Nasty, bizarre high school sports team hazing/kidnapping

hollydolly said:
Hazing has been going on for a very long time in schools and universities....
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I'm sure. It just doesn't seem to happen (at least not to this degree) near where I live. I don't even remember recent reports like this from the Vancouver Metropolitan Area.

Maybe it still happens frequently where you live, Holly.🤔
 

JBR said:
I'm sure. It just doesn't seem to happen (at least not to this degree) near where I live. I don't even remember recent reports like this from the Vancouver Metropolitan Area.

Maybe it still happens frequently where you live, Holly.🤔
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As far as I'm aware it doesn't happen in the school where I live but I've certainly read about it online ...
 
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hearlady said:
I just heard something about Jon Hamm ( dreamy American actor 😍) being called out for being involved in a disturbing hazing incident in college. Say it ain't so......😳
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It's very true..I don't know who he is as an actor... but it seems he was a real piece of work at college and lead a pack of other lads who hazed people, and one particuallr person has mental and physcal scars to this day because of this guy..it's been all over the media for the last week
 
He starred in a TV series called Mad Men (about the advertising business in the 60s) from 2007 until 2015.
 
Yes, I have been involved in many of these types of hazings and initiations.

Initiations using hazing was normally used by university fraternities if a student wanted to join. Some of these hazings were very dangerous. One such night, I was called to the hospital and the head if the ER told me a kid was brought in by other kids in a van and dropped off and quickly drove away. The kid drank a full bottle of Coke without taking a breath and then swallowed 2 Alka-Seltzer tablets. The kid nearly died from the amount of carbon dioxide gas the ingredients formed. After that night, the University president stopped frat house initiations and hazings. The hospital cameras picked up the license plate of the van and the kids were all charged as adults.

In high school, the football team would have all the new players each year have to expose themselves to a gag. This one year, they lined up the new guys and made them run though a line of about 20 older players that held a board and would hit the new guys on their naked butt. This one year, they were unaware that the one student had asthma and this stunt set off a really bad asthma attack and the young man died. The school was sued and the kids were charged as juveniles. The borough where the high school was located made hazings and initiations in school illegal.

Several universities and colleges here in the U.S. have suspended all hazings.
 
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do they learn t his behaviour from their parents or is it a newly invented monstrosity..?? whatever it is sadist behaviour and practices and needs stopping by hopefully more sensible adults??
 
smiley said:
do they learn t his behaviour from their parents or is it a newly invented monstrosity..?? whatever it is sadist behaviour and practices and needs stopping by hopefully more sensible adults??
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Yes, no doubt about this hazing being psychologically sadistic. Pretty intensely so. I'd guess the Westhill lacrosse team is ruined for a year, and the school's team-sports reputation will probably linger for more than that.
 
I don't think this is an excuse for the wanton degrading and brutal treatment of other students. But this behavior still keeps rearing its head. I wonder if it's the age difference. If you are a high school senior- ages 17-18, the freshman, ages13-14 seem like children. Since underclassmen are on the other side of growth spurts, their size and maturity make them easy targets for devious upperclassmen. ????????
 
In the early 1970s, I worked with someone when his older brother died in a college fraternity hazing incident. The frat brothers drove him to a remote area of the woods at night and dropped him off there. The kid apparently fell, lost his glasses and couldn't find his way to civilization. By the time the frat members fessed up to what happened, it was too late and the kid died from exposure.

Hazing is a terrible practice - can't believe it still goes on.
 
Hazing should have been outlawed eons ago. Enough! It's vital to enact legislation forbidding this behavior and imposing harsh consequences on those who choose to ignore it. There is zero tolerance. The rest of the student population should learn a lesson from the arrest and expulsion of the perpetrators.
 
StarSong said:
In the early 1970s, I worked with someone when his older brother died in a college fraternity hazing incident. The frat brothers drove him to a remote area of the woods at night and dropped him off there. The kid apparently fell, lost his glasses and couldn't find his way to civilization. By the time the frat members fessed up to what happened, it was too late and the kid died from exposure.

Hazing is a terrible practice - can't believe it still goes on.
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I just found a story on his death. I apparently recollected a few of the details wrong, but had the essence correct.

His teenage brother, rather than being angry (at least in front of workmates) was embarrassed that his brother had been victimized. As if this had somehow been a failing on his brother's part.

The three men who did this to him faced up to 6 months in jail and a $500 fine. Misdemeanor hazing charges. I can't find what their ultimate legal fates were. Presumably - and hopefully - there are now stiffer consequences for hazing with deadly consequences.

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Remembering Fred Bronner: Killed by Pierce College fraternity dropoff – Hank Nuwer, Author; Hazing Deaths Database
 
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StarSong said:
I just found a story on his death. I apparently recollected a few of the details wrong, but had the essence correct.

The three med who did this to him faced up to 6 months in jail and a $500 fine. Misdemeanor hazing charges. I can't find what their ultimate legal fates were. Presumably - and hopefully - there are now stiffer consequences for hazing with deadly consequences.

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Remembering Fred Bronner: Killed by Pierce College fraternity dropoff – Hank Nuwer, Author; Hazing Deaths Database
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Seems to me the three frat-boy perps just got slaps on the wrists.
 
hollydolly said:
Hazing has been going on for a very long time in schools and universities....
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Yep. I had two room mates for a while at the University of Florida that were in a fraternity. Delta Tau Delta. The type of hazing that is described in the article was referred to as "Road Tripping". There were all kinds of other ridiculous kinds of hazing of "pledges". Many of them both illegal and/or dangerous. Nothing was ever done about it. It was just considered a part of normal fraternity life.
 
Babs2u said:
He starred in a TV series called Mad Men (about the advertising business in the 60s) from 2007 until 2015.
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aka Don Draper. I read about it last week and Hamm sounds very arrogant.

In the UK, it is known as "beasting".
 

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