can't you see the bigger picture ? - love from a christian brother!
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Saul is a used cart con man. His direct line to Jesus, IMO Irrelevant due to mental incapacity.
 
papa tiger said:
In his first forty years, Moses accomplished a great deal. The Jewish historian Josephus says that as its general, he led Egypt's army into Ethiopia, where he took an Ethiopian wife to secure peace with the Ethiopians rather than put them to the edge of the sword.

How Moses Made War with the Ethiopians.

Lots of hanky panky there for sure! Sure questions are welcome here. What else is there! Modern areas are different now.
Moses Etheopian wife - Bing Exodus
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Interesting read from Josephus. I had not seen this account before. I have read Josephus' account of the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans. A very graphic account indeed.
 
Joey said:
come come Warri can't you see the bigger picture ? - love from a christian brother!
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Yes, I can see a bigger picture. I think we are looking at different parts of the same mosaic thinking that we know everything about the whole. I have read quite a lot, but it is what I have experienced that has taught me the most important lessons.
 
I think we should pause and give a thought that God or Christ or even the HS does never claim to control us with a tightly held first - I see it more as a guidance technique - "give them a few starter tips maybe and then push them off on their quests and assist where we can - after all if you recall in the being of the OT at the conception of creating humans one of the dictates from God was " I give you a free spirit" - he knew what would happen perhaps but it was after all an experiment? like the dinosaur era which had to killed off with a meteorite?
 
Joey said:
after all if you recall in the being of the OT at the conception of creating humans one of the dictates from God was " I give you a free spirit" - he knew what would happen perhaps but it was after all an experiment? like the dinosaur era which had to killed off with a meteorite?
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When my son was four he wrote a book, in pictures, which I still have. In it, the God figure was a lonely boy seeking company which he had to create, in a bottle of his creation. Dinosaurs were fun at first, but ultimately boring to the boy who destroyed them to create people---------much more interesting to ease the pain of the boy being ALONE.
 
Joey said:
did he make tents as a sideline to priesthood duties?
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Saul/Paul was never a Jewish priest. He was your ordinary everyday zealot and a pharisee until he became a christian leader and rival of Peter (the fisherman). He did support himself at times by making tents but mostly, like Jesus, he relied on contributions from his followers. @Pepper, is this what you have been referring to when you imply that he was a conman?
 
I don't know where we're goin with this but it is fun heh - Gods ; little boys 'dinosaurs : creations ; people - where do we get our vivid imaginations from - sound almost holy?
 
Warrigal said:
Saul/Paul was never a Jewish priest. He was your ordinary everyday zealot and a pharisee until he became a christian leader and rival of Peter (the fisherman). He did support himself at times by making tents but mostly, like Jesus, he relied on contributions from his followers. @Pepper, is this what you have been referring to when you imply that he was a conman?
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He was a SALESMAN. He sold you a load. Doesn't matter if he sold tents, or took bribes. He was a Salesman. He sold the bridge in Brooklyn before there was a Brooklyn.
 
Paul taught hundreds of people about God. This is where he taught that God lived. In 1 Corinthians 6:19, he writes, "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God?" This indicates that believers are the dwelling place of God through the Holy Spirit. Additionally, in Ephesians 2:22, he describes the church as "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord; and in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit."

Does that sound like a sales pitch?. You can have God living right there is your heart. Plus we throw in the Holy Spirit to be with you always. Quite a deal. All you have to do is "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Whatever the Blah's, the better the outcome. God always with you now, living within your body. This is very much like the present "Christian" doctrine for most all the churches.
 
Pepper said:
Didn't have to work, but it did, and took all the "known" Western world with it. The stamp of Judaism is forever on Western Civilization. Taking hold of the Jews is irrelevant; taking hold of everyone else is the marvel.
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Yes, people love good stories. There are many classics still alive and well today.
 
Pepper said:
You misunderstand my point completely. And yes, it is a pitch based on Saul's own ego. Take it or leave it.

Saul The Dave Clark Five compared to Beatles. A knockoff.
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What did I misunderstand? You claim he was a great salesman. He sold Jesus to thousands of people. He wasn't even selling the good Jesus, but some knock off. The story that he tells of Jesus, is just one that attracted believers.
 

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